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aikoaiko

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98. Of course we can and will investigate the hell out of Trump and his admin. That's easy.

Sun Nov 25, 2018, 06:09 PM

Nov 2018

But I think it is a mistake to only be the anti-Trump party and we need to fight for things we think are important.

There could be a lot to be gained by painting McConnell and the GOP Senate as blockers after things pass the House.

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Bernie Sanders lays out bold 10-point plan for Democrats [View all] Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 OP

Thank You For Your Concern Sen. Sanders Me. Nov 2018 #1

You mean The Democratic Senate Leadership that Bernie is part of? Yeah, they've got this. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #2

So He's Not Referring To The House? Me. Nov 2018 #4

Senator Sanders is referring to a NEW version, a progressive version of democrank Nov 2018 #9

Well If You Listen To Speaker Pelosi Me. Nov 2018 #15

To me, it's not about a party, it's about my country. democrank Nov 2018 #20

The help an Indie like Sanders can provide is horribly over estimated. stopbush Nov 2018 #121

k Go Vols Nov 2018 #225

I thought some naysayers were insisting that there wouldn't be a blue wave? lapucelle Nov 2018 #13

there were people saying don't be complacent....but hey, do what you want with it. nt JCanete Nov 2018 #46

BS said he ".. didn't see it coming.." Well Cha Nov 2018 #47

Such curious initials... calimary Nov 2018 #83

LOL! pandr32 Nov 2018 #120

The BS reference seems to be to the House. I'm sure Leader Pelosi will take any suggestions lapucelle Nov 2018 #7

BS is in her (the Dem's) caucus. (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2018 #96

No He's Not Me. Nov 2018 #99

He caucuses with the Dems. And as far as we know, they're happy to have him there. (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2018 #109

He Caucuses With Senate Dems Me. Nov 2018 #138

He's a Senator. Pelosi is the Democratic leader in the House. George II Nov 2018 #200

Leader Pelosi's caucus is House Democrats. BS is a senator. N/T lapucelle Nov 2018 #124

LOL! I'll blame the trypotophan. thesquanderer Nov 2018 #127

You Keep Missing The Point About How Things Are...Is It Deliberate Me. Nov 2018 #139

That's fine. As I tried to say.... thesquanderer Nov 2018 #152

Wrong! Different houses. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #156

Yes, addressed in my subsequent replies. Though again, 2 diff issues. thesquanderer Nov 2018 #195

Did you forget this? George II Nov 2018 #104

Exactly HBS... and everyone knows that Bernie has led the progressive agenda for DECADES that most InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #12

Well said InAbluEsTaTe. Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #78

How some people here can't see that is astounding... or, maybe don't want to see is more accurate. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #89

Then they would have to admit that we took a wrong turn in the 90's by lurching right Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #110

Utter nonsense. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #114

Thanks! The same losing smears are starting up again, R B Garr Nov 2018 #134

Or could it be that this tendency to attribute all this to this one man in particular--- dawg day Nov 2018 #190

Spot on.. disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #211

We need more leaders like Bernie who SET the agenda. tecelote Nov 2018 #93

No, I'd say everyone knows BS has led the Populist agenda for decades. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #94

No he hasn't. Can you direct us to some real, concrete accomplishments of his over those.... George II Nov 2018 #111

Do you know the function of his Senate Leadership position? George II Nov 2018 #69

I am not a Bernie fan, but I don't see anything wrong with what he said. marylandblue Nov 2018 #3

I Think He Should Stop Telling Dems What They Should Do Me. Nov 2018 #6

You should support Democratic allies realmirage Nov 2018 #11

Precisely!! Good luck though,hatin on Bernie to tear him down 4 reasons I cannot begin to understand InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #16

+1 n/t area51 Nov 2018 #28

REally Me. Nov 2018 #18

It's called smart advice. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #32

No, it's Not.. it's call insulting our Democratic Party Cha Nov 2018 #35

Cute Me. Nov 2018 #48

BS insults our Democratic Party with epithets Cha Nov 2018 #36

Well There's A Big Field Of Dems Going/Wanting To Run In '20 Me. Nov 2018 #50

Yeah, Honest Honey! Cha Nov 2018 #52

Tell that to BS when he insults our Democratic Party. Cha Nov 2018 #33

I think what he's doing at this point realmirage Nov 2018 #184

No, he's NOT. BS isn't even paying Attention Cha Nov 2018 #192

Health care is one issue realmirage Nov 2018 #197

BS gets it Wrong again. Cha Nov 2018 #223

This is laughable and exposes the superficiality of these R B Garr Nov 2018 #224

Is he? Perhaps he could follow the example of Independent Senator Angus King. George II Nov 2018 #74

