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maddiemom

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60. Yes. Murtha is much missed in this (his) district.

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:30 AM

Nov 2018

I definitely back Nancy Pelosi, but my biggest disagreement with her was that she preferred Hoyer as majority leader back then.

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#fivewhiteguys trying to oust Pelosi are less progressive than Pelosi, voting records show: [View all] ehrnst Nov 2018 OP

K&R stonecutter357 Nov 2018 #1

Fuck them. nt LexVegas Nov 2018 #2

+1 lilactime Nov 2018 #12

Spot on! joshdawg Nov 2018 #27

I am down with what you said! 👍 sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #92

+1 workinclasszero Nov 2018 #41

Exactly! MLAA Nov 2018 #76

No, the point is to fuck Nancy and the rest of our Hortensis Nov 2018 #102

Well done Raven123 Nov 2018 #3

Facts are facts Cary Nov 2018 #4

Five white guys and Marcia Fudge BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #5

Marcia Fudge is not a friend of LGBTQ rights mcar Nov 2018 #11

How about Karen Bass BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #14

How about Nancy Pelosi? mcar Nov 2018 #66

No problem DownriverDem Nov 2018 #74

Karen Bass is voting for Pelosi mcar Nov 2018 #94

Aloha, mcar.. Oh really Cha Nov 2018 #18

I just saw this.. Cha Nov 2018 #48

Pelosi is the most qualified person for the job mcar Nov 2018 #67

Maxine thinks so, too.. Cha Nov 2018 #86

One who is one of only two who refuse to co sponsor the Equality Act dsc Nov 2018 #13

That would make sense if she was Strom Thurmond-like on gay marriage BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #19

So Strom Thurmond is our benchmark now? NYC Liberal Nov 2018 #42

So what are your specific objections to Marcia Fudge? BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #45

She was one of only two Democrats to oppose the Equality Act. NYC Liberal Nov 2018 #47

ADA gives her a 100% rating BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #49

Almost every Democrat is to the left of Tim Ryan. I want a progressive Speaker. yardwork Nov 2018 #55

A lot of people fit that description including Marcia Fudge BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #56

Marcia Fudge voted against LGBTQ rights. I'm gay. yardwork Nov 2018 #68

False BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #69

Why aren't LGBTQ rights civil rights? yardwork Nov 2018 #71

Here is her reasoning BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #73

Only one other Democratic representative agrees with that reasoning. yardwork Nov 2018 #90

Wow.. not good. Cha Nov 2018 #20

Doesn't want it in the Civil Rights. Stand alone law is ok, but not under civil rights. Harsh. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #80

The hashtag left her out. If you are offended, take it up with @nycbubbles ehrnst Nov 2018 #29

This guy left her out, as well. ehrnst Nov 2018 #33

Of course they are.. Cha Nov 2018 #6

A Republican from Joe Liebermans No Labels octoberlib Nov 2018 #7

Anything that has to do with True Blue American Nov 2018 #50

Ryan Is A Corporatist Me. Nov 2018 #96

Sounds Very 3rd Way Me. Nov 2018 #98

Paul Begala:.@TeamPelosi was the MVP of the Dem takeover of the House. She recruited candidates, Cha Nov 2018 #8

Need to check... bobGandolf Nov 2018 #9

I remember when Tim Ryan PatSeg Nov 2018 #17

You said it. True Blue American Nov 2018 #104

I was remembering wrong PatSeg Nov 2018 #105

Ryan is True Blue American Nov 2018 #106

Makes me wonder again why some of the more liberal members are going with this mcar Nov 2018 #10

The divide within our party has been misdiagnosed. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #99

Good points mcar Nov 2018 #103

Marcia Fudge is White? Who Knew? brooklynite Nov 2018 #15

No. #fivewhiteguys are. ehrnst Nov 2018 #16

But Marcia Fudge is trying to oust her as well... brooklynite Nov 2018 #21

So? The OP doesn't mention Marcia Fudge.. it's Cha Nov 2018 #23

Yes indeed...cherry-picking the opposition. brooklynite Nov 2018 #24

No, it isn't. That's your opinion and I disagree. Cha Nov 2018 #25

Trying to change the topic from one that is uncomfortable isn't working. ehrnst Nov 2018 #28

