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Stinky The Clown

(67,798 posts) Fri May 18, 2018, 03:19 PM May 2018

Gun OWNERS - all of them - are the problem. [View all]

The NRA would not exist were it not for people owning guns since the gun lobby would have no money to support it were no one buying their guns.

Without gun owners, there would be far less of a "gun culture".

Yes, bad guys with guns are also gun owners, too. In my view, and to my basic point here, there is no difference between gun owners. If someone owns one gun or an arsenal, you are contributing to the problem.

Were there no gun owners, today's shooter would have had to resort to other methods. Which he apparently tried, with IEDs, but failed.

Yeah, I know all the bullshit that will follow this post . . . . mental health, responsible gun owners, and a thousand other deflections when the issue is REAL SIMPLE: GUN OWNERS.

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Gun OWNERS - all of them - are the problem. [View all] Stinky The Clown May 2018 OP

Making general statements like this is of no use, I own guns and consider the beachbum bob May 2018 #1

The "problem" that billh58 May 2018 #5

Maybe you can back that up with some links. former9thward May 2018 #8

You do know as gun violence rankings go, Chicago doesn't even make it beachbum bob May 2018 #12

Here you go billh58 May 2018 #14

Well, since you are from Chicago you know there isn't a border checkpoint when you enter. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #18

So what you're saying is that those tough gun laws aren't working for Chicago. WillowTree May 2018 #19

Straw purchases are illegal. former9thward May 2018 #23

. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #32

The FBI identifies states with weak billh58 May 2018 #41

You did not answer my question. former9thward May 2018 #44

It makes perfect sense and you know it. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #51

It would be very easy to place undercover officers as straw purchasers. former9thward May 2018 #54

You sure you are from Chicago? The one in Illinois? Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #63

You are defeating your argument. former9thward May 2018 #78

Which argument is that? Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #80

You need to be careful with that argument. Caliman73 May 2018 #52

The poster I replied to said stores were the problem. former9thward May 2018 #56

There are definitely stores that are the problem. Caliman73 May 2018 #57

And they also "lose" thousands of guns per year. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #60

My thoughts exactly SonofDonald May 2018 #25

In all the years of these kind of OP's wasupaloopa May 2018 #58

I don't own any guns but I agree with you! GitRDun May 2018 #84

Now that you have identified that I am the problem Devil Child May 2018 #2

Same here. I wonder if there's something insidious in the air. Hortensis May 2018 #17

You beat me to it with the 8! Sailor65x1 May 2018 #47

:) I understand crayons better than computers, Hortensis May 2018 #53

"Like a Crayola 8-count box of primary color fixes to national problems" Devil Child May 2018 #61

You are a "leftist"? XRubicon May 2018 #48

Yes Devil Child May 2018 #49

Ok... XRubicon May 2018 #50

You need to first admit that our gun culture is wasupaloopa May 2018 #59

"It diesn't matter who you vote for." Devil Child May 2018 #72

In reference to your stand on our gun culture wasupaloopa May 2018 #86

I think that we have a "culture of violence" and masculinity. Caliman73 May 2018 #76

Would you give them up as in Australia, et. treestar May 2018 #87

Ah.. SQUEE May 2018 #3

Well done. Tipperary May 2018 #4

i needed that laugh! samnsara May 2018 #7

+1 superpatriotman May 2018 #9

Now THAT''S funny! Thank you. WillowTree May 2018 #10

LOL! Crunchy Frog May 2018 #11

STOP BEING DIVISIVE!!! ProudLib72 May 2018 #16

i own several guns and im very responsible with them... samnsara May 2018 #6

Says EVERY gun owner. nt USALiberal May 2018 #46

With 80+ million gun owners and 9,000 homicides per year they would be correct. EX500rider May 2018 #64

LOL, compare us to other countries. UK, Canada, countrys we admire. nt USALiberal May 2018 #71

Sure.. EX500rider May 2018 #73

LOL, math challenged?? USALiberal May 2018 #74

Nice try! USA is 4.88! So 4.9!!!!! Somalia is 5.56. Great company we keep! nt USALiberal May 2018 #75

All...hmm. AncientGeezer May 2018 #13

All of us? flotsam May 2018 #15

Apparently, all of us, yeah Sailor65x1 May 2018 #45

The problem is not treating guns as one would a car cynatnite May 2018 #20

Substitute "car" for "gun" and "AAA" for "NRA"... brooklynite May 2018 #21

Gun owners should pay XRubicon May 2018 #22

So what do you intend to do about us? hack89 May 2018 #24

Tax you XRubicon May 2018 #27

And when will these taxes in place? Nt hack89 May 2018 #28

You're not going to call it a "poll tax" that infringes on your rights? XRubicon May 2018 #30

No. Just wondering when those new taxes will be in place. Nt hack89 May 2018 #33

Good, so you don't object right? XRubicon May 2018 #35

Let's see the details. Nt hack89 May 2018 #40

No, you won't. pintobean May 2018 #29

Wheres the Greek saying? XRubicon May 2018 #31

If it could be done, it already would have. pintobean May 2018 #36

I don't want your gun, I want your money XRubicon May 2018 #37

You'll get neither. pintobean May 2018 #38

Good luck! XRubicon May 2018 #39

Putin must be very happy today with all that Russian money donated to the NRA kimbutgar May 2018 #26

As it is playing out over the last 50 years, the 2nd Amendment appears to me to be a suicide pact Exotica May 2018 #34

There is no talking sense to a gun owner Blecht May 2018 #42

Exactly, they don't care either. Hoyt May 2018 #66

Wow!! This guy has it right!! womanofthehills May 2018 #43

Except for the fat shaming references sprinkled throughout... NutmegYankee May 2018 #65

LOL. I like target shooting, so Im to blame. This is why we struggle to win elections. GusFring May 2018 #55

I think polarized extremists --- all of them -- are the problem. aikoaiko May 2018 #62

I think one is part of the solution or part of the problem. Stinky The Clown May 2018 #69

By not committing violence aikoaiko May 2018 #77

Yeah, Zimmerman, Dunn, Paddock, Roof . . . . All responsible gun owners up Hoyt May 2018 #82

No one; you, me... anyone; knows what our future mental health will be. Comatose Sphagetti May 2018 #67

This gun owning, liberal democrat supports the last Democratic Party platform position on guns. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #68

Totally agree gopiscrap May 2018 #70

Gun owners would rather hug their guns than hug Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #79

I'm hugging my child and my gun at the same time Devil Child May 2018 #83

K&R Gun OWNERS - all of them - are the problem. samir.g May 2018 #81

Isn't that kinda like saying every one who drives is the problem because of a car accident thinkingagain May 2018 #85