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sarisataka

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139. I did spend some time

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:43 PM

Aug 2012

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as 1 of uncle sams misguided children

I think you did not understand my point. or I was too tired and not saying it right.

I don't agree that the wounded are unimportant, but to the media and others they are soon forgotten.

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Simple visual that clarifies why the Assault Weapons Ban renewal [View all] Mira Aug 2012 OP

Handguns are at least as distinctly anti-personnel as an AR-15 cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #1

That's inaccurate Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #7

wade's last hunting trip tiny elvis Aug 2012 #18

So because one person committed a horrible act Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #20

hunting is not a right tiny elvis Aug 2012 #22

Well Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #23

Many pro-controllers like these tragedies sarisataka Aug 2012 #29

bring your gun, just in case someone else brings a gun tiny elvis Aug 2012 #36

Militia sarisataka Aug 2012 #37

please let the sikhs know that you have their back next time tiny elvis Aug 2012 #57

I was reading on another forum Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #62

i once knew a man whose weapon carried him tiny elvis Aug 2012 #69

Just curious, do you know where this picture from? NickB79 Aug 2012 #134

yes tiny elvis Aug 2012 #159

Are you sure? The MSM reported the Aurora shooter used a 100-rd drum magazine NickB79 Aug 2012 #179

would be strange if it were another incident tiny elvis Aug 2012 #197

The drum jammed and was found inside. shadowrider Aug 2012 #217

Ah, ok. NickB79 Aug 2012 #223

Militia definition - 5. A word determined by the Supreme Court in the Heller case to not limit an AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #100

i propose the anti-gun tiny elvis Aug 2012 #115

I am pro-control... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #124

hero fantasies tiny elvis Aug 2012 #160

What is your solution then? sarisataka Aug 2012 #162

i do not have a fantasy or plan to kill tiny elvis Aug 2012 #164

Not necessarily sarisataka Aug 2012 #168

i hope your fire drill is as detailed in your mind tiny elvis Aug 2012 #199

It is sarisataka Aug 2012 #202

"Pro-controllers.....can never wait to bathe in the blood of the victims to push their agenda." Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #143

Nope sarisataka Aug 2012 #148

Yes, us silly "controllers" always making things up and guessing. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #156

A few questions sarisataka Aug 2012 #161

And a few answers.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #185

Thank you for your reply sarisataka Aug 2012 #190

Tell ya what Tommy_Carcetti shadowrider Aug 2012 #218

Damn that common sense! Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #224

I disagree. Most of those posts were put into GD by people who rarely, if ever, shadowrider Aug 2012 #234

Well, gee.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #236

Anyone can weigh in with an opinion. Everybody has one. My point is, shadowrider Aug 2012 #240

Again, does that mean they have no validity? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #243

Actually, in some states you do have a right to hunting. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #118

Hunting isn't a right...well neither are food, clothing and shelter. spayneuter Aug 2012 #176

neither is the birth of another sophist tiny elvis Aug 2012 #203

Haha...now -that- is funny! spayneuter Aug 2012 #220

Yeah, nice try with that "one person" thing. sibelian Aug 2012 #167

There is some small game hunting for pistols (rabbit). slampoet Aug 2012 #49

My husband bow hunts Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #91

Alternate use: target practice and competitions. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #2

Are they shooting silhouette targets that represent people, or something like these guys? Hoyt Aug 2012 #8

You can't score a human silhouette. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #116

Just FYI Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #117

Are they used in official matches? NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #119

Not sure Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #120

IPSC and IPDA matches quickly come to mind. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #177

IPSC and USPSA use "scored" silhouettes. A, B, & C scoring zones. OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #150

Well, I'll tell you the same thing I tell other people who make this argument... Scootaloo Aug 2012 #181

Please explain. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #207

You know, the "target practice" argument reminds me of something when I was a kid Scootaloo Aug 2012 #209

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #210

You know some strange people Scootaloo Aug 2012 #211

Ever seen wadcutter and semi-wadcutter rounds? NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #212

I don't hate the sport, actually Scootaloo Aug 2012 #213

The only "rampant dipshittery" here is your posts NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #214

So because I think target shooting could be done with modified tools... Scootaloo Aug 2012 #215

