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babylonsister

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Fri Sep 7, 2018, 07:38 AM Sep 2018

'Fahrenheit 11/9': Michael Moore Exposes Trump, The New York Times and Establishment Democrats [View all]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fahrenheit-119-michael-moore-exposes-trump-the-new-york-times-and-establishment-democrats?ref=home

‘Fahrenheit 11/9’: Michael Moore Exposes Trump, The New York Times and Establishment Democrats
The new documentary, which premiered at TIFF, is a sprawling polemical collage that’s less about Trump and more about how to build a progressive future.
Natalia Winkelman
09.07.18 4:41 AM ET


Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 11/9 opens with the word “Hillary.” It ends in silence. The in-between includes Hitler and Rashida Tlaib, Michigan Governor Rick Snyder and West Virginia high school teachers, Bernie Sanders and The New York Times.

It’s a surprise to report that a lot of the film, which had its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival last night, catches you by surprise—not only because of the deja vu didacticism of so many contemporary political docs, but also because, by now, we think we know Moore’s shtick. Even Trump seemed to have an inkling as to what he would look like under Moore’s microscope: Back in 1998, in the green room of The Roseanne Show, Trump allegedly praised Moore’s work before expressing his hope that Moore never make one on him.

More so than many of his previous films, Fahrenheit 11/9 is a sprawling collage of a polemic, careening from issue to issue with little regard for transitions. When segues do come, they spring out of Moore’s rascally voiceover, which canopies the film with his familiar brand of wit, fervor and infectious lefty idealism. There’s also a distinct sense of self-awareness to this one, along with what feel like deliberate measures to cut against pedagogy and moralizing. This feeling comes to a head in the movie’s final sequence, which hits so suddenly and unexpectedly you’ll be a little sore from the whiplash.

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Yet overall, the documentary, in all its messy tangents, actually spends a minority of its time on Trump. Indeed, Moore’s best zingers and most penetrating indictments land on the Democratic Party, whom he implicates (along with dominant liberal news media) as part of an establishment system continually churning in place to maintain the status quo and impede forward movement. He even calls out Obama on a few occasions: for letting down the people of Flint, for accepting Goldman Sachs money, for deporting immigrants, for drone strikes. But best of all, Moore acknowledges and emphasizes that he himself is not totally free from that establishment either. “The best thing my generation did was raise you all,” he marvels to a Parkland teen in one scene. Her sharp reply: “On the contrary: social media raised us.”

Vagueness and clutter distract from the cogency of Moore’s points on several occasions, and the frenetic pace makes it constantly difficult to keep up. But by the end, he’s stuffed so many tangled tangents in there that the documentary’s impassioned spirit and impact as a whole outweigh the less convincing bits.

“How the fuck did this happen?” Moore demands in voiceover toward the beginning of the film, following a melodramatic election night montage. It’s a question that he only partially gets around to addressing, but no matter. We know the real question he’s striving to confront: What the fuck do we do now?

He might not have the answer, but he can introduce you to a few people who do.
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Oh those evil "establishment democrats!" johnp3907 Sep 2018 #1
Thank You, John! Blame it all Obama as usual.. Cha Sep 2018 #2
I agree with you here... Trueblue Texan Sep 2018 #7
Gee, how on earth can I look myself in the mirror Hortensis Sep 2018 #27
The whiners are whiny! RandiFan1290 Sep 2018 #3
All you have are your usual insults Cha Sep 2018 #5
I'll see anything MM puts out. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2018 #4
Just waiting until Michael Moore gets a show on Russia Today. In 3... 2... 1... (nt) FreepFryer Sep 2018 #6
I posted this in a similar thread, but I think I will reproduce it here still_one Sep 2018 #8
Thank You for nailing Michael Moore, Cha Sep 2018 #9
I agree Cha still_one Sep 2018 #22
It only requires some basic intelligence and a smidgen of empathy to see what a great President.. Cha Sep 2018 #51
Thank you Cha, I needed that. 🤗 arthritisR_US Sep 2018 #31
I forgive him for 2000 - so there lame54 Sep 2018 #13
It's not really about forgiveness BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #15
always got the sense Moore was jealous of Obama Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2018 #25
he also pushes the economic anxiety bs which we all know was really about racism and other bigotry JI7 Sep 2018 #26
that's a great breakdown of Moore's recent history BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #43
Excellent point.👍 arthritisR_US Sep 2018 #32
The reason I don't is because he is back to his old diversionary bullshit, and doing this right still_one Sep 2018 #23
and this around the same time of the last midterms JI7 Sep 2018 #30
Thank you. Michael can always sniff out a dollar. $$$$$ Tarheel_Dem Sep 2018 #17
And kill a Democratic candidate in the process. FU MM. arthritisR_US Sep 2018 #33
I just hope progressives are much smarter this time around. We can't afford the Michael Moores & Tarheel_Dem Sep 2018 #39
I wonder if MM will do a flip-flop right before the elections and support Democrats. betsuni Sep 2018 #40
After his stunt in 2000, I'm just surprised that so many still fall for his crap. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2018 #49
$50 million dollar man railing against the establishment... Scurrilous Sep 2018 #10
I don't care how babylonsister Sep 2018 #12
Same here mountain grammy Sep 2018 #19
This guy has been very rich for a long time... lame54 Sep 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #16
Moore doesn't need to worry with his FU $$$$$$$$ and he could give Cha Sep 2018 #20
While that may be, his divorce, or even if there are large sums of money involved has really nothing still_one Sep 2018 #24
FO Moore! workinclasszero Sep 2018 #11
Fuck Michael Moore, and the piece of shit film he rode in on. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2018 #18
so its up brettdale Sep 2018 #21
no, it's up to Robert Mueller JI7 Sep 2018 #28
"He was the first black president. OK, not a bad accomplishment. But that's it." JI7 Sep 2018 #29
Ugh, I forgot about that. betsuni Sep 2018 #35
I never saw that stupidity from Moore before. BS was for the Cha Sep 2018 #47
What a jealous, spiteful bastard he is BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #44
Moore does sounds like a jealous mean thing. No fucking wonder Cha Sep 2018 #46
Wait till 2020 BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #54
Yeah, Moore has his followers who don't seem to know or Cha Sep 2018 #56
That right there shows what a Fucking Disgusting Disgrace Michael Cha Sep 2018 #45
What will be Moore's accomplishment? Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2018 #48
President Obama won 2008 and 2012 even though BS Cha Sep 2018 #50
worst possible timing for this steve2470 Sep 2018 #34
He is and always will be someone who sabatoged Al Gore in 2000 YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #36
+++ JHan Sep 2018 #38
nope. JHan Sep 2018 #37
Establishment? JustAnotherGen Sep 2018 #41
I have been waiting impatiently to see this! MuseRider Sep 2018 #42
Here we go RandySF Sep 2018 #52
He's mad because his guy didn't win the MI primary RandySF Sep 2018 #53
Michael Moore is always on target. shanny Sep 2018 #55
Michael Moore is BullShit on target. Cha Sep 2018 #57
I will wait to form an opinion until I see it for myself. OhioBlue Sep 2018 #58
Oy. Well, I saw his other films. Won't be seeing this one. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #59
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