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Caliman73

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48. They aren't really defecting. They are just waiting for the GOP to go back to normal...

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 05:19 PM

Oct 2018

You know, trickle down economics and the subtle dog whistle politics about "welfare queens" that they cut their teeth on. I think that we welcome any criticism of Trump, but there is a difference between accepting the criticism and embracing the politics they bring with them. You talk about being "more Democratic then many of our own... I am assuming you mean Manchin, Donnelly, and Heidtkamp who often vote with Republicans. The problem with bringing the Steve Schmidt's, Scarborough's, and Wallace's of the world into the camp is that they bring that same republican ideology with them.

Schmidt is correct in his criticism of Trump, but he himself helped to lay the foundation for the rise of a Trump to power in the GOP. Notice how we as Democrats have not had such a figure like Trump in modern history. That is because our ideology is naturally averse to falling in line and believing in some mythical ideology like Schmidt, Scarborough, and Wallace STILL believe in.

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Steve Schmidt... [View all] pbmus Oct 2018 OP

He's brilliant renate Oct 2018 #1

Boy howdy. MontanaMama Oct 2018 #2

you made me smile Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #5

It sounds kinda Kansas, doesn't it? MontanaMama Oct 2018 #7

if you'r'e dating yourself is that a form of incest, since you are in your family? pdsimdars Oct 2018 #14

Aren't you a funny one... MontanaMama Oct 2018 #15

it was the catch phrase for 90-percent Oct 2018 #25

K&R... spanone Oct 2018 #3

He forgot Hannity. nt Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #4

+1 hibbing Oct 2018 #31

I am proud to stand with Steve Schmidt, eloquent witness to these dismal days ... Hekate Oct 2018 #6

Steve Schmidt is not done yet. From today: PearliePoo2 Oct 2018 #8

needs to scroll on buildings in every city Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #65

He doesn't beat around the bush, does he? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #9

More! Just now and it's scary. PearliePoo2 Oct 2018 #10

He isn't allowed to bash Democrats after the pipe bomb thing, ginnyinWI Oct 2018 #32

Steve Schmidt...one of the truly Good Guys. And he has a way with words ! libdem4life Oct 2018 #11

He's NOT one of the Good Guys. He brought us Palin. He is Republican. bitterross Oct 2018 #21

I'll take his defection and help. I'd take anyone's if they're consistent. nolabear Oct 2018 #23

Defected to WHERE though? has he become a Democrat? If not, he's just still grifting BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #27

Hold a grudge, much? He's more democratic than many of "our own". Joe Scarborough libdem4life Oct 2018 #39

Not holding a grudge, but DARING thes people to actually become Democrats! BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #40

What for? If that changes what they say and what they mean...that's pretty sad. libdem4life Oct 2018 #46

My post isn't about YOU, it's about being brave enough to bring new voters with you as you identify BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #47

Gee thanks...thought it was about ME...silly ME. libdem4life Oct 2018 #50

I don't require that. The GOP is deeply factionalized and that's helpful. nolabear Oct 2018 #53

They aren't really defecting. They are just waiting for the GOP to go back to normal... Caliman73 Oct 2018 #48

I'm no political genius, far from it, but just as the South slowly turned from libdem4life Oct 2018 #54

Maybe grifting, but I think more accurately trying to salvage conservatism. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #42

thanks for the thoughtful response! BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #45

I haven't heard him support trickle down or not taxing "job creators" Hamlette Oct 2018 #60

Here is one. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #62

Oh please Hamlette Oct 2018 #66

Check out the 2012 fim, "Game Change" from the Halperin/Heileman book. maddiemom Oct 2018 #49

I own the movie and love it. bitterross Oct 2018 #63

Yeah, Steve was quite content.... SergeStorms Oct 2018 #68

I agree. Scarsdale Oct 2018 #71

Thanks for this. violetpastille Oct 2018 #78

I'm very glad he's on our side NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #12

He is not on our side as Democrats, but he IS on our side as Americans. lostnfound Oct 2018 #72

Over a year ago, I saw Schmidt on with Stephanie Ruhle. PearliePoo2 Oct 2018 #13

Nixon on steroids. And we thought that was a scandal. n/t ginnyinWI Oct 2018 #33

Depending on where you vote, polls open in 178 HOURS. Keep it up Trump, Hannity, Limbaugh.... Grins Oct 2018 #16

All of this is troubling, of course matt819 Oct 2018 #17

YEP Cosmocat Oct 2018 #18

It is not remarkable at all. rkleinberger Oct 2018 #41

I'm not shocked matt819 Oct 2018 #55

Steve Schmidt is absolutely right. gademocrat7 Oct 2018 #19

I know Schmidt "renounced" the GOP, but I've never seen what his new affiliation is. Until he comes BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #20

He renounced the GOP and said he was going to vote for Democrats. MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #30

I've done a bit of searching and all I can find is that he counsels OTHERS to vote Democratic... BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #34

Schmidt is correct, but where was he with this in the 90's? Caliman73 Oct 2018 #22

Perfect response. BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #26

Thanks. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #28

People can change! ginnyinWI Oct 2018 #35

Yes they can. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #38

This is insane. Who cares...Trump was a Democrat back then too. libdem4life Oct 2018 #43

Who are they influencing. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #51

I'll just stick with your first sentence. n/t libdem4life Oct 2018 #56

Okey doke Caliman73 Oct 2018 #59

yes, this. BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #61

Exactly Raine Oct 2018 #70

Another trial run for full blown fascism. pangaia Oct 2018 #24

Thank You Steve Schmidt njhoneybadger Oct 2018 #29

RepubliCONs like Limbaugh and Gingrich are feeble minded, sick and racist. rickyhall Oct 2018 #36

This man helped run the George W Bush re-election campaign oberliner Oct 2018 #37

Forward to today.....he is one of the most eloquent critics of politics today pbmus Oct 2018 #52

Odd that he didn't object to the Republican party under Bush oberliner Oct 2018 #58

WOW- nuff said MoonRiver Oct 2018 #44

Steve helped cause this! JAD Oct 2018 #57

He is pulling the rope, ringing the firebell with all his might. tavernier Oct 2018 #64

He started part of the fire... it burned to places he cares about..but I don't want to cut the rope lostnfound Oct 2018 #73

Never have been more impressed by a Republican or former Republican. Bless Steve Schmidt. Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #67

Maga Terror sagesnow Oct 2018 #69

Yes. True. But do we trust him? calimary Oct 2018 #74

I love what he and others like him are saying wryter2000 Oct 2018 #75

k and r Achilleaze Oct 2018 #76

Steve Schmidt is a RWNJ...... stonecutter357 Oct 2018 #77

But obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2018 #79