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In reply to the discussion: How Bernie Sanders Helped Derail a Promising Legal Fight Against Gun Violence [View all]Straw Man
(6,625 posts)325. If you don't want to answer, just say so.
I posed a question in my analogy. Would you care to respond to it? Nowhere in my "absurd hypothetical" did I deny that the plaintiffs can bring lawsuits. The question is how you feel about anti-abortion groups trying to sue providers out of existence. Is that OK with you, or do you think they deserve some protection?
And again, if the "principle" that companies should not be able to be sued for what end users do with their product made any sense, then it should be codified into law for all companies, not just gun companies.
Perhaps it should be, but so far no one has tried to sue auto makers for vehicular homicide or distillers for crimes committed by drunks.
If government entities were throwing their weight into coercive lawsuits against any industry, I would favor legal protection for that industry. Government should not be able to use civil courts to achieve what legislation couldn't.
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How Bernie Sanders Helped Derail a Promising Legal Fight Against Gun Violence [View all]
sheshe2
May 2018
OP
Hey why let divisions heal when they can be used to help us lose more elections
Fullduplexxx
May 2018
#1
Is that the same Hillary Clinton that has been the most admired woman in the WORLD...
George II
May 2018
#319
Interesting. She's sure pulling in the crowds and standing ovations IRL for someone so "unliked"
ehrnst
May 2018
#332
So, you're saying that a DU member who you have NEVER met has a drinking problem? Really?????
George II
May 2018
#321
Do you know what that "poll" represents? Look at the methodology (and it's old, too) Hint...
George II
May 2018
#320
You mean like Hillary Clinton being a Goldwater campaign volunteer? Lets stop all this purity crap..
marble falls
May 2018
#90
All that had no effect on policy...what Sen. Sanders did had a big effect...how many school
Demsrule86
May 2018
#102
I'm not criticizing Hillary. I am criticizing the useless splintering of the Democratic Party just..
marble falls
May 2018
#116
I'll give you $10.00 to point out one place where in my entire life I ever said that....
marble falls
May 2018
#122
I'm not worried about your star. But just because and only because you asked for it....
marble falls
May 2018
#197
My point is that we need to be working together and that Nov and unity is what we have to....
marble falls
May 2018
#233
Its safe to say neither you nor I think Bernie goes far enough in his gun control position....
marble falls
May 2018
#239
This is about him prioritizing Economic Justice which you obviously disagree with.
MicaelS
May 2018
#342
"For all intents and purposes, Bernie Sanders is a Democrat. (nt)" - Skinner
LiberalLovinLug
May 2018
#187
I'm not holding anybody to anything they've ever said. I'm saying we all evolve, this constant...
marble falls
May 2018
#125
This phenomenon of verbatim quotes and voting records as "bashing" is being studied
betsuni
May 2018
#56
Oh...Here I thought bringing up past Senators actual voting records was something we should be doing
LiberalLovinLug
May 2018
#287
Bernie wud make a great Prez. Hillary too btw, despite her bad votes. We hafta look fwd now & unite!
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#254
So holding feet to the fire was only for the black guy? We can't do it to Sanders?
stevenleser
May 2018
#26
Seems to me it was the idiots who ate up NRA/Russian propaganda that guaranteed us Trump.
SunSeeker
May 2018
#43
So posting statements concerning Sanders voting record, here on DU, will "guarantee"
ehrnst
May 2018
#136
Bull. Auto manufacturers don't fund a white wing racist organization like NRA. The manufacturers,
Hoyt
May 2018
#13
No, Bernie gave gun manufacturers special immunities NOT available to car manufacturers.
SunSeeker
May 2018
#19
The PLCAA was passed so gun manufacturers could sell assault weapons with impunity.
SunSeeker
May 2018
#312
I stand against Bernie on this, and the right wingers who originated this talking point.
Ninsianna
May 2018
#30
So you don't think that the drug company that sent 9 million opiod pills to a town of
Fresh_Start
May 2018
#112
Why would anyone who calls him/herself a "progressive" vote against the Brady Bill?
