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242. You can process it...

Reply to FreeRunning (Reply #221)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:42 AM

Nov 2018

by actually listening to the audio interview and the comment in context, instead of Daily Caller's BS clickbait lede.

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Bernie: Whites who are uncomfortable voting for black candidates are "not necessarily racist" [View all] Maven Nov 2018 OP

Wow. Tipperary Nov 2018 #1

Sometimes it's best to just STFU. He's not helping. brush Nov 2018 #23

Sure he's helping......his own re-election bid for 2020...or so he hopes. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #67

True. He's still after the white, working class vote who vote repug now. brush Nov 2018 #74

You can not win the Democratic nomination with that as your only base of support Gothmog Nov 2018 #112

I think you mean "can't win". brush Nov 2018 #124

sorry Gothmog Nov 2018 #146

Really interested to see what kind of work he's been doing to bridge that gap! WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #2

Yup, THAT IS RACISM. apcalc Nov 2018 #212

Never will forget he wanted to primary President Obama. allgood33 Nov 2018 #232

Good grief. Why is he defending these people?? honest.abe Nov 2018 #3

I second that. calimary Nov 2018 #177

Dumb statement Bernie..just very dumb INdemo Nov 2018 #4

This will probably forever disqualify him from seeking higher office. No matter... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #111

Just what the hell.. luvs2sing Nov 2018 #5

What would Sander consider a racist then? What is his bar? uponit7771 Nov 2018 #6

Schroedinger's Racism NurseJackie Nov 2018 #197

For all of his "progressiveness", he is still way behind the times. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #7

That kinda blows his 'progressive' label. Wth! Bfd Nov 2018 #56

I really don't think he is going to run. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #62

This did it for progressive Democrats & it really reeks of racism. Bfd Nov 2018 #135

. Dude never learns. NT Adrahil Nov 2018 #8

I love Bernie, but he's wrong. vi5 Nov 2018 #9

It is racism by definition. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #10

Welcome to DU, Small-Axe! calimary Nov 2018 #181

Well said! nt brer cat Nov 2018 #266

Racism, by definition. yardwork Nov 2018 #215

To be honest, I am not at all surprised when this guy says stuff like this. nt LexVegas Nov 2018 #11

Me neither. I don't get the shocked responses. This is classic Bernie n/t kcr Nov 2018 #140

Unfortunately I agree. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #249

That's a very cogent response, but even a lot of socialists do get it marylandblue Nov 2018 #280

Definitely. Broad brush statements are fraught... Caliman73 Nov 2018 #281

You nailed it. qwlauren35 Nov 2018 #307

SMFH DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #12

Not surprised at all nini Nov 2018 #13

++++++++ R B Garr Nov 2018 #25

Preach. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #116

LOL nini Nov 2018 #243

This nt Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #216

I like Bernie, though not for President and think his heart is in the right place, but Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #14

Bernie's got that albatross around his neck from past stances and comments, yet... hlthe2b Nov 2018 #15

WTH Bernie? workinclasszero Nov 2018 #16

Yes, Bernie, they are mcar Nov 2018 #17

Is he ever going to apologize, or what? NurseJackie Nov 2018 #300

He seems to think his "clarification" sufficed mcar Nov 2018 #301

It made it worse. It was pouring salt into the wounds... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #305

Even long-time politicians can be tone deaf at times mcar Nov 2018 #308

And stubborn. There's no good reason that he could not offer a sincere apology. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #309

Yep mcar Nov 2018 #310

Because he couldn't admit that some of his own voters LisaM Nov 2018 #18

... lapucelle Nov 2018 #19

Just by luck you'd think he'd miss a branch on the way out of the dense tree Afromania Nov 2018 #20

Yes they are necessarily racist. ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #21

Not voting for someone because of race is racism. Period. n/t Blaukraut Nov 2018 #22

Sigh The Genealogist Nov 2018 #24

When I was younger, and when Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth's homerun record, I remember all excuses I still_one Nov 2018 #26

No one should have gone through what he did the winter before he broke the record Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #30

Absolutely Jersey. It was so cruel and unfair still_one Nov 2018 #57

Remember When He Hit 715 ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #264

Interesting you bring that up. Back then I was really worried about Aaron's safety. George II Nov 2018 #71

I don't know George, when I read this OP for some reason that event came into my mind still_one Nov 2018 #157

