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In reply to the discussion: An explanation of why Sanders' comments about Obama were offensive to many African Americans [View all]MLAA
(17,319 posts)210. Sanders comments about President Obama were offensive to this white woman.
The President Obamas combined intelligence, dedication and compassion separate him from every other president of my adulthood. We were so fortunate to have him and Michelle grace the Whitehouse for 8 years. I never once had concerns about his judgement, integrity nor his commitment to do what was right for all Americans.
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EffieBlack
Apr 2018
OP
It is my opinion that Sen. Sanders said exactly what he meant to say. He does not like President
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#362
He always has if you look at what he says...yes he caucuses with us but over the years he has made
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#391
Better Wall Street here with all the good jobs than in China. Our pension is invested in a 401k.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#420
Love me some Dr Reverend Barber myself. BTW, I think he got ordained as Bishop last year.
iluvtennis
Apr 2018
#41
Thank you for this post. I hope those who need to hear this listen and try to understand!
bobbieinok
Apr 2018
#4
Your patience and attitude is amazing. I would not be so patient and reasonable.
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2018
#195
I suggest all the people who immediately look for reasons to attack either Clinton
karynnj
Apr 2018
#268
I think its Sanders who originated this divisiveness by wrongly saying Dems are losing- he is
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#300
Your patience and attitude is amazing. I would not be so patient and reasonable.
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#131
Then maybe he could actually JOIN the party he's trying to bring back to its roots?
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#227
I don't think you get that was the wrong fucking event to go there with those comments
nini
Apr 2018
#359
Bernie has no business criticizing obama or Democratic party given us is not a democrat
onetexan
Apr 2018
#392
The headline of all of the coverage of Sanders appearance is "Sanders calls Dems a failure"
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#40
Uhm, the person in question has constantly attacked the party and it's leaders
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#132
Only two possibilities, deliberate gaslighting, or their obsessive devotion to Sanders has blinded
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#255
We get the other side perfectly well. Its so superficial we couldnt miss it.
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#405
You have every right to your opinion and I would never tell you your opinion on something like this
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#423
I think some of the responses you're talking about were responding to you and others
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#438
I didn't say I was speaking for all African Americans - in fact I explicitly said otherwise
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#32
Your point as you explain it, seems to be defending how you HEARD it. And that is what is important
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2018
#234
But can you at least understand that what you heard was not what he meant?
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2018
#266
My post wasn't about what Bernie may or may not have "meant"- it was about what he SAID and how it
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#279
But what you perceived he meant is vitally important to your position!
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2018
#310
Almost as if I could have bet you $1000 that would happen...and given 5-1 odds
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#139
"but, beyond that reality" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What about that is not being understood ?!
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#113
It's EASY to see the fault in that, if you don't have Bernie-shaped glasses over your eyes.
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#225
Whoa, talk about tone-deaf! Sounds like the audience took this as another Sanders rally
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#144
It is so incredibly disrespectful. There's no doubt that the only reason they were there was to see
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#182
Please note I didn't say he never mentioned Dr. King at all - I said he HARDLY mentioned him
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#286
She is probably only speaking for about 98% of them, so naturally THAT is what
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#142
How is one person's perspective based on their experience any more valid than anyone else's?
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#76
all - obama, sanders, and clinton, as leaders, have continued the biggest political mistake in histo
certainot
Apr 2018
#158
liberals have been ignoring it for 30 years. to fix it digitize talk radio - so it can be read.
certainot
Apr 2018
#435
Sanders will need to attract new voters from somewhere to win the nomination.
TexasTowelie
Apr 2018
#303
Perfect beyond perfect and put to words far more eloquently than I ever could have. You may not
Afromania
Apr 2018
#33
"my 4 decades plus living and working every day in impacted urban communities"
BumRushDaShow
Apr 2018
#60
+1. Spidey sense is an invaluable asset when confronting anonymous internet denizens, and I think..
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2018
#243
So, you assume that any black person who criticized Sanders in the past must have an ulterior motive
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#69
I did too, I can read ... "but" did NOT belong in the statement that Sanders made ...
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#116
Correct, that was the best possible spin. Which still indicates he doesn't belong on the national
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#256
They are either racist, indifferent to his racism, which is racist, or they just
Doodley
Apr 2018
#321
Obama was a brilliant man and President who took office during a tumultuous time in American history
Pepsidog
Apr 2018
#56
Curious how bernie ended up at that event when there are many many far greater than him
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#59
Ignoring everything after the but is a convenient way to ignore the rest of what was said
TCJ70
Apr 2018
#67
Again, you're explaining what he "meant" and ignoring how it was heard by other people who may see
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#92
You mean like interpreting the rest of the comment as "reinforcing the compliment to President Obama
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#107
Yes, he probably would have been criticized for not mention the first black president at an event
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#129
BINGO !!! THAT criticism of the DNC wasn't even needed at that event in context to the
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#120
Eliminating any mention of the first African American president at an MLK commemoration event...
