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In reply to the discussion: Every Democrat Should Support Bernie Sanders's New Labor Bill [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)329. Why would a Democrat not be free to speak their conscience? (nt)
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Totally agree, but, please, not before some here get in their usual dose of unfair Bernie bashing.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#127
Personality over policy is overrated! But very popular, esp. with media.
appalachiablue
May 2018
#203
Yes, one of the main reasons we're stuck with that dickwad occupying the Oval Office.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#282
There's no need to conceal the name of the bill's sponsor to avoid triggering the flames.
Jim Lane
May 2018
#386
Jim, you're stating the obvious, obviously (haha)... some people just can't help themselves.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#403
That's actually not a good thing. Because zero progress has been made on those consistent messages.
stevenleser
May 2018
#15
It doesnt grow to an adult status overnight, but it germinates, becomes a sapling, etc. Thats not
stevenleser
May 2018
#19
Thanks. The Bernie bashing ignores the fact that Bernie has voted with Democrats
Sophia4
May 2018
#50
Except when he voted against them, most recently with the Russia Sanctions, as well as....
ehrnst
May 2018
#248
Yes, the Bernie bashing never ends... sad to see, especially at a time we should be uniting
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#404
Absolutely, I think we got that one in the bag, but only if we don't get over confident
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#417
I applaud any and all political leaders that have a hand in or will have a hand in bringing
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#213
Wrong, post #3 started to change the subject from supporting the labor bill and that wasn't me. n/t
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#227
"Bernie has been promoting this at least since 1988" Wow. Mayor of Burlington?
George II
May 2018
#246
The US population is also 4X that of Germany and made up of 50 individual states....
George II
May 2018
#315
And he is having zero success. And knowing that he is throwing up legislation that has no chance
stevenleser
May 2018
#121
public awareness is not zero success. Democrats adopting more liberal positions, deciding
JCanete
May 2018
#142
The public isn't aware, the public doesn't support the idea, zero progress. nt
stevenleser
May 2018
#197
The public isn't aware of what? That's pretty flippant and inaccurate, given that all of the
JCanete
May 2018
#283
we could go back and for like that forever and wouldn't that be fun, but clearly this isn't a
JCanete
May 2018
#384
No progress AT ALL on any front by this approach. I think there was one, a veterans bill
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#105
The Observer - Kushner's publication. Note the shivs to Hillary, written during the primary, natch.
ehrnst
May 2018
#220
But, but, but... "if it didn't happen in THIS thread, then it didn't happen at all!"
NurseJackie
May 2018
#323
It irks the holy hell out of me to see Wellstone mentioned in this thread.
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#106
No one else has spoken for so long against the corporate powers that be and our
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#119
That's what the DLC was all about moving the party to the right to win politically
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#122
If you can't figure out the majority of the party as it was dominated by the DLC there
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#147
Perhaps you can show me these articles pertaining to the far left trashing Paul Wellstone? n/t
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#149
The party was dominated by the DLC, that's a historical fact, denying it won't make it go away.
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#162
Hillary was not only very progressive but she on her own and she and her
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#176
But she apparently is distracting from actual progressive issues that matter to
ehrnst
May 2018
#183
Universal is universal, that doesn't mean anything less than that can't be good or needed but
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#198
Hillary was liberal in some policies but most conservative in others, of course
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#235
"for all practical purposes supported or at the very least gave tacit approval"
ehrnst
May 2018
#239
Sanders is being praised for voting FOR the crime bill and Clinton is being bashed for a bill....
George II
May 2018
#249
It all has to do with intent, Hillary as First Lady was certainly in a position to influence.
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#250
"Reasons" notwithstanding he DID vote for the bill, didn't he? For whatever reason....
George II
May 2018
#256
Actually she was a more effective lawmaker in the Senate in her 3 years than Bernie
ehrnst
May 2018
#287
You got that right... Bernie's more of a Democrat than most Democrats! He has the highest percentage
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#134
Which one are you criticizing Jessie for having it on his platform or Bernie
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#167
And while purity is demanded by those who dont know what they are doing, Paul Ryan
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#184
Excuse me? He's now campaigning against mass incarceration, which is the result...
George II
May 2018
#247
So what has he actually accomplished in all the decades he has been in office?
sheshe2
May 2018
#251
I agree. I think that we should be discussing this in terms of his labor policy
ehrnst
May 2018
#296
okay, I missed the context of your point when I read it, and won't speak for Uncle Joe.
JCanete
May 2018
#332
Hater of jobs, I would not absolutely stretch to concerning Bernie's vote on that bill
ehrnst
May 2018
#333
That's fair, so Sanders literally took those details to task when he spoke about the
JCanete
May 2018
#336
Thanks Uncle Joe, but there won't be peace for me 'til BLOTUS is impeached...
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#170
A direst result from decades of the corporate media conglomerates propaganda brainwashing.
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#166
+1 And esp. this. Few mention how non-stop media coverage greatly aided DT.
appalachiablue
May 2018
#209
Brilliant! Perfect! Absolutely TRUE!! That's the BEST summary and description...
