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sarisataka

(19,113 posts)
51. I agree
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:44 AM
Aug 2012

many morons do own guns. Many drive Beamers.

My training was somewhat different. I have fired guns from BB to 155mm. I am happy staying on the small end of the spectrum these days.

To say there is NO reason to own military style semi automatic weapons is false. Target shooting, hunting and home defense are three good reasons.

f we can keep them out of the hands of morons so much the better, but like cars, we cannot discriminate based on what we think they may do.

As an aside, I would suggest staying away from drunken instructors in anything. If you are up MN way I would be happy to demonstrate a very different type of gun safety. I don't have an AK, but I can guarantee it will not rain lead

(You actually fired that piece of scrap metal?? I do not question your bravery )

Handguns are at least as distinctly anti-personnel as an AR-15 cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #1
That's inaccurate Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #7
wade's last hunting trip tiny elvis Aug 2012 #18
So because one person committed a horrible act Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #20
hunting is not a right tiny elvis Aug 2012 #22
Well Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #23
Many pro-controllers like these tragedies sarisataka Aug 2012 #29
bring your gun, just in case someone else brings a gun tiny elvis Aug 2012 #36
Militia sarisataka Aug 2012 #37
please let the sikhs know that you have their back next time tiny elvis Aug 2012 #57
I was reading on another forum Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #62
i once knew a man whose weapon carried him tiny elvis Aug 2012 #69
Just curious, do you know where this picture from? NickB79 Aug 2012 #134
yes tiny elvis Aug 2012 #159
Are you sure? The MSM reported the Aurora shooter used a 100-rd drum magazine NickB79 Aug 2012 #179
would be strange if it were another incident tiny elvis Aug 2012 #197
The drum jammed and was found inside. shadowrider Aug 2012 #217
Ah, ok. NickB79 Aug 2012 #223
Militia definition - 5. A word determined by the Supreme Court in the Heller case to not limit an AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #100
i propose the anti-gun tiny elvis Aug 2012 #115
I am pro-control... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #124
hero fantasies tiny elvis Aug 2012 #160
What is your solution then? sarisataka Aug 2012 #162
i do not have a fantasy or plan to kill tiny elvis Aug 2012 #164
Not necessarily sarisataka Aug 2012 #168
i hope your fire drill is as detailed in your mind tiny elvis Aug 2012 #199
It is sarisataka Aug 2012 #202
"Pro-controllers.....can never wait to bathe in the blood of the victims to push their agenda." Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #143
Nope sarisataka Aug 2012 #148
Yes, us silly "controllers" always making things up and guessing. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #156
A few questions sarisataka Aug 2012 #161
And a few answers.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #185
Thank you for your reply sarisataka Aug 2012 #190
Tell ya what Tommy_Carcetti shadowrider Aug 2012 #218
Damn that common sense! Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #224
I disagree. Most of those posts were put into GD by people who rarely, if ever, shadowrider Aug 2012 #234
Well, gee.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #236
Anyone can weigh in with an opinion. Everybody has one. My point is, shadowrider Aug 2012 #240
Again, does that mean they have no validity? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #243
Actually, in some states you do have a right to hunting. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #118
Hunting isn't a right...well neither are food, clothing and shelter. spayneuter Aug 2012 #176
neither is the birth of another sophist tiny elvis Aug 2012 #203
Haha...now -that- is funny! spayneuter Aug 2012 #220
Yeah, nice try with that "one person" thing. sibelian Aug 2012 #167
There is some small game hunting for pistols (rabbit). slampoet Aug 2012 #49
My husband bow hunts Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #91
Alternate use: target practice and competitions. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #2
Are they shooting silhouette targets that represent people, or something like these guys? Hoyt Aug 2012 #8
You can't score a human silhouette. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #116
Just FYI Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #117
Are they used in official matches? NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #119
Not sure Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #120
IPSC and IPDA matches quickly come to mind. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #177
IPSC and USPSA use "scored" silhouettes. A, B, & C scoring zones. OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #150
