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69. what hurt Kerry was Voter Suppression and Ken Blackwell in Ohio

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Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:23 AM

Nov 2018

and Jeb Bush in Florida .

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Shout out to Michael Moore who did not want overconfidence in democrats [View all] applegrove Nov 2018 OP

He cares. He stands for justice. He stands face to face with power... LOVE HIM n/t wroberts189 Nov 2018 #1

I like Nancy Pelosi's position on it. She predicted we would win... brush Nov 2018 #35

I like the class half full and half empty perspectives elmac Nov 2018 #54

How are the video sales of moore's flop of a movie doing? Gothmog Nov 2018 #109

another comment that tRump and putin would love elmac Nov 2018 #111

"Michael Moore calls Obama a 'huge disappointment" Cha Nov 2018 #121

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #122

Moore is a faux-gressive and hails Bust folks Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2018 #134

Honestly, I think Pelosi saying, "We're going to win the House back."...hurt us on election. bobGandolf Nov 2018 #125

Hah! It sure didn't work out that way, did it. brush Nov 2018 #126

Seriously? bobGandolf Nov 2018 #129

That's one way of looking at it. Another is voters like to see leaders show confidence. brush Nov 2018 #131

I am amused that anyone pays attention to moore Gothmog Nov 2018 #79

Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #113

Who is aligning with trump and putin? I thought we're talking about Michael Moore here. George II Nov 2018 #116

He's a total flim-flam man. A con artist. Not a friend of Democrats. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #117

it seems we always need to be a few points above the margin of error AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #2

Dems are not as rich and often have kids at home that need looking after applegrove Nov 2018 #6

and gerrymandering too KSNY Nov 2018 #45

Oh yes. Harder to get to your voting place too. GOP counts on it. applegrove Nov 2018 #47

THANK YOU, a'g. elleng Nov 2018 #3

Oh I think going after MM is a GOP meme. applegrove Nov 2018 #7

But it's SO common around here, elleng Nov 2018 #8

I'm glad you did. I started another OP to get even more positive responders. applegrove Nov 2018 #11

;-) elleng Nov 2018 #14

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. Stinky The Clown Nov 2018 #16

+1000 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #34

Don't pay 'em any mind. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #42

I usually don't, elleng Nov 2018 #48

It should happen again,this was a nice thing. It was obvious to a lot of Autumn Nov 2018 #102

Thanks, Autumn. elleng Nov 2018 #108

Is that why his movie bombed? Gothmog Nov 2018 #23

Some of his movies bomb. Some hit it out of the ball park. Same as applegrove Nov 2018 #24

His last movie bombed and bombed badly Gothmog Nov 2018 #26

and this proves what? NJCher Nov 2018 #56

That few people pay any attention to moore Gothmog Nov 2018 #77

The failure of his movies mean that moore has to seek attention in other ways Gothmog Nov 2018 #112

your assessment is laughable NJCher Nov 2018 #118

I am amused that anyone pays attention to moore Gothmog Nov 2018 #120

It proves that some DU members love to bash progressives elmac Nov 2018 #115

Gothmog is talking about Michael Cha Nov 2018 #61

I have not heard the details of that dis. I likely would not agree with Moore there as Obama is applegrove Nov 2018 #68

Thank you for that, apple.. we're on the same page there. Cha Nov 2018 #72

Okay. I can well understand. I just don't think we need to throw applegrove Nov 2018 #73

It would be nice if Moore didn't throw Democrats under the bus. betsuni Nov 2018 #81

Oh FO, MM! Thanks for giving a detailed Cha Nov 2018 #84

I could never be a politician either, can't control my face. betsuni Nov 2018 #86

That movie was really weak which is why it flopped Gothmog Nov 2018 #80

All of his movies have been duds since F911 Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2018 #136

What about him going after Pres. Obama? Is Moore even a Democrat? brush Nov 2018 #128

I am! renate Nov 2018 #4

Which Michael Moore is this? The asshole who said a vote for Gore is a vote for bush? How about still_one Nov 2018 #5

Yeah, I'm not a great fan myself. n/t OhZone Nov 2018 #10

MM isn't the reason for our success in the midterms. We won in spite of his constant doom and gloom still_one Nov 2018 #18

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #83

Don't worry, he'll be back in 2020 to tell everyone they're doing it wrong and there is no hope BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #40

He has already come out and said trump will win in 2020 still_one Nov 2018 #44

Yeah PatSeg Nov 2018 #103

The no Blue Wave Moore. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #9

He's from the left wing of the party. That is a common refraine. applegrove Nov 2018 #13

If that is the case, then why did his movie bomb so badly? Gothmog Nov 2018 #20

actually, documentaries are usually not box office hits; Moore's films do unusually well diva77 Nov 2018 #62

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Nov 2018 #78

Sorry, not getting your gist GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #22

No he's not "from the left wing of the party" Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #52

It's an ugly LIE is what it is. Anyone can see that Cha Nov 2018 #64

I was referring to criticism of the Democratic Party by the left. And Moore. applegrove Nov 2018 #66

I see him as a Liar about President Obama and the Cha Nov 2018 #71

Ocasio-Cortez and others have said the same about the establishment applegrove Nov 2018 #75