LOL NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #216

Now define what an "assault weapon" is. derby378 Aug 2012 #3

a big scary black gun NightWatcher Aug 2012 #4

I must admit I am not knowledgable about guns. Mira Aug 2012 #6

Understood, but what you might not know is... derby378 Aug 2012 #9

Pop quiz, which of these guns in CA legal (where there is an assult weapon ban) Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #16

Okay, I'm stumped - what's the legal difference between the two lowers? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #21

I'm going to guess the magazine release krispos42 Aug 2012 #46

Nope Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #178

I thought one of them might have been missing some critical notch or something krispos42 Aug 2012 #192

My guess would be the actual brand names on them... OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #152

Brilliant! (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #154

DPMS makes the Remington R-15 deaniac21 Aug 2012 #173

well fine if you don't like those ambiguous regulations then how about this dsc Aug 2012 #50

Did you post that with a quill pen or a hand-cranked printing press? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #81

there are all types of reasonable regulation of first amendment rights dsc Aug 2012 #83

And if I want to buy a gun, I have to have a background check. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #85

No you don't dsc Aug 2012 #153

Not if you are buying from a gun dealer. hack89 Aug 2012 #163

you can buy a gun at gun shows without a backround check dsc Aug 2012 #194

From a private selller. And not in every state. hack89 Aug 2012 #198

Are all you lot this stump-ignorant? Per the Commonwealth of Massachusetts: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #191

I assume you can drive to say Vermont dsc Aug 2012 #195

I *could*, if I didn't mind breaking the law. I do, so no Green Mountain arms sales for me. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #201

Pretty sure Peepsite Aug 2012 #193

the schools have filters which block the porn and a whole lot more dsc Aug 2012 #196

Background checks don't act as a filter? Peepsite Aug 2012 #200

again all one has to do is go to a gun show and wala no backround check dsc Aug 2012 #226

Dealers at gun shows run background checks. X_Digger Aug 2012 #228

child porn is the equivalent of machine gun spayneuter Aug 2012 #221

Favorite question of gun culture's attempt to cloud the issue. Hoyt Aug 2012 #10

Admit that the only way to end debate about AWs is to ban all semi-auto long guns krispos42 Aug 2012 #47

You sound like the people who want to ban porn 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #140

No shit! friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #145

It's Whatever The NY Times Says It Is. Paladin Aug 2012 #11

Really? derby378 Aug 2012 #12

Assault weapon. Definition (journalist edition): 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #141

circumcised? tiny elvis Aug 2012 #19

(1)The militia consists of all able-bodied citizens of this state......... Edweird Aug 2012 #41

that means that these guys really are militia tiny elvis Aug 2012 #63

Unless they are precluded from military service by Federal law, yes. But so are YOU. Edweird Aug 2012 #71

i will not boast that i am so well regulated as tiny elvis Aug 2012 #78

1994 called; Newt Gingrich wants his bullshit talking points back Scootaloo Aug 2012 #182

Sorry, that's not a definition derby378 Aug 2012 #219

Yeah it is a definition. Scootaloo Aug 2012 #235

Try telling that to Washington State derby378 Aug 2012 #239

For the record, the Sikh temple shooter was armed with one handgun. cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #5

Another thing I heard in the press conference... TroglodyteScholar Aug 2012 #13

Which he bought legally, despite being dishonorably discharged from the military and having well Erose999 Aug 2012 #135

1) It wasn't a DD, and 2) Do you *really* want to go the 'watch list' route? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #137

One recent photo that proves the dishonesty (or ignorance) of the cartoon in the OP slackmaster Aug 2012 #14

I posted it in ignorance. I was clueless to predict Mira Aug 2012 #15

Now you know why there's a gungeon. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #17

Well, we certainly can not put up with any support for the Bill of Rights. spayneuter Aug 2012 #26

Re-education camps of course. How dare they invoke rDigital Aug 2012 #108

Ah, the constitutional right to spray innocent people with bullets. sibelian Aug 2012 #165