I'll bet none of them considered that Ruth didn't have to go up against black pitchers EffieBlack Nov 2018 #173

well said still_one Nov 2018 #198

Wow R B Garr Nov 2018 #27

This is just too much! Unforgivable. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #28

Does supporting a racist make your racist? I think so. mathewgeorge Nov 2018 #29

I like to vote for the person I think is best candidate. tavernier Nov 2018 #31

Are you advocating voting for Republicans? I strenuously disagree...vote Democratic always. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #79

The better candidate is always a Democrat. tavernier Nov 2018 #84

Not really implied but thanks for the update. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #89

So how about "progressives" that called for a primary of President Obama? grantcart Nov 2018 #32

It goes to their core Guppy Nov 2018 #33

Jesus Bernie, really?!?! Bleacher Creature Nov 2018 #34

Please hear me out, because I do think there's a lesson here that we need to learn. better Nov 2018 #35

I think you are on to something ZeroSomeBrains Nov 2018 #44

Inarticulate? Me. Nov 2018 #101

Just another chapter in the "What Bernie REALLY meant to say was this" saga emulatorloo Nov 2018 #180

Inarticulate? Seriously? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #175

My comment isn't really about Senator Sanders ZeroSomeBrains Nov 2018 #259

Sanders is Outreach Chair, not "Chair of Outreach to the Other Side" EffieBlack Nov 2018 #262

+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #269

I completely understand your perspective ZeroSomeBrains Nov 2018 #271

Wrong -- stop embarrassing yourself obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #206

I think there's validity to what you say, but only marybourg Nov 2018 #46

I will readily agree with you there, with a caveat. better Nov 2018 #130

Then they aren't uncomfortable with voting for a black candidate but for a Democrat EffieBlack Nov 2018 #179

Mr Pretzel obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #207

I really dig the way you guys try to rationalize this stuff. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #48

Please note the difference between rationalizing racism and objectively identifying what actually is better Nov 2018 #102

lulz obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #208

In normal times, perhaps. But not now, ecstatic Nov 2018 #227

"What Bernie REALLY meant to say" is a long-standing tradition at DU emulatorloo Nov 2018 #183

David Corn explains.. Cha Nov 2018 #257

Except that this looks like a way to ignore the real R B Garr Nov 2018 #49

I think that's very accurate. It's kind of like (but not exactly) trump yesterday.... George II Nov 2018 #94

Exactly! And what was notable about Gillum is that he R B Garr Nov 2018 #261

If someone is uncomfortable, they're aware of it. That's being racist. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #52

I feel that is the difference between prejudices and racism. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #66

Reminds me of the meaningless distinction that homophobic bigots make when... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #78

It's neither better nor excusable/acceptable. better Nov 2018 #114

Oh good lord! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #122

I'm Shocked! Shocked, reading the justifications here. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #174

Sounds like a giant excuse for racist scum...I see no difference between prejudice and racism. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #170

"We incorrectly identify as racism something that is actually far less malignant (only where the lunamagica Nov 2018 #228

Sure! Perhaps the most relevant example in this era is opposition to Obamacare. better Nov 2018 #234

If their grievance was that they were charged more for insurance and penalized if they didn't buy it lunamagica Nov 2018 #240

This isn't an academic exercise. It's politics. Maven Nov 2018 #80

Horseshit. nt Snotcicles Nov 2018 #224

I consider this absolute rubbish...if you are 'uncomfortable' voting for a person Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #86

No, if they dont think someone black is the best for the job because he is black obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #205

If you hold racist views then you are, by definition, racist. yardwork Nov 2018 #217

BS nini Nov 2018 #244

Does Bernie's Belief Have Any Quantifiable Evidence to Back it Up That Assertion? dlk Nov 2018 #36

Apparently to Bernie -and many other Americans- marybourg Nov 2018 #37

You've described it perfectly. With this, he's pretty much disqualified himself... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #45

They are no different than those who don the white robes in my view. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #90

Jeesh Thrill Nov 2018 #38

He wants to run in 2020...Bernie is just politic-in'. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #39

Courting the "uncomfortable with & don't trust those scary dark people" vote? catbyte Nov 2018 #43

He's lost so many other voters up to now revmclaren Nov 2018 #76

Then what is it, Bernie? catbyte Nov 2018 #40

I don't know how he manages to speak with his foot constantly in his mouth ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #41

Or why people take him seriously. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #42