Well, I'll tell you the same thing I tell other people who make this argument... Scootaloo Aug 2012 #181
Please explain. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #207
You know, the "target practice" argument reminds me of something when I was a kid Scootaloo Aug 2012 #209
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #210
You know some strange people Scootaloo Aug 2012 #211
Ever seen wadcutter and semi-wadcutter rounds? NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #212
I don't hate the sport, actually Scootaloo Aug 2012 #213
The only "rampant dipshittery" here is your posts NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #214
So because I think target shooting could be done with modified tools... Scootaloo Aug 2012 #215
LOL NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #216
Now define what an "assault weapon" is. derby378 Aug 2012 #3
a big scary black gun NightWatcher Aug 2012 #4
I must admit I am not knowledgable about guns. Mira Aug 2012 #6
Understood, but what you might not know is... derby378 Aug 2012 #9
Pop quiz, which of these guns in CA legal (where there is an assult weapon ban) Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #16
Okay, I'm stumped - what's the legal difference between the two lowers? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #21
I'm going to guess the magazine release krispos42 Aug 2012 #46
Nope Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #178
I thought one of them might have been missing some critical notch or something krispos42 Aug 2012 #192
My guess would be the actual brand names on them... OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #152
Brilliant! (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #154
DPMS makes the Remington R-15 deaniac21 Aug 2012 #173
well fine if you don't like those ambiguous regulations then how about this dsc Aug 2012 #50
Did you post that with a quill pen or a hand-cranked printing press? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #81
there are all types of reasonable regulation of first amendment rights dsc Aug 2012 #83
And if I want to buy a gun, I have to have a background check. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #85
No you don't dsc Aug 2012 #153
Not if you are buying from a gun dealer. hack89 Aug 2012 #163
you can buy a gun at gun shows without a backround check dsc Aug 2012 #194
From a private selller. And not in every state. hack89 Aug 2012 #198
Are all you lot this stump-ignorant? Per the Commonwealth of Massachusetts: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #191
I assume you can drive to say Vermont dsc Aug 2012 #195
I *could*, if I didn't mind breaking the law. I do, so no Green Mountain arms sales for me. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #201
Pretty sure Peepsite Aug 2012 #193
the schools have filters which block the porn and a whole lot more dsc Aug 2012 #196
Background checks don't act as a filter? Peepsite Aug 2012 #200
again all one has to do is go to a gun show and wala no backround check dsc Aug 2012 #226
Dealers at gun shows run background checks. X_Digger Aug 2012 #228
child porn is the equivalent of machine gun spayneuter Aug 2012 #221
Favorite question of gun culture's attempt to cloud the issue. Hoyt Aug 2012 #10
Admit that the only way to end debate about AWs is to ban all semi-auto long guns krispos42 Aug 2012 #47
You sound like the people who want to ban porn 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #140
No shit! friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #145
It's Whatever The NY Times Says It Is. Paladin Aug 2012 #11
Really? derby378 Aug 2012 #12
Assault weapon. Definition (journalist edition): 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #141
circumcised? tiny elvis Aug 2012 #19
(1)The militia consists of all able-bodied citizens of this state......... Edweird Aug 2012 #41
that means that these guys really are militia tiny elvis Aug 2012 #63
Unless they are precluded from military service by Federal law, yes. But so are YOU. Edweird Aug 2012 #71
i will not boast that i am so well regulated as tiny elvis Aug 2012 #78
1994 called; Newt Gingrich wants his bullshit talking points back Scootaloo Aug 2012 #182
Sorry, that's not a definition derby378 Aug 2012 #219
Yeah it is a definition. Scootaloo Aug 2012 #235
Try telling that to Washington State derby378 Aug 2012 #239
For the record, the Sikh temple shooter was armed with one handgun. cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #5
Another thing I heard in the press conference... TroglodyteScholar Aug 2012 #13
Which he bought legally, despite being dishonorably discharged from the military and having well Erose999 Aug 2012 #135
1) It wasn't a DD, and 2) Do you *really* want to go the 'watch list' route? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #137
One recent photo that proves the dishonesty (or ignorance) of the cartoon in the OP slackmaster Aug 2012 #14
I posted it in ignorance. I was clueless to predict Mira Aug 2012 #15
