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Hekate

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75. I was in my County Affirmative Action Commission for 13 years. Does that count?
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:33 AM
May 2018

I was on my way to the monthly meeting when the Rodney King riots broke out. My car was tuned to a Los Angeles station and I remember the litany of streets and blocks, until the signal broke up in the mountains. After I arrived at our mid-county meeting place, one of our African American members said: "I don't want my son to grow up in a world like this!" and I retorted "I don't want my son to grow up in a world like this either!"

Does that count?

I left the Commission about 2001, when I had to concentrate on finishing my doctoral dissertation (done and defended in February 2002), but it was clear that the AAC was not going to last much longer anyway, because the people of California had voted to end affirmative action. During its 30 years, though, the Commission transformed the face of the employee roster of the County of Santa Barbara into something resembling the population of the County itself, which is heavily Latino, along with much other solid work.

Does that count?

Effie, not all of us live next door to or share a cublcle with people of other races. Even when we do -- Most people don't want to pick scabs at their place of employment, nor rock the boat with their neighbors. Lunchrooms segregate themselves by both class and race. Class bites, by the way. When was the last time you tried to find something in common with a secretary or other clerical worker at your place of employment? Hint: I was that secretary.

Tuesday. WillowTree May 2018 #1
A couple of months ago TBA May 2018 #2
couple weeks back....at a meeting ..about a figure of speech... dembotoz May 2018 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler May 2018 #4
Well, I do it all the time Downtown Hound May 2018 #5
My wife. Last night. kwassa May 2018 #6
+10000 JustAnotherGen May 2018 #13
Same here. NickB79 May 2018 #37
It really is difficult. kwassa May 2018 #68
Trump called my wife's family "animals." hunter May 2018 #60
Last Week northremembers May 2018 #7
Unfortunately almost never. MontanaMama May 2018 #8
A few months ago get the red out May 2018 #9
This is common for black professional women ... kwassa May 2018 #12
Disgusting eom get the red out May 2018 #15
All day, every day - from the top down and the bottom up EffieBlack May 2018 #21
It is most fascinating .... kwassa May 2018 #27
Years ago at work mitch96 May 2018 #65
"I felt privileged in a way that she trusted me enough to tell me about that" BumRushDaShow May 2018 #32
And no wonder we're wary EffieBlack May 2018 #51
Ain't that the truth! BumRushDaShow May 2018 #59
A half an hour ago. H2O Man May 2018 #10
This morning JustAnotherGen May 2018 #11
Mothers' Day - Jane Austin May 2018 #14
Last Friday. A close friend. My living room. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #16
About four years ago dumbcat May 2018 #17
Last week Runningdawg May 2018 #18
A few months back. African immigrant. Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #19
Please don't let one negative experience with one person of color scare you away from EffieBlack May 2018 #22
Oh, I know that. It was just in a work setting, and I can't risk losing a job over it. Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #24
Your wife got fired for creating a hostile work environment because she discussed race? Empowerer May 2018 #40
Yes, by a white coworker who eavesdropped into the convo. Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #43
That sounds like a possible illegal termination. Did she do anything about it? EffieBlack May 2018 #50
She was an "at-will" employee. We had no recourse. Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #53
Even at-will employees can't be fired for discriminatory reasons. EffieBlack May 2018 #54
Well, be that as it may, she's ended up the better for it, so we're in no hurry to sue or anything. Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #57
The Left has lots of "problems" with "division" and they aren't limited to allies responding EffieBlack May 2018 #62
Of course not. As with any problem, there's always a multitude of influences. Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #63
"He flipped an absolute -shit- at me" BumRushDaShow May 2018 #46
Yeah, I get where that would be the case. Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #47