I think this may end up disqualifying him from any realistic aspirations of higher office. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #72

BRING THE DAY. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #73

... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #127

What the hell?? Peacetrain Nov 2018 #47

Well, he's a white man with a white man's perspective. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #50

That is an astute observation and analysis... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #109

I wonder how many black candidates he's ever been in a position to vote for? He didn't register... George II Nov 2018 #141

Jesus Christ. We're back to questioning Sanders commitment to race equality? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #235

Where do I start? Okay, let me try: George II Nov 2018 #241

So, he falls into the group he is talking about. Republicans do not see themselves as racist, Wintryjade Nov 2018 #129

Read about Sanders in the 60s. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #236

I am pretty well versed. Ask me anything. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #247

It's not the 60s EffieBlack Nov 2018 #263

Perhaps he believes that, but on what does he base it? I don't think he's ever been in the shoes.... George II Nov 2018 #138

He thinks he's an expert on this EffieBlack Nov 2018 #265

And he thinks (IMO) that economic identity is okay, but all other identity LisaM Nov 2018 #199

Lol to Bernie's pasting a target on his forehead and Hortensis Nov 2018 #51

yup this. ++++++ JHan Nov 2018 #99

We Had a black president for eight years. dawg day Nov 2018 #260

:) We don't get to say "time's up" for others, Hortensis Nov 2018 #283

Minorities and women have been voting for white men for decades EffieBlack Nov 2018 #292

He's already prepping for 2020, with Kamala Harris in mind. tman Nov 2018 #53

Too late. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #133

BINGO! nt Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #214

She's too smart to run with him. ecstatic Nov 2018 #226

How can he possibly know that? How many of his constituents over the years... George II Nov 2018 #54

Isn't that the same Barack Obama he wanted a primary challenge for in 2012? GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #178

Ouch. Not sure that works, Bernie janterry Nov 2018 #55

but they are necessarily Republican DBoon Nov 2018 #58

He's wrong Bettie Nov 2018 #59

+1,000,000 George II Nov 2018 #61

Hey Bernie. Yes they are... SidDithers Nov 2018 #60

Of course he thinks it is racist, but it isn't his style to insult voters he thinks could be useful. Doodley Nov 2018 #63

He says it is not racist in the comment, and I see no evidence he 'thinks' it is racist. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #92

He has no problem insulting Democrats. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #159

I guess he doesn't find women's or Black people's votes useful Starry Messenger Nov 2018 #171

No he doesn't -- he thinks it isn't racist obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #210

Bernie, what WOULD make someone a racist?????? nt LAS14 Nov 2018 #64

Bernie just can't get it right. Some (not all) good ideas on economic justice... LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #65

... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #69

Maybe he speaks from expiriece? Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #68

Experience? In his state there have been very very few black candidates for Vermonters... George II Nov 2018 #83

Vermont's Only Black Woman Lawmaker Pulls Out Of Race In Wake Of Online Threats Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #96

I was going to mention that but... George II Nov 2018 #128

I didn't either. I would not vote for Sen. Sanders in a primary...general sure-anyone but Trump. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #160

Yes. As he was getting arrested in Chicago in the 60s fighting for Civil Rights Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #237

Oh please EffieBlack Nov 2018 #268

Yes, he got arrested in Chicago, was fined a whopping $25 and sent on his way. George II Nov 2018 #274

THANK you! EffieBlack Nov 2018 #282

+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #291

wow...so two predictions... qazplm135 Nov 2018 #70

And so ends Bernie 2020 before it even started BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #75

I think it was a dog whistle to Trump's base for 2020... nt Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #77

Who walk around chanting "Jews will not replace us." BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #81

Many people agree with you. With this... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #87

Yes, this should be disqualifying. Maven Nov 2018 #88

Had to be Trump in a Bernie mask. OneBro Nov 2018 #82

wrong obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #211

Finally Me. Nov 2018 #85

Here's a cut-and-paste... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #91

You Do Have To Wonder Why Me. Nov 2018 #95

I posted above about a Black candidate (elected before) who withdrew from her race due Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #100

Shameful Episode Me. Nov 2018 #103

I don't know. It seems he doesn't help Democrats in his state much to me...don't they have a GOP Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #104

No But He'll Run In The Dem Primary Me. Nov 2018 #107

That is true...I found that disturbing. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #120

+++ sheshe2 Nov 2018 #137

I think these remarks do reflect the real Bernie Sanders... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #98