Now you know why there's a gungeon. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #17
Well, we certainly can not put up with any support for the Bill of Rights. spayneuter Aug 2012 #26
Re-education camps of course. How dare they invoke rDigital Aug 2012 #108
Ah, the constitutional right to spray innocent people with bullets. sibelian Aug 2012 #165
Cool straw man, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #169
Yes but not nearly as noble as letting home invaders have their way with your wife and children spayneuter Aug 2012 #175
what is with the creepy wade page type platitudes? tiny elvis Aug 2012 #110
Cool false dilemma, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #172
cool and bro are expletive tiny elvis Aug 2012 #204
Logic fail, bro. Painting yourself into a corner you are. rDigital Aug 2012 #205
yes tiny elvis Aug 2012 #208
The obvious answer is to disarm the U.S. Marines. spayneuter Aug 2012 #241
:) tiny elvis Aug 2012 #242
Can you point me to the bit in the ill of Rights that says it's okay to walk into cinemas sibelian Aug 2012 #166
Cool straw man, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #170
Cool way of trying to get your post count up "bro" n/t pkdu Aug 2012 #180
Thanks for the help! rDigital Aug 2012 #184
There is no shame in ignorance sarisataka Aug 2012 #27
There Is No Shame In Ignorance, Because The Ignorant Are Too Stupid To Be Ashamed... WillyT Aug 2012 #31
There is a big difference between ignorant and stupid sarisataka Aug 2012 #34
It Is Both Ignorant And Stupid To Own An Assault Rifle... There Is Absolutely NO Reason... WillyT Aug 2012 #39
That is a good example sarisataka Aug 2012 #42
Dude... I've Fired Assault Rifles, Street Sweepers, Etc... WillyT Aug 2012 #48
I agree sarisataka Aug 2012 #51
LOL !!! - He Wasn't Drunk At The Outset, But He Was Having Difficulty With His Gal... WillyT Aug 2012 #59
Well Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #45
Well... Jesus And Thank You Lawd... For Allowing My Opinion WillyT Aug 2012 #56
Once you get them started... ellisonz Aug 2012 #28
... Mira Aug 2012 #32
... ellisonz Aug 2012 #38
... Mira Aug 2012 #67
Don't Be... It's Just A Tactile Penis Replacement WillyT Aug 2012 #30
Do you tell women that own guns that? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #82
I Would NEVER Tell A Woman That Owned A Gun That !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #87
And what is it for those of us without a penis? obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #129
a penis tiny elvis Aug 2012 #206
It's rather difficult for many people to laugh at our own sacred cows. LanternWaste Aug 2012 #151
OK, so if you need one you should have to register it. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #127
Mira here is a short video, that explains EXACTLY what the AW ban actully did.. virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #24
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #25
not really the point. Deep13 Aug 2012 #33
A Chinese teenager sarisataka Aug 2012 #35
news to me nt Deep13 Aug 2012 #40
More Info Needed Please... WillyT Aug 2012 #43
Chinese teen kills 8, hurts 5 in knife attack sarisataka Aug 2012 #44
So one person in a billion acheives what Americans do every 4-5 months? slampoet Aug 2012 #54
far more than every 4-5 months JI7 Aug 2012 #55
Rather callous sarisataka Aug 2012 #58
You can make up accusations slampoet Aug 2012 #123
Not accusing anything sarisataka Aug 2012 #146
You Forgot To Mentioned The Injured... Or... "Shot, But Not Dead"... They Don't Count ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #61
Usually all that matters is the number of dead... sarisataka Aug 2012 #70
If You Say So... WillyT Aug 2012 #73
Never claimed sarisataka Aug 2012 #79
You Were A Marine ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #80
I did spend some time sarisataka Aug 2012 #139
they look for some rare examples and act like all the cases of gun attacks JI7 Aug 2012 #53
that's the power of NRA propaganda Skittles Aug 2012 #60
Have I Told You How Much I Love You Lately ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #64
HOWDY WILLYT Skittles Aug 2012 #66
HOWDY SKITTLES !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #72
Really? Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #74
Oh... They Are Cowards Alright... They Hide Behind Their Guns... WillyT Aug 2012 #75
Classy. Another example of *why* gun control is the success that it is... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #86
Exactly... Sex Sells... WillyT Aug 2012 #89
YES - COWARDS Skittles Aug 2012 #92
Word... WillyT Aug 2012 #93
gawd I fucking DESPISE the soldier card Skittles Aug 2012 #94
If you substitute "NAACP" for "NRA" your comment will closely resemble many I see posted on spayneuter Aug 2012 #222
Except the NAACP works in the interests of people. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #231
You've always been one of my favorite DU members, Mira. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #52
GWB. *. Was. Is. and forever will be the asshole of assholes. Now with that out of the way Mira Aug 2012 #65