And be a centrist? progressoid Nov 2018 #162

Is that the only way to see it? George II Nov 2018 #164

Uhm...an uninspiring centrist? progressoid Nov 2018 #191

Apparently he inspires his constituents, which is a big part of his job. George II Nov 2018 #207

That goes both ways, correct? sheshe2 Nov 2018 #112

He caucuses with the Democrats, and agrees with Democrats on many issues marylandblue Nov 2018 #17

You're making WAYYYY too much sense mb!! Which means your wise observation will be ignored. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #37

I welcome Bernie's support and criticisms. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #23

You May Me. Nov 2018 #30

No doubt! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #38

It's funny how EVERY SINGLE CALCULATION regarding us taking The Senate always includes Sanders. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #45

So You Don't Believe Him When He Says He's Not? Me. Nov 2018 #49

It also includes Angus King. OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #61

Can you show me links to Angus King's Democratic get out the vote rallies around the country? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #70

Why do you ask that? And, you should research the funtion of the Democratic Leadership position. George II Nov 2018 #80

Here you go: OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #90

"EVERY SINGLE CALCULATION regarding us taking The Senate always includes"..... George II Nov 2018 #72

LOL, Bernie is more of a Democrat based on his voting record than most registered Democrats. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #91

Would Senator Paul Wellstone agree? Sierra Blanca. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #122

I think he would...I said most. Certainly gotta give Sen. Wellstone his due. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #126

No, I don't think Wellstone would at all. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #130

I'm pretty sure Paul Wellstone wouldn't attempt to comfort white folks... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #154

Ummhmm. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #163

Thats like sayin Wellstone wouldnt refer to kids as super predators who needed to be brought to heel InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #173

Sounds more like Trump re-tweets. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #174

The point is Wellstone wouldnt say a lot of things, so your point is what's not a good look on a InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #177

A Trump re-tweet from 2016 million of a 20 year old quote taken out of context Small-Axe Nov 2018 #179

Never seen a tRump tweet or retweet. Sorry, I don't follow him... perhaps you do and that's fine. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #180

No, I'm definitely not one to follow populists. You? Small-Axe Nov 2018 #185

BS is right... Bernie is as popular as ever for a reason. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #186

WHATABOUTHILLARY betsuni Nov 2018 #176

Nothing to do with Hillary... it's about what Wellstone and what he would or wouldn't say. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #178

If it's nothing to do with Hillary, perhaps better not repeat old right wing propaganda about her. betsuni Nov 2018 #182

LOL... YOU are the one spreading propaganda... I didn't say a word about African American youth... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #183

Oh, I know what you did. betsuni Nov 2018 #187

You may think you're a "mind-reader," but nobody's fooled. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #188

... betsuni Nov 2018 #189

"Aren't most of the people who sell the drugs African-American?" betsuni Nov 2018 #196

Oh, snap! JudyM Nov 2018 #218

But there is one small problem. Actually a big one. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #159

++++ sheshe2 Nov 2018 #166

I take it that you do not consider renaming post offices "important legislation?" Small-Axe Nov 2018 #168

Can't say I am familiar with that ground breaking legislation GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #169

I will take that as a NO! Small-Axe Nov 2018 #171

I like you, please do NOT hold your breath on this one. Will never stop Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #79

The first priority should be focused on traitortrump empedocles Nov 2018 #10

I think we should investigate Trump but not focus on him marylandblue Nov 2018 #21

Its arguable, as many, many argue; that trump is such a danger he should be removed from office asap empedocles Nov 2018 #145

I agree with you Ponietz Nov 2018 #201

I also don't see anything that is either "bold" qazplm135 Nov 2018 #155

That is what bothers me the most. His ownership of what Democrats have been working for, for years. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #158

You are correct, qazplm. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #167

That's a nice Reader's Digest version of our Democratic Platform. George II Nov 2018 #71

As Yogi Berra used to say, this is "like deja vu all over again". This four-day old list.... George II Nov 2018 #85