He's always been like this. But anyone who pointed it out comradebillyboy Nov 2018 #113

Maybe That Will No Longer Be Tolerated Now Me. Nov 2018 #115

What?! smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #93

SNL nailed Vermont in that skit Gothmog Nov 2018 #118

+1, I would love to know how folk in Vermont took this skit !! uponit7771 Nov 2018 #163

In other words, it's ok to vote for their opponents in this election who are racist as fuck. dalton99a Nov 2018 #97

It certainly would be a shame if he's forced to resign. Vermont has a Republican governor... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #105

Not voting for someone due to their race instead of their policy Takket Nov 2018 #106

2020 Election Justice4JFK Nov 2018 #108

I hope that bernie does not run in 2020 Gothmog Nov 2018 #110

+1. And it would be nice to see a little support for Russian sanctions dalton99a Nov 2018 #153

I voted for Sander is my primary and I hope he doesn't run either. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #238

OMG. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #117

Or misogynist, just because they--what? Oh Bernie, Bernie, Bernie... Hekate Nov 2018 #119

Liberals need to remember that economic progressivism has nothing to do with race GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #121

Yes! +++++++++ JHan Nov 2018 #123

Bernie's "fine people, on both sides" moment. Skidmore Nov 2018 #125

Excellent and very apt comparison. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #131

WTH??? onetexan Nov 2018 #126

whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American Wintryjade Nov 2018 #132

This says more about him than the racists he's apologizing for. arthritisR_US Nov 2018 #134

O.M.G. peggysue2 Nov 2018 #136

All 19 Black Women Running for Judge in a Texas Race Won Last Night Wintryjade Nov 2018 #144

I read that the other night. peggysue2 Nov 2018 #145

A large number of non-white candidates won in my county Gothmog Nov 2018 #149

Texas did great. We have two muslim women, Native American. We did terrific. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #164

I saw that. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #229

Mmmm, I am in a very blue state that I just love. Went all blue, amendments and all. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #231

Yes. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #139

I see the 2020 hit pieces have gotten an early jump on things.. disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #142

This is spin, Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #148

If you listen to that audio... disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #158

I did. I listened to the whole thing Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #166

FAKE NEWS obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #213

"FAKE NEWS".... You sound like the trumpster.. disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #275

Hey, Bernie - Reluctance to vote for someone because of their race is the DEFINITION OF RACISM EffieBlack Nov 2018 #143

You are correct in your analysis Gothmog Nov 2018 #150

Like Maya Angelou said NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #147

So glad I did not support him. Danny Glover where are you now? Nt helpisontheway Nov 2018 #151

I am done making excuses about racists and Stare Decisis Nov 2018 #152

Define racist loyalsister Nov 2018 #154

Ugh jcgoldie Nov 2018 #155

Is it true that some white people are uncomfortable voting for African Americans? andym Nov 2018 #156

WTF Bernie, why even say shit like that njhoneybadger Nov 2018 #161

So what DOES he call people like that if not racist? DFW Nov 2018 #162

". . .first time in their lives. . ." ???. Excuse me, Bernie, but. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2018 #165

So I guess that someone who's uncomfortable voting for a Jew isn't necessarily an anti-Semite? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2018 #167

Nailed it! (And you're not alone in your observations.) NurseJackie Nov 2018 #195

Not surprised, he has always seemed uncomfortable with people of color. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #168

Bye bye Bernie for the 2000 Dem nomination. Yavin4 Nov 2018 #169

No hate, no snark, just a serious question: Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #172

I don't believe he can beat Trump. kstewart33 Nov 2018 #176

2016 Sanders supporter as well. To put it charitably, he's a gaffe machine emulatorloo Nov 2018 #184

Gaffes can be covered up with a strong strategy and competent campaign staff Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #188

Agreed, Jeff Weaver was a disaster in 2016 emulatorloo Nov 2018 #191

He does believe that the swing state Trump voters will magically not be racist when they hear betsuni Nov 2018 #220

He's in his 70s. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. ecstatic Nov 2018 #225

"Why does he remain so inept when it comes to winning PoC (aside from the college kids) over to his WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #233

I really hate this man Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #182

... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #189

Seriously Bernie? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #185

I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Nov 2018 #186

Things like that reveal much about someone's character. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #190

Due to ballot access laws and new DNC rules, I doubt that sanders would run Gothmog Nov 2018 #192

