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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Camp Says Ending Superdelegate 'Debacle' Key to Defeating Trump in 2020 [View all]BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)154. I do believe Bernie has another motive
Last edited Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:42 AM - Edit history (1)
and it's not what's in the best interest of the Democratic Party
Isn't Bernie a Super delegate? Did he resign that position as a show of good faith and in support of his own attempts to elliminated the influence and votes of super delegates??
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Bernie Sanders Camp Says Ending Superdelegate 'Debacle' Key to Defeating Trump in 2020 [View all]
TexasTowelie
Apr 2018
OP
WRONG, Actually discontinuing the influence of superdelegates is what gave us Trump
Fresh_Start
Apr 2018
#1
Wrong analysis...the party isn't the question...the question is whether or not superdelegates
Fresh_Start
Apr 2018
#47
If we didn't have supers ...we would not had a nominee until fall...as we have proportional voting
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#167
That has happened before...and in every instance I can think of we lost the general.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#184
Well technically...we never got to the smokey rooms but there was drama and deals made and we lost
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#194
It benefits a candidate who wants to fight it out even if they don't win a majority of the votes.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#168
Teh republican base is a hell of a lot different than the democratic base. There's no corrolary here
JCanete
Apr 2018
#186
So, by that logic, why haven't the Democrats barred Bernie from caucusing with the Party?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#58
For the same reason that Angus King caucuses with the Democrats. That is what independents do.
still_one
Apr 2018
#64
As an Independent he can caucus with whom he wants. If he thinks he can go caucus with the GOP
politicaljunkie41910
Apr 2018
#68
Had Sen. Sanders and his supporters admitted defeat then who knows what might have happened.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#6
Sanders apparently didn't think they so corrupt that he would refuse to be one. (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2018
#123
Very true. And of course supers have always voted with the candidate who received the most votes and
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#134
Absurd and ridiculous assertion (speaking to the Sanders camp, not the person posting this)
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#7
Yep, they had to pry the nomination out of his cold dead hands. I joke, but it did hurt HRC.
dameatball
Apr 2018
#28
I cant comment but if I could I would and I would RAGE about it for a while.
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#30
Go ahead. I admired Bernie (still do) because he was bold on some issues. But we have to win.
dameatball
Apr 2018
#34
No and more no...here is what this is about...given proportional voting ...it is unlikely a
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#8
How can someone who isn't a member of an organization dictate their rules or policies?
George II
Apr 2018
#27
No...not unless we have winner take all primaries...I don't want a candidate to fight to the death
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#169
He was against them before being for them when he thought they could benefit him, but they didn't so
MrsCoffee
Apr 2018
#38
For all intents and purposes, Bernie IS a Democrat yes... a damn good one at that!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#73
THAT'S nonsense... then why does Bernie caucus with the Democratic Party if it's
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#111
So, Bernie is a Democrat again? Is Nina? Any intention of sticking by us at all?
Hekate
Apr 2018
#51
Is this the same Nina Turner that was a regular on Ed "RT" Schultz's radio show back in the day?
GoCubsGo
Apr 2018
#121
Even without the Super Delegates Hillary won California, and she also won San Francisco. This is
still_one
Apr 2018
#60
Oh, GMAFB! In what reality does someone "not caring" mean the same thing as "hate"?
NurseJackie
Apr 2018
#181
The super delegates played no role in the outcome of the race, nor was there ever the possibility
StevieM
Apr 2018
#72
Indeed - when one decides to run as a candidate, one is aware of the rules and policies.
ehrnst
Apr 2018
#122
EVERYONE releasing the damn TAX RETURNS and shaming DT into releasing his -- that's the key.
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#103
You stated that Superdelegates gave HRC an advantage by stating their preference
ehrnst
Apr 2018
#136
No you haven't answered my questions - just tried to change your original claims
ehrnst
Apr 2018
#146
You mean like in the 2008 primaries when the popular vote was a near tie (under 1%)
ehrnst
Apr 2018
#163
The bottom line is, unless I missed it, superdelegates have never determined the nominee.
George II
Apr 2018
#148
I have no idea and I don't really care. This isn't about Sanders, it's about superdelegates.
Vinca
Apr 2018
#171
I don't like the idea of disputed conventions...which is what would happen unless you also
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#175
No we need to win elections and if you end up with multiple ballots because the winner of the
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#195
If the delegates happen to pick the loser that's too bad, but it's their choice.
Vinca
Apr 2018
#197
Oh really so the voters don't matter ...changed your tune...well it won't happen so...and
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#198
The voters DO matter. That's why their votes shouldn't be negated by superdelegates.
Vinca
Apr 2018
#199
No Democratic votes have ever been negated by supers...but a contested convention where a person
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#200
I don't remember Superdelegates being a "problem" until Bernie came along...
brooklynite
Apr 2018
#138
Nonsense...Pres.Obama had the majority of votes...and if Pres. Obama could beat Hillary with supers
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#172
I didn't hear any criticism at all...and Hilary did not try for a disputed convention either.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#176
And it looks like history is about to repeat if Sen. Sanders and that person I despise Nina Turner
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#178
My personal opinion is that he thinks he can get the nomination even if he doesn't win the majority
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#179
Bernie will not be mistaken for an astute pundit if he keeps making idiotic observations like that.
LonePirate
Apr 2018
#155
Well, then, I expect him to be clear that he will not vote as a superdelegate in 2020
KitSileya
Apr 2018
#156