He can't resist Mansplainin' to Pelosi and all those new women House members. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #131

Typically divisive bullshit Kentonio Nov 2018 #204

I dig your consistency in accusing people of being divisive. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #227

Sure, its the people complaining about the endless attacks who are the real attackers... Kentonio Nov 2018 #231

Thank you, Bernie. democrank Nov 2018 #5

An excellent plan indeed!! Glad to see a politician who gets it... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #22

Indeed realmirage Nov 2018 #8

Bernie Sander (I-VT) is telling Democrats what they should do... SidDithers Nov 2018 #14

And many of us welcome his comments. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #25

No question... I sure do. Bernie speaks truth to power, lighting the way forward. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #41

How does he plan to get anything past turtleman and the repugs in the Senate? brush Nov 2018 #42

We won't know until we try. A lot can happen in 2 years aikoaiko Nov 2018 #51

Do you really think McConnell will even allow a vote to the floor of the Senate? brush Nov 2018 #58

Maybe not, but we can't cower. We have to put it to him and his ilk. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #65

Our power is in the House. See post 63. brush Nov 2018 #75

Of course we can and will investigate the hell out of Trump and his admin. That's easy. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #98

That's a good thing, although we know the deplorables aren't deserting trump. brush Nov 2018 #101

He Won't Even Let Con Votes He Doesn't Agree With Come To The Floor Me. Nov 2018 #144

I know. Some here don't seem to know. brush Nov 2018 #151

Reality is unequivically showing the American people that the republicans only care about their rich JCanete Nov 2018 #56

Tell that to McConnell. Our best bet is to investigate, subpoena... brush Nov 2018 #63

back to the unicorn insults questionseverything Nov 2018 #108

I assume you know how the Senate works, right? The repugs are in charge... brush Nov 2018 #119

i don't think even du wants universal healthcare but that is beside the point questionseverything Nov 2018 #228

Yeah, The Democratic Blue Wave that BS Cha Nov 2018 #39

The plan itself is great. But I don't see how he gets it done. nolabear Nov 2018 #19

He was never a team player, not his style marylandblue Nov 2018 #24

He's a gadfly. Always has been. Adrahil Nov 2018 #62

!!!!! QC Nov 2018 #26

And, I for one am Ruddy Happy about that. Cha Nov 2018 #40

Nope. ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #27

If he wants to led the Party, he should join it. Just sayin. dem4decades Nov 2018 #29

He already has a leadership position in the party. demmiblue Nov 2018 #31

Then why is he always insulting my Democratic Cha Nov 2018 #43

What is his leadership position in the House? n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #132

No he doesn't and he has emphatically stated so. Both he and King grantcart Nov 2018 #148

Lol Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #153

Tehehehehe.... disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #213

Bernie is a third base coach in a league of his own. LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #34

Well said. I did not bother to read the OP question everything Nov 2018 #44

ZzzzzzzZzzzZZzzZ Maven Nov 2018 #53

Thank You Me. Nov 2018 #54

Bazinga! George II Nov 2018 #73

... LexVegas Nov 2018 #55

This Democrat would like to see Bernies Bold 10 Years of Tax Returns. violetpastille Nov 2018 #57

This one too. NT Adrahil Nov 2018 #60

I dont need to see his taxes elmac Nov 2018 #92

I want to see his tax returns now, and for at least the last three years, maybe four. Plus... George II Nov 2018 #102

Very Curious.. let's see some Cha Nov 2018 #107

I don't give a shite what "foxnews disagrees" with.. Cha Nov 2018 #106

So transparency in government is not for you. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #115

Several candidates showed theirs prior to the GE dsc Nov 2018 #143

Bazinga! I'd settle for just three or four FULL tax returns, like many many others release. George II Nov 2018 #87

lol & Dead ON, violetpastille! Cha Nov 2018 #97

Sanders is not a Democrat to lay out a plan for the Democratic Party. Twice in the last 2 yrs Wintryjade Nov 2018 #59

He walked away NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #64

Correct. Twice in two years he used the Democratic Party to then put an "I" after his name. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #66

That Bait & Switch Still Appalls Me Me. Nov 2018 #100

As a life long Democrat, I am offended. I do not get why he or his supporters would expect otherwise Wintryjade Nov 2018 #113

