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Totally Tunsie

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31. I had a similar situation when I was hired by a defense contractor in CA.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 01:44 PM
Sep 2018

Had to fill out very extensive paperwork, asking questions regarding every phase of my life. During the time of the actual background check, I - along with all other new hires - sat in a barren airplane hangar outfitted with only folding tables and chairs for however long it took for the clearance to be approved. This period was known as "Deep Freeze", during which we reported daily as if for work and we received our full pay for virtually doing nothing. We were allowed to bring books and talk among ourselves, and were escorted to the cafeteria in a supervised group. In my case, clearance took four months due to the fact that my family's far removed background extended into Poland. The day a clearance comes through is as exciting as a graduation.

I heard from friends, neighbors, and former teachers in my hometown, 3,000 mile away, that the investigators had interviewed them all, and also went to others in the neighborhood who I did not know and did not name. The reason for these interviews was not disclosed to them, so it was a concern for many that I had somehow gotten myself into a federal mess. I had just married, moved across the country, and was just settling in. They were relieved when I gave them the explanation.

About 8 months later, I was again informed that I was being re-investigated, which was unknown even to me. It turned out I was being granted a higher clearance for a new assignment - Top Secret Special Access Required - and further information was necessary.

It was an interesting process to be sure. I'd certainly expect that this level of scrutiny would be applied to anyone being considered to be in charge of the major offices of our country. It still stuns me that the President, VP and members of Congress aren't required to have security clearances and undergo this type of investigation. They can do more damage to this country in an hour than I could in a lifetime.

He apparently has had 6 FBI background checks forthemiddle Sep 2018 #1
There are different types of background checks - I underwent a background check like MM HipChick Sep 2018 #2
Yes. A lot of background checks just look at public records. MineralMan Sep 2018 #4
Probably how mine happened... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #5
You'd think so. Weird. MineralMan Sep 2018 #8
I got out in '77... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #10
Well, that's true enough. MineralMan Sep 2018 #13
Unless your records have been declassified, Cold War Spook Sep 2018 #46
The Language school and clearance status (up to a point) MineralMan Sep 2018 #54
It seems apparent that rich white Republican males... dchill Sep 2018 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #28
Apparently they didn't ask the right questions, then. MineralMan Sep 2018 #3
"Obviously this allegation never came up before." MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #7
He is a gambling addict prick tied to the same criminals rump is Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #12
Just Thinking Out Loud bitterross Sep 2018 #6
No. A SCOTUS appointee can be disqualified by even Hortensis Sep 2018 #9
I think you meant "A Democratic SCOTUS appointee..." bitterross Sep 2018 #14
:) Boy, are the rules different. I meant "SHOULD be Hortensis Sep 2018 #62
I was checked by DOE security as well at140 Sep 2018 #11
My older brother held some kind of security clearance at various points in his working life. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #15
Well, in my case, it was long enough ago that there was still MineralMan Sep 2018 #16
My brother was getting his clearances starting in the early 70s. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #18
Really, they weren't concerned about family members MineralMan Sep 2018 #26
That's about the same time frame as me. I was in the National Guard justhanginon Sep 2018 #23
I never had the background check but I was "interviewed" by an FBI agent at my job once (70's) dameatball Sep 2018 #17
Not necessarily. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #19
I saw it. Apples and oranges. This was an agent trying to find someone, not a background check. dameatball Sep 2018 #21
Yes, that's a very different sort of investigation. MineralMan Sep 2018 #38
I believe that is correct. dameatball Sep 2018 #47
That guy put your name on the form. MineralMan Sep 2018 #24
I doubt it. They wanted to know his whearabouts. No way it was about a job. People in the dameatball Sep 2018 #27
I had the same type of clearance and investigation as you... SeattleVet Sep 2018 #61
Yup, It's hard to remember all that stuff. MineralMan Sep 2018 #63
These are valid questions and it makes me wonder! FakeNoose Sep 2018 #22
Yes, they're pretty thorough. MineralMan Sep 2018 #25
Did a three year stint working for a Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #29
"Who?" I imagine they get that question sometimes MineralMan Sep 2018 #30
Well,as you,I grew up in a Tiny Town. Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #35
In my case, FBI got hold of phone numbers I didn't even provide them HipChick Sep 2018 #40
That's what I figured, too. MineralMan Sep 2018 #44
I had a similar situation when I was hired by a defense contractor in CA. Totally Tunsie Sep 2018 #31
Yes, it's odd that the average Joe or Joan has to get such a thorough MineralMan Sep 2018 #32
When I was screened for my security clearance Snake Plissken Sep 2018 #33
Yes. I got to review my report, too, to check for errors, I guess. MineralMan Sep 2018 #36
fbi came knocking on my door orleans Sep 2018 #34
It makes you wonder what they expect to discover, really. MineralMan Sep 2018 #37
My brother got the treatment, too DFW Sep 2018 #39
Yes, that restriction against being married to a non-citizen. MineralMan Sep 2018 #41
I've never been to Turkey DFW Sep 2018 #45
I was stationed there for 15 months, right on the Black Sea. MineralMan Sep 2018 #48
Fifteen months? DFW Sep 2018 #49
Well, most of the guys had the situation well in hand, I guess. MineralMan Sep 2018 #50
"Greater love hath no man....." DFW Sep 2018 #59
I had to let go a team member, because he would not give up HipChick Sep 2018 #42
Such a stupid regulation DFW Sep 2018 #43
If you still have TO Secret clearance, ask the FBI yourself. They can help more than we can. ancianita Sep 2018 #51
I'm not actually asking for any help. MineralMan Sep 2018 #52
I meant help in getting answers to your questions. Ask the FBI directly. They're good ancianita Sep 2018 #53
No, actually, I couldn't get any answers to any of those questions. MineralMan Sep 2018 #55
I see. Sorry I took your meaning literally. We get a lot of that here. But these deserve FBI answers ancianita Sep 2018 #56
Well, those answers are not going to be forthcoming. MineralMan Sep 2018 #57
That might once have been true, but now is a time when such questions need asking and answering. ancianita Sep 2018 #58
Because the powers that be don't care. Initech Sep 2018 #60
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