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Garrett78

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13. It's really unfortunate that Social Democracy and socialism have been conflated.

Wed Aug 1, 2018, 02:30 AM

Aug 2018

They aren't the same thing. When people call themselves Democratic Socialists but promote the Nordic Model of Social Democracy (which is not socialism), they come across as being confused--and they confuse others in the process. To the detriment of their cause.

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Which wing of the Democratic Party do you feel fits you the closest? [View all] Quixote1818 Aug 2018 OP

I personally think of myself as somewhere between Blue Dog & Centrist - However... Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #1

Deadwood? radical noodle Aug 2018 #3

I'm suggesting primaries are part of the political ecological cycle Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #92

I agree with that radical noodle Aug 2018 #96

Baby boomers are dying off vlyons Aug 2018 #11

Yes! FM123 Aug 2018 #58

Hey, I'm 60 RobinA Aug 2018 #88

According to those who track such things, Millenials will be the biggest voting bloc Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #91

I'm a centrist on a few things radical noodle Aug 2018 #2

Libertarian to me seems like an anathema to the Democratic Party. rusty quoin Aug 2018 #4

I think you are absolutely correct! tonyt53 Aug 2018 #51

I would categorize democratic socialist and progressive as pretty much the same thing. RDANGELO Aug 2018 #5

Me too. Liberals, progressives, and democratic socialists want the same things. rusty quoin Aug 2018 #7

I don't really understand the difference between "liberal" and "progressive"... jcgoldie Aug 2018 #6

Let me try. I was confused too. I read an article about a decade ago. rusty quoin Aug 2018 #9

But these days I often see liberals called the establishment, which means working within the betsuni Aug 2018 #20

YOUR definition is spot on. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #54

In the 1980s and 1990s Limbaugh demonized the term 'liberal' appalachiablue Aug 2018 #90

I am in canada. Our wings are to the left of yours. applegrove Aug 2018 #8

Good offering of perspective. This poll seems to suggest Hortensis Aug 2018 #69

Oh we have much in common with the left in the US. I'm just sad we elected applegrove Aug 2018 #93

Democrats are America's big left party, Applegrove, Hortensis Aug 2018 #94

I'm a pragmatist. Centrism, to me, is simply the practical stance struggle4progress Aug 2018 #10

I'm just a Democrat. NanceGreggs Aug 2018 #12

YES ! Of course ! Sinistrous Aug 2018 #15

What she said. Period. Silver Gaia Aug 2018 #21

Out of many, one. n/t ariadne0614 Aug 2018 #29

About 15 years ago, the MSM tried to pin down a friend on this very question DFW Aug 2018 #43

Thank you for saying this! Oh, and "hell YES". tonyt53 Aug 2018 #52

Yes, yes, yes... N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2018 #57

You speak for me, too. we can do it Aug 2018 #64

I'm with her. nt TeamPooka Aug 2018 #99

It's really unfortunate that Social Democracy and socialism have been conflated. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #13

It varies by the issue Kaleva Aug 2018 #14

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #16

Which definition of "liberal" are you using? DetlefK Aug 2018 #17

By "old-timey" do you mean classical? lapucelle Aug 2018 #38

I meant classical. DetlefK Aug 2018 #40

That's the general problems with labels, especially in a country lapucelle Aug 2018 #45

Is it my imagination, or is all this talk about wings of the Democratic Party a new thing? betsuni Aug 2018 #18

yes, it's new Demovictory9 Aug 2018 #26

Thank you. betsuni Aug 2018 #27

No - it's not Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #98

And just in time for the midterms. Squinch Aug 2018 #35

I think the categories are agenda driven in some cases. lapucelle Aug 2018 #44

+1 nt Skidmore Aug 2018 #62

The "ain't no more time for factions" faction Afromania Aug 2018 #19

Excellent post! My thoughts exactly. NT Docreed2003 Aug 2018 #39

Proud socialist here. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #22

The Democratic wing unc70 Aug 2018 #23

+1 geardaddy Aug 2018 #81

How about"we've got to win" roscoeroscoe Aug 2018 #24

This! Squinch Aug 2018 #32

Because running a bunch of centrists across the country has sure worked out Quixote1818 Aug 2018 #37

yes qazplm135 Aug 2018 #59

Where I live, I'm with the one with a D behind their name who made it on the ballot. herding cats Aug 2018 #25

Well said! While I'm not sure if I'm quite as left as you... WePurrsevere Aug 2018 #36

I'm a democrat plain and simple. blueinredohio Aug 2018 #28

Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists are two different things...nt SidDithers Aug 2018 #30

Indeed Chris Studio Aug 2018 #34

Staaaaaaaaaahp! Squinch Aug 2018 #31

Agreed. Iggo Aug 2018 #87

I'm for Chris Studio Aug 2018 #33

The people's front of judea or the judean people's front? Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #41

Splitter!! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #46

Ah, Monty Python empedocles Aug 2018 #48

Yes! .... "but you are the messiah and i should know i've followed a few" Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #50

+1 geardaddy Aug 2018 #79

I see no difference between liberal and socialist. ananda Aug 2018 #42

I would like to congratulate you on posting such a divisive thread Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #47

+1...nt SidDithers Aug 2018 #49

At least one of these is popping up daily. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #53

True Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2018 #56

+1 nt Skidmore Aug 2018 #61

And misleading poll that in no way actually Hortensis Aug 2018 #63

Showing we have a big tent is divisive? Quixote1818 Aug 2018 #66

Slicing, dicing, labeling, sorting, classifying . . . . Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #73

I'm from the wing which wants to help people SkyDancer Aug 2018 #55

You left out us vile third way technocratic neoliberal scum Recursion Aug 2018 #60

Democratic Party "factions" as delineated by multiple, agenda-driven Wiki editors. lapucelle Aug 2018 #65

The Democratic Wing. MineralMan Aug 2018 #67

A 2016 version of the Wiki article cited includes "convicted felons" as a part of our base. lapucelle Aug 2018 #68

I'm a Democrat. spicysista Aug 2018 #70

On December 26, 2017, an editorial shift begins with the addition of Democratic Socialist lapucelle Aug 2018 #71

3, 5, 6 n/t demmiblue Aug 2018 #72

I chose progressive. Blue_true Aug 2018 #74

The pragmatic wing Fresh_Start Aug 2018 #75

I'm a Democrat. Trying to fit us into "factions" is divisive The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #76

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2018 #77

Whoever's getting out the vote. n/t Orsino Aug 2018 #78

Ah...the "Committed to Doing Grunt Work Every Year to Elect Democrats" wing. lapucelle Aug 2018 #80

I am a member of the Democratic Party. This serves only to divide us. Been there done that. 33taw Aug 2018 #82

It is a big tent party. I vote for the most left primary candidate, then enthusiastically GOTV for emulatorloo Aug 2018 #83

other JustAnotherGen Aug 2018 #84

Something with that many wings won't fly brooklynite Aug 2018 #85

Votes for Democrats and Votes in Every Election wing. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2018 #86

Yellow Dog Democrat, every election, all the way down the ballot. VOX Aug 2018 #89

I'm a Democrat! Adrahil Aug 2018 #95

I think these categories are meaningless to an individual Starry Messenger Aug 2018 #97

Im in good company if Im with H2O Man!! JonLP24 Aug 2018 #100

Nooooot playing this game. defacto7 Aug 2018 #101

The Democratic wing is good enough for me. n/t TygrBright Aug 2018 #102