George II
May 2018
#16
No, Bernie is a "Democrat's Democrat," voting with the Democrats more often...
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#91
⚘Thank you SheShe. He took care of the voters in his own State at the behest of all others.
Wwcd
May 2018
#17
Yeah, Bernie is a "true progressive" - "Except when he votes against them on progressive issues"
csziggy
May 2018
#124
You shouldn't put the Bernie haters on ignore... we need to try change hearts and minds.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#93
hear hear. Our ability to shape the bubbles we want to exist in is going to erode our
JCanete
May 2018
#354
He's got the 9th BEST NRA rating of the 49 Democrats/Independents currently in the Senate.
George II
May 2018
#137
You do realize the PLCAA is still in effect and Bernie still supports it, right?
SunSeeker
May 2018
#48
How Harry Reid and Dianne Feinstein Helped Derail a Promising Legal Fight Against Gun Violence
Glamrock
May 2018
#52
And which of those yes votes are publicly gearing up a 2020 presidential campaign?
SunSeeker
May 2018
#68
So we can't discuss his horrible pro-gun votes unless he officially declares?
SunSeeker
May 2018
#70
There is nothing "unfair" about holding any of our representatived accountable.
SunSeeker
May 2018
#75
Oh, so now you think criticising Sanders for his vote is "absolutely acceptable"?
SunSeeker
May 2018
#80
Car manufacturers are held liabile for criminal misuse of their products, why not gun manufacturers?
SunSeeker
May 2018
#82
Exactly. If car manufacturers advertised their products the way gun manufacturers do, they'd be in
Hoyt
May 2018
#96
If negligent marketing is an "easily disproven canard," why not let it go to the jury?
SunSeeker
May 2018
#185
Is there some gun marketing that shows them being used in a dangerous or illegal manner?
EX500rider
May 2018
#198
That link had zero examples of gun ads of people doing illegal or dangerous things with guns.
EX500rider
May 2018
#200
Marketing is not just ads. It is how you sell. They knowingly sold to a bad seed dealer.
SunSeeker
May 2018
#203
Wrong. For the 100th time. The exemption carved out is for the gun industry *only*.
DanTex
May 2018
#111
Umm, that's because car manufacturers don't knowingly and intentionally profit from crime.
DanTex
May 2018
#177
Well, if your contention was that S&W was successfully sued, then I guess I am.
DanTex
May 2018
#292
Threats of lawsuits can also be effective (obviously). But in this case suits actually were filed.
DanTex
May 2018
#299
What makes you think the protections against frivolous lawsuits are insufficient?
DanTex
May 2018
#346
I guess you know nothing about auto safety or environmental legislation, just for starters.
DanTex
May 2018
#355
Perhaps, I can help. What is the difference between "Items of Metal" that go boom.
thewhollytoast
May 2018
#353
Once again, it's pointed out that St Bernie has no clothes, and his worshipers ignore it
TheSmarterDog
May 2018
#88
I do not support anything which helps murderous gun manufacturers who received special rights with
Demsrule86
May 2018
#104
If any agent of a gun manufacturer pulls the trigger of murder gun, I support their prosecution.
aikoaiko
May 2018
#115
NO other manufacturer has blanket exemption and gun owners shouldn't either...the reason
Demsrule86
May 2018
#165
The latter - I'm pointing out the absence of such a fund for gun violence victims
aikoaiko
May 2018
#293
Pssst...this is the reason for much of his support. Especially among white males. nt
LexVegas
May 2018
#173
er..yeah...totally...which is why his voters then turned around and overwhelmingly supported Clinton
JCanete
May 2018
#193
Obsessive Bernie bashers drove me away from DU during the run up to the election.
mac56
May 2018
#204
Sorry, can't laugh... we need to unite, not divide, before it's too late.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#259
I hear you mac, but, please hang in there with us... don't let the dividers win.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#258
Sadly, he hasn't... have a feeling Bernie has had enough and is ready to pass the baton
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#256