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Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 09:20 AM Aug 2018

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez perfectly shuts down Ben Shapiro's pesky challenge to debate [View all]



Conservative and notorious racist Ben Shapiro is apparently, like many right-wing commentators, obsessed with New York Democratic congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and so he decided this week to offer a $10,000 donation to her campaign in exchange for having a debate.

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"Just like catcalling, I don’t owe a response to unsolicited requests from men with bad intentions," she said of the demands that she debate Shapiro. "And also like catcalling, for some reason they feel entitled to one."

The brief comment exposed a lot about the reaction to Ocasio-Cortez's candidacy. Since she won her district primary race in a stunning upset, Ocasio-Cortez has drawn extensive criticism from the right — completely out of proportion to the attention paid to the hundreds of other congressional candidates across the country.

The tweet points out the gendered dimension of this attention. As a young woman candidate for national office, many people expect her to earn her place in a way that older, more established (and usually male) candidates are never expected to. There seems to be a misogynistic assumption that, because she's a woman, she needs to justify her candidacy in some special way — especially when it's a man who is making the demand.

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https://www.salon.com/2018/08/10/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-shuts-down-ben-shapiro-and-his-calls-for-a-debate_partner/




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I thought we were supposed to support Democrats on this site? OrwellwasRight Aug 2018 #10
We should be honest. Ocasio needs to avoid debate. Hortensis Aug 2018 #14
No, she's great. OrwellwasRight Aug 2018 #16
She has a talent for being on stage. That should not Hortensis Aug 2018 #24
Are you always this dubious of first time candidates? OrwellwasRight Aug 2018 #29
Orwell, hopefully she'll turn out to be a great politician. Hortensis Aug 2018 #32
No, the failure of OrwellwasRight Aug 2018 #60
Did you see her the other day on CNN? In discussing the cost of healthcare... George II Aug 2018 #47
Can you name any political candidate in U.S. history that debated or was EXPECTED to debate a pundit Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #18
Uncle Joe, she's made a number of stupid mistakes, Hortensis Aug 2018 #25
Hortensis, you never answered my question. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #28
The issue I address is competence, not just Hortensis Aug 2018 #36
Alexandria is perfectly suited for the House should she be elected, if she is not Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #40
Thank you - I would have said the same if I had enough erudition. erronis Aug 2018 #56
Thank you for the kind words erronis. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #58
+1 OrwellwasRight Aug 2018 #72
No she hasn't melman Aug 2018 #35
I'm not sure, but didn't Sanders debate a news person (pundit) earlier this year? George II Aug 2018 #48
Interviews and debates are NOT the same, the vast majority of candidates and politicians Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #49
I know the definitions of interviews and debates, thank you! George II Aug 2018 #52
You mean there were no debates in 2016? Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #53
None that matched your highlighted definition of "debate". George II Aug 2018 #54
I agree that Presidential debates could use major improvement in regards to their moderation Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #55
Candidates should debate, but he's not a candidate elias7 Aug 2018 #19
:) Yes. And I'm not going to regret that she has Hortensis Aug 2018 #26
nobody expects candidates to debate random wealthy opposition activists fishwax Aug 2018 #31
'It would be a very risky move at best' melman Aug 2018 #33
"...unschooled on almost every issue?" Merlot Aug 2018 #34
I think she'd be fine against that fucking moron Ben Shapiro RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #38
Apparently that isn't a hard and fast rule Bettie Aug 2018 #43
This site is becoming less and less likable every time I visit. OrwellwasRight Aug 2018 #61
There is still a LOT of good Bettie Aug 2018 #64
LOL. No it wasn't it was great RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #37
I thought it was a great response as well nt backtoblue Aug 2018 #46
I thought it was shrewd MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #41
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2018 #2
I agree H2O Man Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #3
Right wing media MichMary Aug 2018 #4
She's running for office. H2O Man Aug 2018 #5
Job 1 is her district. Not debate with a fool dembotoz Aug 2018 #6
Years ago, H2O Man Aug 2018 #8
Hurricane Carter? oberliner Aug 2018 #62
Yes. H2O Man Aug 2018 #65
That is amazing that you knew him oberliner Aug 2018 #68
We were H2O Man Aug 2018 #69
They both should be required reading oberliner Aug 2018 #70
I can't wait for all the Republican candidates to start debating progressive radio hosts. Nanjeanne Aug 2018 #9
It's the right wing media that's afraid of Alexandria but even more so the message Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #11
debating Schapiro would give HIM a platform bigtree Aug 2018 #15
Well said. H2O Man Aug 2018 #17
Precisely bigtree and that skid mark on the nation's underwear doesn't need another platform Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #20
Debating him is waste of time standingtall Aug 2018 #23
Shapiro is a clown melman Aug 2018 #39
I don't listen to RWers snd neither does she MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #42
If her Opponent asks her to debate Bettie Aug 2018 #44
It's insane that this is even a thing. And disappointing to know there are ppl who Nanjeanne Aug 2018 #7
I agree on all counts Nanjeanne. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #12
" H2O Man Aug 2018 #13
She really gets under the skins of both republican incels and angry shut-ins. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #59
Isn't she heavily favored to win her district? ooky Aug 2018 #21
Yes she is and I agree pundit to pundit debates could be most useful Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #27
I agree, she is too intelligent and focused on the task ahead to be side tracked. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #30
welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2018 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #57
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a welcome breath of fresh air. Thank you, Uncle Joe. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2018 #50
She is and thank you Judi Lynn. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #51
What makes Shapiro think she would ever need to debate him? Autumn Aug 2018 #63
He's a legend in his own mind. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #66
His very small mind. Autumn Aug 2018 #67
Lol. Good one, I chuckled, but ecstatic Aug 2018 #71
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