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In reply to the discussion: You're going to need people like me in 2020 [View all]MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)89. Is this another Bernie or Bust effort or something?
No one is stopping his supporters from joining the party. Our progressive platform obviously invites and welcomes other progressives.
I imagine that if Bernie joined the party, so would his supporters. And it would shut up the noise about him not being a Democrat. Problem solved, no?
But instead the party will be held hostage because..... fuck I dont even know his real rationale for not joining the party he wants to lead. Why in the hell does he have to play games and make it so complicated?
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Need them? Is that a threat that they might NOT support whoever is up against
Eliot Rosewater
Nov 2018
#28
Yes, this is a threat-if we do not nominate sanders they will help elect trump again
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#93
I think that's why some voted for Nader/Camejo, and others stayed home.
Algernon Moncrieff
Nov 2018
#538
So-called progressive/sanders voters clearly voted against Gilliam in the real world
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#409
"I will vote for whoever has the best chance of defeating Trump in the 2020"....
George II
Nov 2018
#526
It's the old "we'll take our ball and go home" or "we'll boo at the convention and
Squinch
Nov 2018
#139
And virtually everyone in this thread sees through the divisive nonsense. So that's good.
Squinch
Nov 2018
#191
Are you one of the JPR posters who approved of the booing of Congressman John Lewis
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#194
You two are starting to sound like Dan Crenshaw and Pete Davidson (I'M JOKING!!!!) Sometimes....
George II
Nov 2018
#544
sanders will not be the nominee for so long as African American voters are key to the base
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#523
It's a threat. They don't give a shit about Hispanic, Black and Jewish folks in this country
octoberlib
Nov 2018
#542
and over at JPR Hillary hate runs supreme, along with the Democratic party hate
still_one
Nov 2018
#364
So true! But let me point out, Bernie is not a Democrat... in case anyone forgot!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2018
#489
It was a 1-on-1 contest and he was *the* alternative to a polarizing candidate.
Garrett78
Nov 2018
#446
Someone who's been in office since 1990 would hardly be "considered a complete outsider."
betsuni
Nov 2018
#593
And the 1st primary was nearly a year later, at which point it was a 1-on-1 race.
Garrett78
Nov 2018
#594
By the time of the first primary, Bernie still had low name recognition in many parts of the country
Kentonio
Nov 2018
#595
I haven't denied that, but you're overemphasizing where things stood a year before Iowa.
Garrett78
Nov 2018
#596
I have a ton of Whataburger spicy ketschup packets that I ended using last night
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#331
I think they'd like the others in the tent to stop treating them like the enemy
Algernon Moncrieff
Nov 2018
#346
That kind of sounds like the point of the Democratic Party is to make Bernie "more effective."
dawg day
Nov 2018
#238
Your progessive seem to not want to vote for non-white candidates and may have helped elect DeSantis
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#334
As requested, I asked the young person in my house what he thinks of Bernie Sanders.
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#16
Where did my son get this idea? By using his critical thinking skills, methinks.
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#70
You can be righteously angry and Progressives who support Sanders can simply fail to show up
Algernon Moncrieff
Nov 2018
#345
I support: affordable healthcare; a living wage for all who work; affordable college;
Algernon Moncrieff
Nov 2018
#355
I'm under the impression that this is a website for committed and loyal Democrats.
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#356
1) You aren't the least bit sorry. 2) With all due respect, I'm correct
Algernon Moncrieff
Nov 2018
#370
I don't need lectures about building bridges from people who are actively threatening my party.
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#371
Important point: "We need to think less about our vote as a statement about our individuality."
betsuni
Nov 2018
#421
I seriously doubt that the OP read the article cited because such article does not support the OP
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#375
I think I read that 31% of them voted. That is an awesome increase over their average.
Squinch
Nov 2018
#378
The increase in the voting percentage of young and Latino voters make me smile
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#386
I was a delegate to the national convention and I have a very different view of bernie
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#169
It bothers me a great deal that Russia and Putin pushed sanders and helped him
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#603
The progressive wing? Show me a strong center Dem who hasn't also held a progressive claim
Bfd
Nov 2018
#17
Oh yes. You are precisley right ME. No progressive on the planet can defend His recent comments &
Bfd
Nov 2018
#41
When you omit an entire history of policy by the Democratic leaders & stand there claiming to be the
Bfd
Nov 2018
#55
For many, HRC lost her credibility with Progressives when she voted for the IWR
Algernon Moncrieff
Nov 2018
#348
Didn't Hillary herself admit that her vote for the IWR was a huge blunder?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2018
#492
Tammy is a great American hero & great Dem, but the only one who can save us, the OP says...
Hekate
Nov 2018
#559
I'm curious, realmirage, and need to ask you at what point or what event
Totally Tunsie
Nov 2018
#20
Do you assume that "Sanders supporters" won't vote for the party's nominee...
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#52
To say nobody is attacking Sanders is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2018
#496
You know perfectly well he's not. It's pushback and holding his feet to the fire...
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#515
Bernie has become some people's favorite "punching bag." It's gotten ridiculous around here.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2018
#549
I would strongly suggest taking a deep breath and stepping back for a moment
Docreed2003
Nov 2018
#243
If you think no one here attacks progressives and Sanders regularly you must not be here very often
realmirage
Nov 2018
#253
There's nothing unifying about his slams and smears against the Democratic party.
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#47
If sanders was the nominee, the party would lose the support of key demographic groups
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#188
He can't win without those groups. He can't win the nomination, that's for damn sure. And...
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#245
Per your former position on Bernie, TeamPooka would not have wanted or needed your opinion in 2016.
Totally Tunsie
Nov 2018
#236
I don't hold my vote over people heads. If people who call themselves democrats
boston bean
Nov 2018
#53
It's not the mainstream Dems that keep bringing up bernie!! It's those that support him and want
Thekaspervote
Nov 2018
#115
But, happily, in this thread it's just one guy having a tantrum and EVERYONE else
Squinch
Nov 2018
#173
I'll take your word for it, but there certainly millions of progressives...
LincolnRossiter
Nov 2018
#59
Until he commits to proudly wear the Democratic Paty label, then he isn't a valid consideration
Bfd
Nov 2018
#64
Oh, is it time for the "be nice to us or we won't vote for Democrats" threats again?
mcar
Nov 2018
#56
We need candidates that let people belive government can and should do good things for them.
brewens
Nov 2018
#68
I was a delegate to the national convention and I have a very different view of bernie
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#88
One was also just elected who holds all the cards for ending a political travesty
BumRushDaShow
Nov 2018
#136
I have a question. How many Sanders/OR backed candidates won their primaries, or the GE?
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2018
#294
The reality is that we live in a 2 party system where it's either the Democrat or the Republican.
elocs
Nov 2018
#96
I can't tell you how much more weight this would carry with one change:
Pope George Ringo II
Nov 2018
#100
I have seen no attack on progressives on DU...and I resent the fact that Sander's supporters
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#177
Is this a threat. If a certain group doesn't get their way, let Trump have it and keep all us in
Wintryjade
Nov 2018
#112
That is how I see it. As poorly as AOC has behaved to establishment Democrats, fighting against
Wintryjade
Nov 2018
#134
"Don't get me wrong, Hillary has her flaws," Why do we have to do this, before saying something good
Wintryjade
Nov 2018
#187
I am not concerned about Sanders. He does not have the support or vote and we are two years out.
Wintryjade
Nov 2018
#149
I did and think it is nonsense. Dems win because of our diverse coalition and Sander's has made
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#181
They are not gonna vote if they do not get their way. You accuse me of attacking? Lol
Wintryjade
Nov 2018
#151
They are not voting if they do not get their way. I am going to call that out. Seriously?
Wintryjade
Nov 2018
#159
I think you need to re-read that link you are referring everyone to. It doesn't say
Squinch
Nov 2018
#157
It all depends on your point of view. I see YOU as the one attacking our allies. And
Squinch
Nov 2018
#156
Times change. And had he ran last time, I don't think he wins...the GOP will demonize a
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#171
And he ran as a Democrat and then changed back to independent after the most recent Vermont
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#207
I am very happy to see the trouncing your bullshit post got in this thread, realmirage.
Squinch
Nov 2018
#152
And only 21 recs... compared to the "into-the-sunset" post with 192 recs...
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#233
I think for even some of the biggest fans, the bloom is off the rose. Thank the gods.
Squinch
Nov 2018
#291
Clearly you did hit a nerve. It was the nerve in which people are sick to death of
Squinch
Nov 2018
#365
I like Sanders, but too old. Same with Biden. Let's get someone younger. I really like Steve
LBM20
Nov 2018
#153
Kamala Harris, Joaquin Castro, Cory Booker, Beto O'Rourke, Eric Swallwell, Adam Schiff
Hekate
Nov 2018
#411
How many threats (take ball and go home" are going to have to endure before 20 I wonder...trash
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#166
Interesting numbers I had not seen it. We knew of course Especially with open/caucuses.
Wintryjade
Nov 2018
#198
Or maybe those Sanders voters voted for Trump because they wanted Trump
violetpastille
Nov 2018
#190
Strawman. Valid criticism about his dumb statements on race isn't "attacking progressives"
emulatorloo
Nov 2018
#176
I am so sick of this "support Bernie or I'll take my toys and go home" crap.
redstatebluegirl
Nov 2018
#185
You want us to unite by accepting a candidate who is not acceptable to the base
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#337
Why do I feel like DU is getting a wedgie with all these posts? Asking for a friend, doncha know.nt
Hekate
Nov 2018
#211
Asking people to stop attacking Democrats and the Democratic Party is common sense period.
MrsCoffee
Nov 2018
#246
Inviting "progressives" into our Big Tent, rather taking the tent to them...
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#254
BEYOND common sense... which is why I fear the non-stop bashing of Bernie will go on.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2018
#495
Left wing populism can be as toxic as right wing populism. They both need a boogeyman.
DemocratSinceBirth
Nov 2018
#263
I appreciate your efforts here, but this audience is incapable of listening.
stranger81
Nov 2018
#292
If you bothered to read post #20, you'd find that the o.p. was one of those "fuck you(s)" in 2016.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2018
#296
Oh, yeah, right. That's why so much of Bernie's platform became the official Democratic platform.
pnwmom
Nov 2018
#305
Someone said this "audience" is incapable of listening. I presume s/he was referring to DU,
pnwmom
Nov 2018
#309
I am being inclusive. Some people who belong to no particular party share progressive goals
pnwmom
Nov 2018
#314
Right, and we're having this conversation because some folks have decided an indefensible comment..
JHan
Nov 2018
#316
And YOU are going to need Hillary supporters. They're no more thrilled with Bernie
pnwmom
Nov 2018
#303
Whether one likes it or not because of what happened, Bernie and Hillary are divisionary to some
still_one
Nov 2018
#359
Bernie threads are likes buses. If you miss one there will be another one along in ten minutes.
dameatball
Nov 2018
#380
Except sadly contentious; we need humor. Until then I'm happy to continue listing actual Democrats
Hekate
Nov 2018
#474
I think he's just the Energizer Bunny of wedge issues. I can name a dozen great Dems ...
Hekate
Nov 2018
#415
What's being attacked, if anything, is the myopic focus some Bernie backers have for him.
Afromania
Nov 2018
#438
Please explain how unity is achieved when someone claims the Democratic party is "corrupt".
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#511
Not youth, but those who are so radicalized that they will only vote for their candidate...
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#566
We're gonna need people like you, you're gonna need people like us. CASE CLOSED. nt
UniteFightBack
Nov 2018
#536