Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
58. I will wait to form an opinion until I see it for myself.
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 12:54 AM
Sep 2018

I think Moore has been characterized unfairly on DU. A lot of people bring up 2000 but don't point out how he recognized his mistake and in 2004 begged Ralph Nader not to run and take votes away from Kerry.

And, while I absolutely LOVE Pres O and think he is the best of my lifetime, I also can recognize that no person is perfect. I do remember a friend's husband that was deported under O and I felt it was unfair. We have to be able to reflect honestly.

As far as Moore as a film maker, I remember one of the last scenes in "Capitalism, a Love Story" (and btw - I do disagree with him on some things in the film), where he unearthed a clip of FDR dictating a second Bill of Rights. I cried at that scene. The Second Bill of Rights would have made such a difference in our Country had it been adopted. I wish our national dialogue included FDR's second Bill of Rights very prominently. It would be a guiding principle, an ethical and moral compass and would have changed the trajectory of our National conversation.

Nothing in Michael Moore's past leads me to think he is an enemy or someone to be scorned by the Dem Party. There are decisions and statements we may disagree and a shitload of stuff taken out of context, but he is an ally even if many don't see it. As far as this film, I will wait to make a judgement until I see it for myself.

Oh those evil "establishment democrats!" johnp3907 Sep 2018 #1
Thank You, John! Blame it all Obama as usual.. Cha Sep 2018 #2
I agree with you here... Trueblue Texan Sep 2018 #7
Gee, how on earth can I look myself in the mirror Hortensis Sep 2018 #27
The whiners are whiny! RandiFan1290 Sep 2018 #3
All you have are your usual insults Cha Sep 2018 #5
I'll see anything MM puts out. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2018 #4
Just waiting until Michael Moore gets a show on Russia Today. In 3... 2... 1... (nt) FreepFryer Sep 2018 #6
I posted this in a similar thread, but I think I will reproduce it here still_one Sep 2018 #8
Thank You for nailing Michael Moore, Cha Sep 2018 #9
I agree Cha still_one Sep 2018 #22
It only requires some basic intelligence and a smidgen of empathy to see what a great President.. Cha Sep 2018 #51
Thank you Cha, I needed that. 🤗 arthritisR_US Sep 2018 #31
I forgive him for 2000 - so there lame54 Sep 2018 #13
It's not really about forgiveness BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #15
always got the sense Moore was jealous of Obama Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2018 #25
he also pushes the economic anxiety bs which we all know was really about racism and other bigotry JI7 Sep 2018 #26
that's a great breakdown of Moore's recent history BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #43
Excellent point.👍 arthritisR_US Sep 2018 #32
The reason I don't is because he is back to his old diversionary bullshit, and doing this right still_one Sep 2018 #23
and this around the same time of the last midterms JI7 Sep 2018 #30
Thank you. Michael can always sniff out a dollar. $$$$$ Tarheel_Dem Sep 2018 #17
And kill a Democratic candidate in the process. FU MM. arthritisR_US Sep 2018 #33
I just hope progressives are much smarter this time around. We can't afford the Michael Moores & Tarheel_Dem Sep 2018 #39
I wonder if MM will do a flip-flop right before the elections and support Democrats. betsuni Sep 2018 #40
After his stunt in 2000, I'm just surprised that so many still fall for his crap. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2018 #49
$50 million dollar man railing against the establishment... Scurrilous Sep 2018 #10
I don't care how babylonsister Sep 2018 #12
Same here mountain grammy Sep 2018 #19
This guy has been very rich for a long time... lame54 Sep 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #16
Moore doesn't need to worry with his FU $$$$$$$$ and he could give Cha Sep 2018 #20
While that may be, his divorce, or even if there are large sums of money involved has really nothing still_one Sep 2018 #24
FO Moore! workinclasszero Sep 2018 #11
Fuck Michael Moore, and the piece of shit film he rode in on. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2018 #18
so its up brettdale Sep 2018 #21
no, it's up to Robert Mueller JI7 Sep 2018 #28
"He was the first black president. OK, not a bad accomplishment. But that's it." JI7 Sep 2018 #29
Ugh, I forgot about that. betsuni Sep 2018 #35
I never saw that stupidity from Moore before. BS was for the Cha Sep 2018 #47
What a jealous, spiteful bastard he is BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #44
Moore does sounds like a jealous mean thing. No fucking wonder Cha Sep 2018 #46
Wait till 2020 BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #54
Yeah, Moore has his followers who don't seem to know or Cha Sep 2018 #56
That right there shows what a Fucking Disgusting Disgrace Michael Cha Sep 2018 #45
What will be Moore's accomplishment? Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2018 #48
President Obama won 2008 and 2012 even though BS Cha Sep 2018 #50
worst possible timing for this steve2470 Sep 2018 #34
He is and always will be someone who sabatoged Al Gore in 2000 YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #36
+++ JHan Sep 2018 #38
nope. JHan Sep 2018 #37
Establishment? JustAnotherGen Sep 2018 #41
I have been waiting impatiently to see this! MuseRider Sep 2018 #42
Here we go RandySF Sep 2018 #52
He's mad because his guy didn't win the MI primary RandySF Sep 2018 #53
Michael Moore is always on target. shanny Sep 2018 #55
Michael Moore is BullShit on target. Cha Sep 2018 #57
I will wait to form an opinion until I see it for myself. OhioBlue Sep 2018 #58
Oy. Well, I saw his other films. Won't be seeing this one. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #59
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»'Fahrenheit 11/9': Michae...»Reply #58