I know.. failed attempt at Cha Nov 2018 #30

My issue with the OP is that implies that Pelosi opposition is based on conservatism brooklynite Nov 2018 #32

Much of it is. You can't have an honest discussion without acknowledging that. ehrnst Nov 2018 #40

Those are all valid points, and have nothing to do with some House members being to her Right brooklynite Nov 2018 #46

So now you don't want to change the topic from anything other than the fivewhiteguys ehrnst Nov 2018 #75

You're confusing 'imply' and 'infer' again. Honesty, indeed. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #82

Adding additional qualifiers seems as odd as cherry picking. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #81

Not my meme. ehrnst Nov 2018 #35

Or this guy.. Cha Nov 2018 #36

Yep Not one mention of Marcia Fudge. Cha Nov 2018 #22

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #31

+ 1000 grantcart Nov 2018 #61

Five WHITE GUYS? apcalc Nov 2018 #26

Here's someone FOR Pelosi.. Joaquin Castro.. Cha Nov 2018 #34

"A "House" divided against itself cannot stand." Abe Lincoln watoos Nov 2018 #37

Yes. Murtha is much missed in this (his) district. maddiemom Nov 2018 #60

Thank you! LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #38

LOL.. I Stand With Nancy! Cha Nov 2018 #39

Question: Fuzzpope Nov 2018 #43

Gee couldn't see that coming huh? workinclasszero Nov 2018 #44

Michael McFaul on Nancy.. 3 days before the election.. Cha Nov 2018 #51

Maxine on Nancy! "There is no one more qualified.." Cha Nov 2018 #52

Yes to Pelosi. No to amateur hour. No to entitled white men. flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #53

Nancy Pelosi stopped Social Security privatization, got Blue Dogs to vote for the stimulus package Cha Nov 2018 #54

Nancy Pelosi delivered the ACA for President Obama. yardwork Nov 2018 #70

Yes, how about that, yardwork?!.. in spite of the Millions and Cha Nov 2018 #87

It really was a big effing deal!!!! yardwork Nov 2018 #88

lol.. VP Biden called it all those years ago!! Cha Nov 2018 #89

He has a way with words. yardwork Nov 2018 #91

Straight up.. Cha Nov 2018 #93

Brava to @maddow for calling out the Democrats for "the most Democrat thing ever"in NOT challenging Cha Nov 2018 #57

K&R. JHan Nov 2018 #58

To repeat, any Democrat who takes a Floor vote WITH REPUBLICANS as part of rump breakaway Cha Nov 2018 #59

THe IDC Has Been A Horror For NY Me. Nov 2018 #97

I read about that.. Cha Nov 2018 #100

Yep...seems like they think they are somehow going to bloody her and then swoop in and JCanete Nov 2018 #62

Nancy Pelosi is quietly effective. raging moderate Nov 2018 #63

Thanks for sharing. f*#k those guys. nt Hotler Nov 2018 #64

These whitefiveguys are republicans masquerading themselves as democrats... Perseus Nov 2018 #65

Was wondering about that myself. lilactime Nov 2018 #72

Bookmarking this one for sure. Interesting and totally not surprising. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #77

K&R betsuni Nov 2018 #78

I followed up my email sent yesterday with a call to Ed Perlmutter's office eleny Nov 2018 #79

Who cares what these five guys think? Gothmog Nov 2018 #83

Scott Dworkin tweet OnDoutside Nov 2018 #84

Something doesn't quite ring true, with these 5 pushing Fudge. Moulton was on CNN talking OnDoutside Nov 2018 #85

I agree with the point, but don't trust the standard of measure. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #95

There is a point where we have to ask ourselves if sexism is playing a role in deciding against her dawg day Nov 2018 #101