Cool straw man, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #169

Yes but not nearly as noble as letting home invaders have their way with your wife and children spayneuter Aug 2012 #175

what is with the creepy wade page type platitudes? tiny elvis Aug 2012 #110

Cool false dilemma, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #172

cool and bro are expletive tiny elvis Aug 2012 #204

Logic fail, bro. Painting yourself into a corner you are. rDigital Aug 2012 #205

yes tiny elvis Aug 2012 #208

The obvious answer is to disarm the U.S. Marines. spayneuter Aug 2012 #241

:) tiny elvis Aug 2012 #242

Can you point me to the bit in the ill of Rights that says it's okay to walk into cinemas sibelian Aug 2012 #166

Cool straw man, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #170

Cool way of trying to get your post count up "bro" n/t pkdu Aug 2012 #180

Thanks for the help! rDigital Aug 2012 #184

There is no shame in ignorance sarisataka Aug 2012 #27

There Is No Shame In Ignorance, Because The Ignorant Are Too Stupid To Be Ashamed... WillyT Aug 2012 #31

There is a big difference between ignorant and stupid sarisataka Aug 2012 #34

It Is Both Ignorant And Stupid To Own An Assault Rifle... There Is Absolutely NO Reason... WillyT Aug 2012 #39

That is a good example sarisataka Aug 2012 #42

Dude... I've Fired Assault Rifles, Street Sweepers, Etc... WillyT Aug 2012 #48

I agree sarisataka Aug 2012 #51

LOL !!! - He Wasn't Drunk At The Outset, But He Was Having Difficulty With His Gal... WillyT Aug 2012 #59

Well Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #45

Well... Jesus And Thank You Lawd... For Allowing My Opinion WillyT Aug 2012 #56

Once you get them started... ellisonz Aug 2012 #28

... Mira Aug 2012 #32

... ellisonz Aug 2012 #38

... Mira Aug 2012 #67

Don't Be... It's Just A Tactile Penis Replacement WillyT Aug 2012 #30

Do you tell women that own guns that? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #82

I Would NEVER Tell A Woman That Owned A Gun That !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #87

And what is it for those of us without a penis? obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #129

a penis tiny elvis Aug 2012 #206

It's rather difficult for many people to laugh at our own sacred cows. LanternWaste Aug 2012 #151

OK, so if you need one you should have to register it. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #127

Mira here is a short video, that explains EXACTLY what the AW ban actully did.. virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #24

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #25

not really the point. Deep13 Aug 2012 #33

A Chinese teenager sarisataka Aug 2012 #35

news to me nt Deep13 Aug 2012 #40

More Info Needed Please... WillyT Aug 2012 #43

Chinese teen kills 8, hurts 5 in knife attack sarisataka Aug 2012 #44

So one person in a billion acheives what Americans do every 4-5 months? slampoet Aug 2012 #54

far more than every 4-5 months JI7 Aug 2012 #55

Rather callous sarisataka Aug 2012 #58

You can make up accusations slampoet Aug 2012 #123

Not accusing anything sarisataka Aug 2012 #146

You Forgot To Mentioned The Injured... Or... "Shot, But Not Dead"... They Don't Count ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #61

Usually all that matters is the number of dead... sarisataka Aug 2012 #70

If You Say So... WillyT Aug 2012 #73

Never claimed sarisataka Aug 2012 #79

You Were A Marine ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #80

I did spend some time sarisataka Aug 2012 #139

they look for some rare examples and act like all the cases of gun attacks JI7 Aug 2012 #53

that's the power of NRA propaganda Skittles Aug 2012 #60

Have I Told You How Much I Love You Lately ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #64

HOWDY WILLYT Skittles Aug 2012 #66

HOWDY SKITTLES !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #72

Really? Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #74

Oh... They Are Cowards Alright... They Hide Behind Their Guns... WillyT Aug 2012 #75

Classy. Another example of *why* gun control is the success that it is... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #86

Exactly... Sex Sells... WillyT Aug 2012 #89

YES - COWARDS Skittles Aug 2012 #92

Word... WillyT Aug 2012 #93

gawd I fucking DESPISE the soldier card Skittles Aug 2012 #94

If you substitute "NAACP" for "NRA" your comment will closely resemble many I see posted on spayneuter Aug 2012 #222

Except the NAACP works in the interests of people. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #231

You've always been one of my favorite DU members, Mira. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #52