You will always have people who come here BumRushDaShow May 2018 #48
My question is, DO WE WANT TO TAKE CONTROL OF CONGRESS Hortensis May 2018 #20
Thank you for the reminder. I didn't know that. EffieBlack May 2018 #23
When classes are in session, a few times a week ProudLib72 May 2018 #25
Every semester we devote a day to race and what it means and how it plays out in U.S. History malchickiwick May 2018 #26
The PBS series is really good. kwassa May 2018 #30
One day 1/16th of the semester and I have to cover 10,000-plus years of history!! malchickiwick May 2018 #38
it does make me feel better. kwassa May 2018 #41
My part of the conversation was, "Yeah, that's fucked up." aikoaiko May 2018 #28
Three Weeks Ago JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2018 #29
Two years ago ghostsinthemachine May 2018 #31
My most gracious filipa daughter in law - married to my son, Ret. 21 years - Navy Chief - asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #33
MONDAY heaven05 May 2018 #34
About right now cagefreesoylentgreen May 2018 #35
Frequently enough that they aren't distinct recollections. Ms. Toad May 2018 #36
About a week ago mokawanis May 2018 #39
Today actually Devil Child May 2018 #42
This past week, talking to a conservative friend- his family is from Columbia but he's been bettyellen May 2018 #44
Might be good to answer that question yourself oberliner May 2018 #45
Ok, Boo - I'll be glad to answer EffieBlack May 2018 #49
Hey, Boo - you're usually so quick to respond to everything I say, but you still haven't responded EffieBlack May 2018 #61
About 45 minutes ago... The_REAL_Ecumenist May 2018 #52
My last face to face conversation about racism meadowlander May 2018 #55
It comes up every so often with a friend of mine jes06c May 2018 #56
LOL-sometimes all you can do is just nod and say "That's really interesting. Wow, look at the time!" EffieBlack May 2018 #58
Right after the Starbucks incident neeksgeek May 2018 #64
Never, the downside is way worse than the upside MichMan May 2018 #66
You don't have any black friends or co-workers or people of color whom you trust and trust you? EffieBlack May 2018 #67
Some, but still won't discuss race with them for the reasons I stated. MichMan May 2018 #93
That's too bad EffieBlack May 2018 #94
Thankfully, all the freaking time Cal Carpenter May 2018 #69
This is great EffieBlack May 2018 #71
Maybe a month ago MissB May 2018 #70
I have a very close friend who is a refugee from Congo. He is very black. We decided he would Amaryllis May 2018 #72
For whatever reason, I end up in conversations about this with non-white people all the time Victor_c3 May 2018 #73
The former head of the county GOP tried to tell me that voter id laws are not racist Gothmog May 2018 #74
I was in my County Affirmative Action Commission for 13 years. Does that count? Hekate May 2018 #75
When was the last time you tried to find something in common with a secretary or other clerical EffieBlack May 2018 #76
Good for you, because I was lonely as shit back in the day. When I finally carved out some time... Hekate May 2018 #79
Two months ago with a cab driver from Nigeria... talked after an AA on side of road flipped him off. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #77
What was his answer? EffieBlack May 2018 #78
OMG yes Effie... had some amazing talks w/ cabbies! That day I had at least a half-hour conversation InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #92
Last week with my grandson nini May 2018 #80
Couldn't tell you exactly when, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #81
Really, not much ever really captain queeg May 2018 #82
Recently and regularly. But white folks need to talk to white folks. Garrett78 May 2018 #83
A few days ago at a state conference. femmedem May 2018 #84
10 years ago a neighbor across the street put up a confederate battle flag on his porch... beachbum bob May 2018 #85
A few days ago with my wife. We watched the Rachel Dolezal film on Netflix. TCJ70 May 2018 #86
Years ago I was out of town on a project and sitting at a local bar after work with one of my beachbum bob May 2018 #87
What you did was much more effective than calling him a racist asshole. femmedem May 2018 #89
I truly hate racist assholes but I can temper what comes out and keep those inside words, in.. beachbum bob May 2018 #90
3 years ago I became close to a co-worker who is black. GreenEyedLefty May 2018 #88
A few minutes ago, with my wife. We talked about the royal wedding. We cried. yardwork May 2018 #91
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