WTF??? greatauntoftriplets Nov 2018 #187

Those "feelings" of discomfort? That's your inner white supremacist bubbling up. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #193

Sanders' spokesman insists those remarks were taken out of context BeckyDem Nov 2018 #194

I found this difficult to follow. Can someone point me to the telling quote? nt LAS14 Nov 2018 #230

Really, Bernie? MrScorpio Nov 2018 #196

No, Sanders, they are 100% racist obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #200

Pretty sure if the only reason they did not vote for the better candidate was skin color IS racist Freethinker65 Nov 2018 #201

This seems like a good thread to bookmark...nt SidDithers Nov 2018 #202

Excellent advice. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #204

Are these some of the fine people on both sides? nolabear Nov 2018 #203

Things like this reveal much about someone's character. Personally... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #209

Some of us saw through him a long time ago. nt LexVegas Nov 2018 #218

This reminds of the period when apologists tried to insert "racialist" into the lexicon. OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #219

bernie is the bomb FreeRunning Nov 2018 #221

He is talking about people getting over their racism and voting for an African American for the Snotcicles Nov 2018 #223

You can process it... SubjectTrip Nov 2018 #242

Start by admitting he's really not 'the bomb' nini Nov 2018 #246

Oh, Bernie. betsuni Nov 2018 #222

It just keeps happening, and people keep defending and excusing it. Sad. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #297

Really cool to see that out of context Daily Caller gotcha/clickbait journalism is welcome here SubjectTrip Nov 2018 #239

Where's Killer Mike when he need him? George II Nov 2018 #245

Outrageous! Doesn't he understand that the best way to win future elections for dems is to JCanete Nov 2018 #248

It's really incredible the defending of this.. JHan Nov 2018 #250

Racist or not. Either one or the other. Getting 'over' racism is news to me. sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #251

yup + JHan Nov 2018 #252

yeah, but would would make that same person hear anythihng you say beyond accusing them of being JCanete Nov 2018 #254

"better , in my opinion, to point up to the racism is used to divide and fool people" JHan Nov 2018 #255

+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #256

What bothers me is a person who most likely has never been in a position to vote... George II Nov 2018 #284

That doesn't bother me. It is speculation that does absolutely give people who voted for racist JCanete Nov 2018 #289

"He talks to these people"? He flies in, gives a speech, and either flies out or goes to his hotel. George II Nov 2018 #298

Nicely done! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #285

They elected a dead pimp. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #286

Imagine that.. Ridiculous. JHan Nov 2018 #287

There is a baseline humanist belief that people want to think of themselves as good...that they want JCanete Nov 2018 #290

what is voting against their self interests, who are you tell them what they are? JHan Nov 2018 #293

okay. I'll just say that why they are so fucked up matters, because the fact that they are fucked JCanete Nov 2018 #294

Let me ask you a simple ass question: JHan Nov 2018 #295

Yes, it is. I've said so previously, but I'll leave this post to simply acknowledge that. nt JCanete Nov 2018 #299

+++ brer cat Nov 2018 #296

How about Sanders talking to them not about how they're not really racists-- dawg day Nov 2018 #279

I know, right? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #270

It has echos of what happened here a while back when some referred to Hillary with the "c" word, still_one Nov 2018 #312

"it is commonly used it the UK so its usage is "ok". WTF JHan Nov 2018 #313

I believe that argument may have initially from Nadin if memory serves me, but there were still_one Nov 2018 #314

Racism is racism. Nt Quayblue Nov 2018 #253

He is really clueless .. He stepped in it BIG TIME Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #258

White America is very good at redefining racism in various ways that exempt themselves gollygee Nov 2018 #267

... and there you have it! That's an excellent and appropriate analysis and summary. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #272

This. nt Maven Nov 2018 #273

Thank You, gollygee! Cha Nov 2018 #288

Sit down, Bernie. MineralMan Nov 2018 #276

Yes, please. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #302

Oh yes they are. liberalmuse Nov 2018 #277

Please stop Bernie.... just be a Senator. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #278

Am I post 300?? dameatball Nov 2018 #303

Crap!! dameatball Nov 2018 #304

Bernie is channeling Impotus: "There are good people on both sides." Marcuse Nov 2018 #306

It seems that some of sanders progressives were the margin of victory for DeSantis Gothmog Nov 2018 #311