TCJ70
Apr 2018
#143
He can mention the name of the first AA POTUS but not in the unfair negative context
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#152
.... and not needed in that setting !!! The CEO of GM is great but GM sucks is not the type
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#125
RIGHT !!! Damn, they act like we can't read ... But means in contrast to which either
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#122
+1, every time we turn around something negative about the DNC comes out of Sanders mouF
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#146
"He's accomplished a lot in educating people about economic inequities over the past 30 years"
BumRushDaShow
Apr 2018
#222
"Who else has been getting up to 20,000 people to show up to hear him/her speak?" Trump
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#434
There are many reasons for the losses and have nothing to do with Democrats failing.
honest.abe
Apr 2018
#101
Something negative about the DNC that Obama was leader of which wasn't needed
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#127
Sanders comments were also offensive to non-African American supports of Pres. Obama
Gothmog
Apr 2018
#78
***WINNER*** I did not look at your post before posting multiple times his comment at best
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#130
Read the transcript, everyone on the dais failed to explicitly praise Dr. King.
HenryWallace
Apr 2018
#307
The criticism of Sanders here from DU blacks is in context of Sanders consummate bashing of the
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#157
Gerrymandering and voter suppression had NOTHING to do with losses of seats?!!!?
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#278
Standing ovations by an audience that was 98% white and filled with Sanders supporters
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#166
I'll go with the bylined, published news account instead of a couple of tweets from HootHootBern &
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#232
President Donald Trump, the white Don King.... Such a loaded criticism packed into so few words
zaj
Apr 2018
#102
WOW!!! What an articulate thought provoking OP. That double standard is a manifestation of
still_one
Apr 2018
#121
A thoughtful and inclusive explanation of your position in regards to Senator Sanders...
Tom Rinaldo
Apr 2018
#161
Thanks for taking time to read and think about my OP and for taking time to respond so thoughtfully
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#184
Those who want to understand will, those who still can't let go of their historical grooming won't
Civic Justice
Apr 2018
#357
You proved how easy it is to reply with a standard stump speech instead of on point to the OP
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#258
It's all about Bernie. He would have said the same thing if we had a white Democrat in the White
Doodley
Apr 2018
#180
You will never hear me use that curse word (but) in any sentence about Barack Obama, EffieBlack!
Cracklin Charlie
Apr 2018
#197
I am very proud of Obama but I feel the reaction to Bernie is a bit overblown.
lancelyons
Apr 2018
#207
Talking "highly" of Dr. King does not cancel out what sounds to many like criticism of Obama
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#215
Not in the context of his statements about Obama, even saying Obama should be primaired.
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#282
While I understand your argument, and I appreciate the unique challenges Obama had as our first
JCanete
Apr 2018
#208
I think all of that would have been nice...I have still not seen this in full because I can't find
JCanete
Apr 2018
#352
Bravo, EffieB!! You have opened a few minds today, and I hank you greatly for it.
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#223
Yep, because the same folks who are criticizing the OP, ran off a lot of the AA members.
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#260
There is a reason people don't pretend to know what is in other people's minds.
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#347
This African American thinks your post is excellent, and definitely speaks for me.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2018
#259
It appears to me that when Bernie was marching to protest civil rights abuses
TexasTowelie
Apr 2018
#261
Don't know if mentioned too many comments on this OP to sift through, but the root had a blog on
lunasun
Apr 2018
#283
Nope, I graded your post "obtuse" but that is because your post earned the grade.
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#451
Excellent!!!! and The inserted Video of Rev. Dr. William J. Barber Sums it up
Civic Justice
Apr 2018
#328
How can at this point 8488 claimed Democrats read this, and it has only 205 DU votes
Civic Justice
Apr 2018
#342
A gazillion threads & comments and I HAVE YET TO READ ANY verbatim quotes or context --Until I do,
Kashkakat v.2.0
Apr 2018
#344
Take what with a grain of salt? How someone tells you certain words made them feel?
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#348
I mean if person A makes a statement, and person B paraphrases it and doesnt give an exact quote or
Kashkakat v.2.0
Apr 2018
#372
Great post...rec. I am only sorry that in 2018 such a post still needs to be written.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#363
I learned from the primaries that I should never tell anyone to not be offended by Bernie.
aikoaiko
Apr 2018
#419
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that minorities only want to hear better rhetoric..
aikoaiko
Apr 2018
#430
I don't have a problem with him having a different view. My problem is his refusal to listen to
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#441