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lapfog_1

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11. so I have this idea for a different type of oxygen concentrator
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 05:55 AM
Jul 2018

that doesn't depend on filters.

Someone here smarter than me can tell me that it's either a) impossible or b) impracticable

We need three elements... a battery or electrical source, a fuel cell, and a regenerative fuel cell

The fuel cell combines Hydrogen and Oxygen to produce water plus electricity
The regenerative fuel cell takes water plus electricity to produce hydrogen and oxygen

For the first reaction we use oxygen from the atmosphere (air) plus hydrogen from the second reaction
The second reaction uses stored water (taken from the first reaction plus storage) and provides the oxygen to the user and hydrogen to the first reaction
The battery is needed because this is not a perpetual motion (infinite reaction) system... the electricity from the first reaction will not be sufficient to completely power the second reaction.

So... battery... and refill the water tank occasionally.

Fuel cells of both types exist... the rest is just plumbing and wiring. Don't know if the volume of pure oxygen generated from such a system would be sufficient to meet the needs of both portability and cost (fuel cells aren't cheap). Haven't worked out the math of the size of the battery or fuel cells required.

The result of such a system is one where oxygen is taken from the atmosphere and combined with hydrogen to form water... water is essentially electrolyzied at low temperature and low pressure to make pure oxygen for the consumer plus the hydrogen that goes back into the system to make more water (instead of bleeding it off into the atmosphere).

random thought.

Breathing by Permission [View all] madamesilverspurs Jul 2018 OP
Oh, dear. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #1
It's not the tanks, it's the oxygen concentrator machines. Hugin Jul 2018 #3
The OP seems to have conflated oxygen tanks with oxygen concentrator machines. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #7
OP isn't conflating anything cyclonefence Jul 2018 #13
Wall Street has turned breathing into a commodity. Hugin Jul 2018 #2
And I thought I had it bad, it's appalling how basic functions are commoditized SemiHalfling Jul 2018 #4
+100 KT2000 Jul 2018 #5
I have used oxygen concentrators for 17 years Hamlette Jul 2018 #6
Crazy. madamesilverspurs Jul 2018 #15
wow! lampworking 30 years ago, you were a pioneer. Hamlette Jul 2018 #16
Meanwhile, Scarsdale Jul 2018 #8
Perhaps you should call your doctor PatSeg Jul 2018 #9
Same sort of thing going on with CPAPs spinbaby Jul 2018 #10
so I have this idea for a different type of oxygen concentrator lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #11
so much is so wrong right now... handmade34 Jul 2018 #12
Ebay has some cyclonefence Jul 2018 #14
My husband is on oxygen too, and frogmarch Jul 2018 #17
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