It all sounds wonderful creeksneakers2 Nov 2018 #67

Probably less than PDittie Nov 2018 #103

Yes, big tax increases on the super-rich; so whats the problem? Bout time they paid their fair share InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #181

Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich. Decades ago. He left R B Garr Nov 2018 #203

Yes, I agree, trying to pin middle-class tax hikes on Bernie, as I said, would be such a distortion InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #205

Yet much progress could have been done with Universal healthcare R B Garr Nov 2018 #206

That's where we disagree, which is fine... Medicare for all has always been the best way to go... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #209

Rewriting history to make every Democratic accomplishment R B Garr Nov 2018 #210

Look like a pared down version of the Democratic National Committee Platform George II Nov 2018 #68

Well hell, if we already have it written somewhere that we can point to incase somebody asks, JCanete Nov 2018 #81

No, it's not gravy. Gravy includes ALL the ingredients not just some. Flour and water.... George II Nov 2018 #84

I'm forced to concede on that point. nt JCanete Nov 2018 #88

Boom! sheshe2 Nov 2018 #125

It's one thing to have policies that are planks in the party platform... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #214

Our marching orders!! johnp3907 Nov 2018 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author johnp3907 Nov 2018 #77

Hey BaronChocula Nov 2018 #82

How about he lead by example and join the party. Maybe then people will take him seriously. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #86

How generous of him. Phoenix61 Nov 2018 #95

How can you not agree with that. Makes perfect sense and I was big on Bernie. lancelyons Nov 2018 #105

Most of the candidates that Sanders endorsed for the House lost. Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #116

Aren't Lee, Welch & Levin Incumbents? Me. Nov 2018 #141

Mahalo Bernie!! SixString Nov 2018 #117

. George II Nov 2018 #128

Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #150

If he wants to tell us what to do wryter2000 Nov 2018 #118

Isn't there a new rule? kennetha Nov 2018 #123

Laying out my bold, 1-point plan for Republicans: FUCK OFF. VOX Nov 2018 #129

So a male Independent Senator is going to lecture the House Democrats, including pnwmom Nov 2018 #133

He's been busy rigging his own primary Maven Nov 2018 #136

So Bernie is on a new book tour, and we get another false alarm R B Garr Nov 2018 #135

Available for pre-order now on Amazon and Walmart.com. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #147

Actually, if you're in New York tomorrow night, you can get a $45 Orchestra ticket to see him.... George II Nov 2018 #161

Orchestra seats for $7. Or would that seem to plutocratic? Small-Axe Nov 2018 #194

Bingo grantcart Nov 2018 #149

bernie sees a parade,jumps in front of it, and designates himself leader. delisen Nov 2018 #137

You said it! That's absolutely correct! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #140

Ain't that the truth. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #142

Yep, empedocles Nov 2018 #146

Bazinga! George II Nov 2018 #157

Yes, even when he is in the back of the 250k march in Washington DC. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #160

LOL. On the mark. Adrahil Nov 2018 #165

Exactly! EffieBlack Nov 2018 #172

Snap, Analogy! Cha Nov 2018 #193

A non-Democrat giving us marching orders? Ok. But what's his plan for Independents? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #170

he is a Senator , what does he plan on doing as Senator in the Senate JI7 Nov 2018 #175

Good question. I think he's been executing his plan for Independents Tom Rinaldo Nov 2018 #198

You "think he's been executing his plan for Independents?" EffieBlack Nov 2018 #199

OK if you want to look at it that way Tom Rinaldo Nov 2018 #208

Excellent point... but, will not stem the tide of bashing Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #202

Isn't the issue with his wife about transparency and double R B Garr Nov 2018 #212

Thank you for making my point. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #215

You keep rewriting history, it seems. That's the point. R B Garr Nov 2018 #216

There, you did it again... thank you. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #217

Rewriting history that diminishes Democrats and misrepresents R B Garr Nov 2018 #220

LOL, you CAN'T be serious!!! Ironically, YOU are the one rewriting history InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #221

You were insinuating that Democrats were against Bernie's R B Garr Nov 2018 #222

I insinuated no such thing... good try though!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #226

Your post #202, and that's just for starters R B Garr Nov 2018 #229

Apparently you're the one ignoring your own posts... not me as you have claimed. Let's review: InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #230

The "amendment king" is going bold. N/T WeekiWater Nov 2018 #219