Uh...What do you think the Green Party is? Why do you think we complain about his support of Nader? MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #99

These parties only help the GOP Gothmog Nov 2018 #114

Trump said to vote as if he's on the ballot... and we did! In It to Win It Nov 2018 #12

No one went to see his movie and I doubt that many democrats paid attention to him Gothmog Nov 2018 #17

Thank you for this Autumn Nov 2018 #19

He predicted Romney and McCain would defeat Barack Obama. John Fante Nov 2018 #21

I'd say he FEARED Romney and McCain would defeat Barack Obama. shanny Nov 2018 #29

That's not what he said: John Fante Nov 2018 #36

Well sure if you are going to use actual quotes to hold him accountable he's grantcart Nov 2018 #46

Oh snap! I wonder if the poster will acknowledge his/her mistake? Tic! Toc! n/t Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #89

Democrats weren't overconfident, but they WERE confident that there would be a huge blue wave.... George II Nov 2018 #25

MM Is Someone . . . DarthDem Nov 2018 #27

That was SICKO. From my perspective the significant moves he made were the following: still_one Nov 2018 #32

Right You Are! DarthDem Nov 2018 #38

I agree still_one Nov 2018 #39

Oh screw him. He is already out there talking about us losing 2020. I can't stand him. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #28

I saw that, he is already spewing how trump was going to win reelection in 2020. It is bullshit, still_one Nov 2018 #30

Yeah DarthDem Nov 2018 #41

he doesn't have much of an audience based on how his films have been doing recently JI7 Nov 2018 #63

Shut up to Michael and his promotion of third parties YessirAtsaFact Nov 2018 #31

Naderites get no quarter from me DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #33

It doesn't always work the way you think. Here on the west coast, I can remember pnwmom Nov 2018 #37

yup , just look at Beto. JI7 Nov 2018 #67

Michael Moore didn't have a thing to do with Tuesday. BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #43

Lots of progressives trying to rewrite history about the lead up to this election GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #49

+++++ JI7 Nov 2018 #55

+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author susanna Nov 2018 #137

"I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock betsuni Nov 2018 #50

What an amazingly stupid thing to say still_one Nov 2018 #53

Yes, not at all "brilliant" or a "predictor of truth." betsuni Nov 2018 #56

yup still_one Nov 2018 #60

Kerry would have been a great President. :( C Moon Nov 2018 #51

Sorry, apple.. Michael Moore has done Cha Nov 2018 #58

'He was the first black American that got elected president.' And that's it" JI7 Nov 2018 #65

Well i don't agree with that at all. applegrove Nov 2018 #70

what hurt Kerry was Voter Suppression and Ken Blackwell in Ohio JI7 Nov 2018 #69

Agree - it needed to be said DrDan Nov 2018 #74

He's not a predictor of truth. Historically the likelihood of a Republican following Obama.. JHan Nov 2018 #76

+1 nt brer cat Nov 2018 #96

In some of the paper thin D wins, what he did may have made the difference. Quixote1818 Nov 2018 #82

Bullshit dansolo Nov 2018 #141

And if we'd lost on Tuesday ... NanceGreggs Nov 2018 #85

Exactly. betsuni Nov 2018 #87

Yup, Michael Moore is full of shit njhoneybadger Nov 2018 #88

Thank you Nance. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #91

Yup -- grassroots leaders and Souls to Polls did this obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #94

Yeah, and they had cameras in a lot of Our Revolution campaigns. joshcryer Nov 2018 #100

Oh, he would've no doubt pointed to the rejection of Our Revolution candidates. joshcryer Nov 2018 #98

Great post Gothmog Nov 2018 #104

Odd how he "lights a fire" under people to vote democratic... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #105

His latest film was essentially "Bernie or Bust: The Movie" Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2018 #133

Iam! nt Raine Nov 2018 #90

k&r Kurt V. Nov 2018 #92

Souls to Polls and other grassroots leaders did this, not fricking Michael Moore obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #93

Thank you. brer cat Nov 2018 #95

This is the white man demanding self congratulations. sagesnow Nov 2018 #101

Sure he did fishwax Nov 2018 #107

Of course this was the whole team. I just don't like to see our big tent have applegrove Nov 2018 #124

If they had lost he'd have another documentary to make. joshcryer Nov 2018 #97

Lawrence O'Donnell has practically made MM a co-host throughout this bullwinkle428 Nov 2018 #106

Which is why I skip watching this show Gothmog Nov 2018 #110

It's not hard to imagine at all. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #119

I dumped LO in the '16 primaries, and haven't looked back. He's entitled to have anyone he wants... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #123

He also once endorsed the proposition that Bush is the same as Gore. NNadir Nov 2018 #127

I agree with you, to a point. bobGandolf Nov 2018 #130

I would rather shout out to all the women who actually made a real difference grantcart Nov 2018 #132

Dr Ford certainly deserves credit. i found that a lot of women who were not very politically active JI7 Nov 2018 #138

++++++++++++++++++++++ JHan Nov 2018 #139

+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #140

I agree. It is just that Moore was being trashed and the others were not. applegrove Nov 2018 #142

Great post Gothmog Nov 2018 #143

I don't like him Meowmee Nov 2018 #135

I Do Not Think That is What Happened erpowers Nov 2018 #144