You Done Great Mira... WillyT Aug 2012 #68
... Mira Aug 2012 #76
Anytime... WillyT Aug 2012 #77
Our Vice President, Joe Biden, was the major author of the AWB. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #122
Shrub offered to, it's Congress that didn't pass it. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #84
Hahahahaha!!!!!! Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #121
"President Bush says he will sign a bill renewing the assault weapons ban if Congress passes it." hack89 Aug 2012 #125
Now YOU are quoting Bush. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #130
Just pointing out that Bush was willing to extend the AWB in 2004 hack89 Aug 2012 #131
And you believed him?? Really??? Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #132
Argument by smilies? OK. hack89 Aug 2012 #133
Here's (1) a simple visual to clarify a problem and (2) a Bill Clinton analysis AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #88
You do realize people hunt with AR platform rifles, rad51 Aug 2012 #90
That Ain't Hunting... That's Slaughter... WillyT Aug 2012 #95
In most states... Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #98
I guess you don't understand how a semiautomatic operates or rad51 Aug 2012 #99
No... Hunting With A Semi-Automatic Is Silly... And Cowardly.. WillyT Aug 2012 #101
Explain the difference between hunting with a ar platform with a 5 round mag and a 100 yr old mosin rad51 Aug 2012 #103
Well In The Era I Grew Up In...It Was All About A Single Shot... WillyT Aug 2012 #107
Please answer the question. No insults this time please. rad51 Aug 2012 #109
He *is* just chockablock with cool stories, isn't he? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #142
Are you 120 years old? Semi-auto guns have been used for hunting for a century NickB79 Aug 2012 #126
I don't believe for an instant your "era" was all about single-shot firearms. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #155
well they will just have to make do with a bit less firepower. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #128
A traditional "hunting rifle" bullet has much more power than a AR-15 round hack89 Aug 2012 #136
And the AR round has less recoil and is lighter and more compact and less expensive. Intermediate Erose999 Aug 2012 #144
And yet rifles and shotguns of all kinds are the least likely murder weapon hack89 Aug 2012 #147
Hands, feet, knives, and baseball bats are all multi-purpose tools. An Assault Rifle is a unitasker. Erose999 Aug 2012 #157
But if saving the most lives is the goal hack89 Aug 2012 #158
People are murdered with bare hands and feet rDigital Aug 2012 #96
Sources? nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #187
FBI's UCR, table 8 (at least in recent years) X_Digger Aug 2012 #189
Nice try. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #225
Did you not see the post you responded to? #96? X_Digger Aug 2012 #227
Except it's all part of the same conversation. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #229
"some sort of firearm" isn't what this thread is about- "assault weapons" is the subject at hand. X_Digger Aug 2012 #230
If that's how you want to limit the conversation, then there's a question begging to be asked. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #232
The *criminal* use of these rifles is rare. There, fixed it for you. X_Digger Aug 2012 #233
Well, obviously an AR-15 *could* be used for sport or hunting purposes. It is a gun, after all. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #237
All 'hunting gunz' derive their origin from a previous military weapon. X_Digger Aug 2012 #238
Common? Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #97
Remember, Europe is not some peaceful oasis. rDigital Aug 2012 #102
No! NRA propaganda! Impossible! The only reason prohibition doesn't work is that Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #105
And just as it was looking really good for the Democrats... Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #104
Simple visual that clarifies why the Assault Weapons Ban renewal is a no-brainer. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #106
But assault weapons make weak people feel strong, powerful, JDPriestly Aug 2012 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author rad51 Aug 2012 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author rad51 Aug 2012 #113
Funny Thing canEHdian Aug 2012 #114
Funny, you can buy an AR-15, AK-47 and other semi-auto "assault" guns in Canada. rDigital Aug 2012 #149
Hunting, self defense, target practice . . . 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #138
the gundeon must be deserted spanone Aug 2012 #171
Ban is a non-starter One_Life_To_Give Aug 2012 #174
Wood chippers are a common murder weapon? Scootaloo Aug 2012 #183
You ever see Fargo? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #186
Here's the thing.... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #188
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