NurseJackie
May 2018
#311
I believe Bernie has long felt he could help the Democratic Party more as an Independent
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#18
Okayyyy? Well, that's nice. But it doesn't make what I'm laughing at any LESS amusing.
NurseJackie
May 2018
#55
12+ Dems. incl. Harris, Gillbrand, Warren support the bill. I know, good.
appalachiablue
May 2018
#215
If that comment wasnt so sad, to look around at our current circumstances and
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#109
You don't think Bernie's strong enough to speak his conscience if he were a Democrat?
EffieBlack
May 2018
#48
The powers that be don't have as strong a grip on the major political parties today
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#69
But the misinformation that is willingly lapped up by both far right and far left
ehrnst
May 2018
#73
That's why we need major education reform focusing more on critical thinking skills and
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#117
I said education reform as well including putting a focus on critical thinking skills. Also I never
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#124
I have tried to answer your question improve critical thinking skills and college education would
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#143
HRC has worked in charitable organizations for over 5 decades. Boots on the ground.
sunRISEnow
May 2018
#316
No! Democrats get moneys and have to do what the money-givers tell them to do.
betsuni
May 2018
#309
It's a weapon. There is a lot of work to do to improve the image of Labor Unions in this country
stevenleser
May 2018
#14
+1 Lotsa time spent on individuals, candidates when policy advocacy is vital too.
appalachiablue
May 2018
#201
Again. I made that point to show the non sequitur nature of your comment.
Cuthbert Allgood
May 2018
#89
Honest to gawd: "safety data sheet", "Students for Democratic Society", "Saturday Down South"?
hlthe2b
May 2018
#103
CDS is a "clever" abbreviation for those that blame Clinton for everything.
Cuthbert Allgood
May 2018
#107
Nah, you engaged in 'whataboutism' to deflect from the topic. 'BUT WHATABOUT HILLARY!!1!'
emulatorloo
May 2018
#140
So it's not a new labor bill? You are outlining that the headline is deceptive.
NCTraveler
May 2018
#45
Bernie has been in Congress, first the House and now the Senate, for at least 22 years.
Sophia4
May 2018
#108
Been watching this for decades, I finally figured out what is going on but dont dare
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#111
If the argument is that it is just empty symbolism because there is no chance it will pass,
Cuthbert Allgood
May 2018
#138
Let's introduce bills like this now so that people have a reason to vote Democratic in November.
Jim Lane
May 2018
#158
One can't help but wonder how much more support there would be for this were Sanders not attached.
Garrett78
May 2018
#160
This "new" labor bill just repeats every Dem party platform from the last 25 yrs.
TheSmarterDog
May 2018
#204
And the fanatically pro Bernie posters seem to think his every utterance is gospel.
TheSmarterDog
May 2018
#285
They don't need to be "convinced" to support it, we've been supporting it since years before....
George II
May 2018
#318
Standard Bernie: Finds a parade & puts himself in front to pretend he's leading it.
TheSmarterDog
May 2018
#334
Standard Bernie-bashing: Accepts falsehoods as long as they put Bernie in a bad light.
Jim Lane
May 2018
#351
The falsehood is the repeated assertion that Bernie hasn't introduced a bill.
Jim Lane
May 2018
#377
Click "Bernie Sanders introduced the Workplace Democracy Act" in the 5th paragraph.
ucrdem
May 2018
#391
I have been reading this thread and BY GOD we better hope these folks are in a VERY
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#398
You provided 2 polls, one from two years ago, and a biased analysis of one of them.
ehrnst
May 2018
#421
If I wanted to find out what his major legislative accomplishments were, where would I look?
NurseJackie
May 2018
#407
I would have thought that at least ONE of his vocal followers would have responded.
NurseJackie
May 2018
#409
There is no Senate bill, just a number. There IS a House bill, Pocan's, that the OP links to.
ucrdem
May 2018
#343
The SB number exists but the text does not, which is why the OP doesn't link to it.
ucrdem
May 2018
#348
What part of "As of 05/12/2018 text has not been received for S.2810" do you not understand?
ucrdem
May 2018
#353
Pocan has the House bill on his House site. Bernie has no bill. That's why Levitz links to
ucrdem
May 2018
#359
Levitz (OP) links to Pocan's bill but calls it "Bernie Sanders's New Labor Bill."
ucrdem
May 2018
#363
The article doesn't link to Bernie's bill because it doesn't exist. Pocan's does.
ucrdem
May 2018
#346
From your link: "As of 05/12/2018 text has not been received for S.2810." A number is not a bill.
ucrdem
May 2018
#352
Look if Bernie's bill was available Levitz would have linked it. It isn't so he linked to Pocan's
ucrdem
May 2018
#355
Glad to see you in this subthread, sheshe2. Maybe you can clarify something for me.
Jim Lane
May 2018
#372
So, Bernie is proposing something, but hasn't done anything? Is that what I get from this?
sunRISEnow
May 2018
#373
That's always bothered me. Loyalty and a willingness to commit are important to me...
NurseJackie
May 2018
#410
