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BannonsLiver

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Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:59 AM Sep 2018

"Fahrenheit 11/9': Michael Moore Exposes Trump, The New York Times and Establishment Democrats" [View all]

Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 11/9 opens with the word “Hillary.” It ends in silence. The in-between includes Hitler and Rashida Tlaib, Michigan Governor Rick Snyder and West Virginia high school teachers, Bernie Sanders and The New York Times.

It’s a surprise to report that a lot of the film, which had its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival last night, catches you by surprise—not only because of the deja vu didacticism of so many contemporary political docs, but also because, by now, we think we know Moore’s shtick. Even Trump seemed to have an inkling as to what he would look like under Moore’s microscope: Back in 1998, on The Roseanne Show, Trump allegedly praised Moore’s work before expressing his hope that Moore never make one on him.

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Indeed, Moore’s best zingers and most penetrating indictments land on the Democratic Party, whom he implicates (along with dominant liberal news media) as part of an establishment system continually churning in place to maintain the status quo and impede forward movement. He even calls out Obama on a few occasions: for letting down the people of Flint, for accepting Goldman Sachs money, for deporting immigrants, for drone strikes. But best of all, Moore acknowledges and emphasizes that he himself is not totally free from that establishment either. “The best thing my generation did was raise you all,” he marvels to a Parkland teen in one scene. Her sharp reply: “On the contrary: social media raised us.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fahrenheit-119-michael-moore-exposes-trump-the-new-york-times-and-establishment-democrats?ref=home

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I can't stand him. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #1
Yeah, this one is going to be a hard pass for me as well BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #3
really couldn't put it better myself +++ JHan Sep 2018 #5
He's totally lost the plot. And... NurseJackie Sep 2018 #6
Yep, all true. BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #8
Solution: make such criticisms so baseless in the future that they can be summarily dealt with. JCanete Sep 2018 #19
Yes, true. BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #21
Sure, disaffected voters on the left isn't a good thing. I'll repeat, we shouldn't give criticisms JCanete Sep 2018 #22
Of course BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #23
There may be some truth to that. I will say that what I do want, even when I don't agree with the JCanete Sep 2018 #24
That thread title oughta go over big here BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #2
Yes, about as well when Moore's last film predicted Trump would win...we need to absorb the Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #13
Moore in Trumpland was, as it turned out, the most brilliant pre-election statement of them all BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #14
Trumpland made me angry before I watched it...and then it made me scared...and I guess that is Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #17
Historical precedents indicated the likelihood of a Republican President.. JHan Sep 2018 #34
I'm looking forward to seeing it also. Owl Sep 2018 #41
DU Jury duty ought to be "fun" (not) when that comes out--that's all I will say. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #4
Say NO to his divide and conquer... no matter how subtle Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #7
Moore qazplm135 Sep 2018 #9
Michael Moore: " OBAMA WASN'T PERFECT !!! Trump who ?!!?" That shit was old 10 years ago uponit7771 Sep 2018 #10
F**K you Michael Moore, you phony asshole. You were right out there during still_one Sep 2018 #11
Wow I hadn't seen that clip with Judd BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #12
At a time that Democrats need unity more than ever before the midterms, Moore is up to his still_one Sep 2018 #15
I think it will go over like a lead balloon, tbh BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #16
I hope so, because we really need to win at least one of the Houses in the midterms still_one Sep 2018 #20
The mid-terms will turn out great BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #36
Moore is going to tell his audience things they already know... brooklynite Sep 2018 #18
Agreed. Moore appeals to a very small slice of people. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #26
Never have understood the appeal of this guy. WhiskeyWulf Sep 2018 #25
His appeal initially was Roger and Me BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #35
so how many ppl here have actually seen the movie yet? nt msongs Sep 2018 #27
I haven't seen Clinton Cash, or any of the RWNJ docs on Obama either. BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #28
Without introspection and constructive criticism realmirage Sep 2018 #29
And what is constructive about blaming President Obama for problems with a municipal water supply? BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #30
Don't get into the weeds realmirage Sep 2018 #31
Oh, there's more than that. BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #32
I answered it realmirage Sep 2018 #33
"no such thing as constructive criticism" quoth a DUer shanny Sep 2018 #38
More false equivalency and whataboutism BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #39
is that the best you can do? lol shanny Sep 2018 #40
Heresy! Crunchy Frog Sep 2018 #37
Sentence and lynching first, watch the film later! Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #42
I no longer pay attention to him Gothmog Sep 2018 #43
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