GWB. *. Was. Is. and forever will be the asshole of assholes. Now with that out of the way Mira Aug 2012 #65

You Done Great Mira... WillyT Aug 2012 #68

... Mira Aug 2012 #76

Anytime... WillyT Aug 2012 #77

Our Vice President, Joe Biden, was the major author of the AWB. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #122

Shrub offered to, it's Congress that didn't pass it. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #84

Hahahahaha!!!!!! Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #121

"President Bush says he will sign a bill renewing the assault weapons ban if Congress passes it." hack89 Aug 2012 #125

Now YOU are quoting Bush. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #130

Just pointing out that Bush was willing to extend the AWB in 2004 hack89 Aug 2012 #131

And you believed him?? Really??? Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #132

Argument by smilies? OK. hack89 Aug 2012 #133

Here's (1) a simple visual to clarify a problem and (2) a Bill Clinton analysis AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #88

You do realize people hunt with AR platform rifles, rad51 Aug 2012 #90

That Ain't Hunting... That's Slaughter... WillyT Aug 2012 #95

In most states... Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #98

I guess you don't understand how a semiautomatic operates or rad51 Aug 2012 #99

No... Hunting With A Semi-Automatic Is Silly... And Cowardly.. WillyT Aug 2012 #101

Explain the difference between hunting with a ar platform with a 5 round mag and a 100 yr old mosin rad51 Aug 2012 #103

Well In The Era I Grew Up In...It Was All About A Single Shot... WillyT Aug 2012 #107

Please answer the question. No insults this time please. rad51 Aug 2012 #109

He *is* just chockablock with cool stories, isn't he? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #142

Are you 120 years old? Semi-auto guns have been used for hunting for a century NickB79 Aug 2012 #126

I don't believe for an instant your "era" was all about single-shot firearms. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #155

well they will just have to make do with a bit less firepower. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #128

A traditional "hunting rifle" bullet has much more power than a AR-15 round hack89 Aug 2012 #136

And the AR round has less recoil and is lighter and more compact and less expensive. Intermediate Erose999 Aug 2012 #144

And yet rifles and shotguns of all kinds are the least likely murder weapon hack89 Aug 2012 #147

Hands, feet, knives, and baseball bats are all multi-purpose tools. An Assault Rifle is a unitasker. Erose999 Aug 2012 #157

But if saving the most lives is the goal hack89 Aug 2012 #158

People are murdered with bare hands and feet rDigital Aug 2012 #96

Sources? nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #187

FBI's UCR, table 8 (at least in recent years) X_Digger Aug 2012 #189

Nice try. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #225

Did you not see the post you responded to? #96? X_Digger Aug 2012 #227

Except it's all part of the same conversation. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #229

"some sort of firearm" isn't what this thread is about- "assault weapons" is the subject at hand. X_Digger Aug 2012 #230

If that's how you want to limit the conversation, then there's a question begging to be asked. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #232

The *criminal* use of these rifles is rare. There, fixed it for you. X_Digger Aug 2012 #233

Well, obviously an AR-15 *could* be used for sport or hunting purposes. It is a gun, after all. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #237

All 'hunting gunz' derive their origin from a previous military weapon. X_Digger Aug 2012 #238

Common? Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #97

Remember, Europe is not some peaceful oasis. rDigital Aug 2012 #102

No! NRA propaganda! Impossible! The only reason prohibition doesn't work is that Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #105

And just as it was looking really good for the Democrats... Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #104

Simple visual that clarifies why the Assault Weapons Ban renewal is a no-brainer. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #106

But assault weapons make weak people feel strong, powerful, JDPriestly Aug 2012 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author rad51 Aug 2012 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author rad51 Aug 2012 #113

Funny Thing canEHdian Aug 2012 #114

Funny, you can buy an AR-15, AK-47 and other semi-auto "assault" guns in Canada. rDigital Aug 2012 #149

Hunting, self defense, target practice . . . 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #138

the gundeon must be deserted spanone Aug 2012 #171

Ban is a non-starter One_Life_To_Give Aug 2012 #174

Wood chippers are a common murder weapon? Scootaloo Aug 2012 #183

You ever see Fargo? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #186

Here's the thing.... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #188