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17. I remember when Tim Ryan

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:19 AM

Nov 2018

wanted to be DNC chair. There is something about him that turns me off. It feels like he is more interested in power than progressive Democratic values. Meanwhile, he does not have the resume or experience to effectively run the house for the next two years. We already know what Pelosi can do.

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#fivewhiteguys trying to oust Pelosi are less progressive than Pelosi, voting records show: [View all] ehrnst Nov 2018 OP

K&R stonecutter357 Nov 2018 #1

Fuck them. nt LexVegas Nov 2018 #2

+1 lilactime Nov 2018 #12

Spot on! joshdawg Nov 2018 #27

I am down with what you said! 👍 sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #92

+1 workinclasszero Nov 2018 #41

Exactly! MLAA Nov 2018 #76

No, the point is to fuck Nancy and the rest of our Hortensis Nov 2018 #102

Well done Raven123 Nov 2018 #3

Facts are facts Cary Nov 2018 #4

Five white guys and Marcia Fudge BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #5

Marcia Fudge is not a friend of LGBTQ rights mcar Nov 2018 #11

How about Karen Bass BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #14

How about Nancy Pelosi? mcar Nov 2018 #66

No problem DownriverDem Nov 2018 #74

Karen Bass is voting for Pelosi mcar Nov 2018 #94

Aloha, mcar.. Oh really Cha Nov 2018 #18

I just saw this.. Cha Nov 2018 #48

Pelosi is the most qualified person for the job mcar Nov 2018 #67

Maxine thinks so, too.. Cha Nov 2018 #86

One who is one of only two who refuse to co sponsor the Equality Act dsc Nov 2018 #13

That would make sense if she was Strom Thurmond-like on gay marriage BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #19

So Strom Thurmond is our benchmark now? NYC Liberal Nov 2018 #42

So what are your specific objections to Marcia Fudge? BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #45

She was one of only two Democrats to oppose the Equality Act. NYC Liberal Nov 2018 #47

ADA gives her a 100% rating BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #49

Almost every Democrat is to the left of Tim Ryan. I want a progressive Speaker. yardwork Nov 2018 #55

A lot of people fit that description including Marcia Fudge BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #56

Marcia Fudge voted against LGBTQ rights. I'm gay. yardwork Nov 2018 #68

False BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #69

Why aren't LGBTQ rights civil rights? yardwork Nov 2018 #71

Here is her reasoning BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #73

Only one other Democratic representative agrees with that reasoning. yardwork Nov 2018 #90

Wow.. not good. Cha Nov 2018 #20

Doesn't want it in the Civil Rights. Stand alone law is ok, but not under civil rights. Harsh. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #80

The hashtag left her out. If you are offended, take it up with @nycbubbles ehrnst Nov 2018 #29

This guy left her out, as well. ehrnst Nov 2018 #33

Of course they are.. Cha Nov 2018 #6

A Republican from Joe Liebermans No Labels octoberlib Nov 2018 #7

Anything that has to do with True Blue American Nov 2018 #50

Ryan Is A Corporatist Me. Nov 2018 #96

Sounds Very 3rd Way Me. Nov 2018 #98

Paul Begala:.@TeamPelosi was the MVP of the Dem takeover of the House. She recruited candidates, Cha Nov 2018 #8

Need to check... bobGandolf Nov 2018 #9

I remember when Tim Ryan PatSeg Nov 2018 #17

You said it. True Blue American Nov 2018 #104

I was remembering wrong PatSeg Nov 2018 #105

Ryan is True Blue American Nov 2018 #106

Makes me wonder again why some of the more liberal members are going with this mcar Nov 2018 #10

The divide within our party has been misdiagnosed. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #99

Good points mcar Nov 2018 #103

Marcia Fudge is White? Who Knew? brooklynite Nov 2018 #15

No. #fivewhiteguys are. ehrnst Nov 2018 #16

But Marcia Fudge is trying to oust her as well... brooklynite Nov 2018 #21

So? The OP doesn't mention Marcia Fudge.. it's Cha Nov 2018 #23

Yes indeed...cherry-picking the opposition. brooklynite Nov 2018 #24

No, it isn't. That's your opinion and I disagree. Cha Nov 2018 #25

Trying to change the topic from one that is uncomfortable isn't working. ehrnst Nov 2018 #28

I know.. failed attempt at Cha Nov 2018 #30

My issue with the OP is that implies that Pelosi opposition is based on conservatism brooklynite Nov 2018 #32

Much of it is. You can't have an honest discussion without acknowledging that. ehrnst Nov 2018 #40

Those are all valid points, and have nothing to do with some House members being to her Right brooklynite Nov 2018 #46

So now you don't want to change the topic from anything other than the fivewhiteguys ehrnst Nov 2018 #75

You're confusing 'imply' and 'infer' again. Honesty, indeed. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #82

Adding additional qualifiers seems as odd as cherry picking. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #81

Not my meme. ehrnst Nov 2018 #35

Or this guy.. Cha Nov 2018 #36

Yep Not one mention of Marcia Fudge. Cha Nov 2018 #22

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #31

+ 1000 grantcart Nov 2018 #61

Five WHITE GUYS? apcalc Nov 2018 #26

Here's someone FOR Pelosi.. Joaquin Castro.. Cha Nov 2018 #34

"A "House" divided against itself cannot stand." Abe Lincoln watoos Nov 2018 #37

Yes. Murtha is much missed in this (his) district. maddiemom Nov 2018 #60

Thank you! LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #38

LOL.. I Stand With Nancy! Cha Nov 2018 #39

Question: Fuzzpope Nov 2018 #43

Gee couldn't see that coming huh? workinclasszero Nov 2018 #44

Michael McFaul on Nancy.. 3 days before the election.. Cha Nov 2018 #51

Maxine on Nancy! "There is no one more qualified.." Cha Nov 2018 #52

Yes to Pelosi. No to amateur hour. No to entitled white men. flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #53

Nancy Pelosi stopped Social Security privatization, got Blue Dogs to vote for the stimulus package Cha Nov 2018 #54

Nancy Pelosi delivered the ACA for President Obama. yardwork Nov 2018 #70

Yes, how about that, yardwork?!.. in spite of the Millions and Cha Nov 2018 #87

It really was a big effing deal!!!! yardwork Nov 2018 #88

lol.. VP Biden called it all those years ago!! Cha Nov 2018 #89

He has a way with words. yardwork Nov 2018 #91

Straight up.. Cha Nov 2018 #93

Brava to @maddow for calling out the Democrats for "the most Democrat thing ever"in NOT challenging Cha Nov 2018 #57

K&R. JHan Nov 2018 #58

To repeat, any Democrat who takes a Floor vote WITH REPUBLICANS as part of rump breakaway Cha Nov 2018 #59

THe IDC Has Been A Horror For NY Me. Nov 2018 #97

I read about that.. Cha Nov 2018 #100

Yep...seems like they think they are somehow going to bloody her and then swoop in and JCanete Nov 2018 #62

Nancy Pelosi is quietly effective. raging moderate Nov 2018 #63

Thanks for sharing. f*#k those guys. nt Hotler Nov 2018 #64

These whitefiveguys are republicans masquerading themselves as democrats... Perseus Nov 2018 #65

Was wondering about that myself. lilactime Nov 2018 #72

Bookmarking this one for sure. Interesting and totally not surprising. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #77

K&R betsuni Nov 2018 #78

I followed up my email sent yesterday with a call to Ed Perlmutter's office eleny Nov 2018 #79

Who cares what these five guys think? Gothmog Nov 2018 #83

Scott Dworkin tweet OnDoutside Nov 2018 #84

Something doesn't quite ring true, with these 5 pushing Fudge. Moulton was on CNN talking OnDoutside Nov 2018 #85

I agree with the point, but don't trust the standard of measure. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #95

There is a point where we have to ask ourselves if sexism is playing a role in deciding against her dawg day Nov 2018 #101