Thing that makes me go "Mmmm?"

[mr_lebowski]

2. No offense, but I think there's a bit more urgent issues ATM. Whitaker? Florida? Trumps INSANITY?

How about we wait a LITTLE bit ... before we divide ourselves over 'How Progressive We Really All Are, Based on How Much we Agree With Effie'?

Any chance of that? A little temporary hiatus?

I mean, wasn't this same subject kinda hashed out at length in a pretty big thread, REALLY recently?

We really need to ... start up another?

I'm not even arguing against your points but ... these aren't hugely urgent matters, we can hash 'em out ... in the coming weeks and months ... and there's some WAY SERIOUS shit going down at this moment. We all need to stick together at this time ... this Whitaker thing is a REAL crisis situation.

Just MHO