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In reply to the discussion: US farmers 'helpless' as TPP boosts Australia [View all]Cha
(306,965 posts)121. The TPP was happening with or without us, and Obama tried to seize the opportunity to make sure we..
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Another one of trump's stupid moves. By 2020 trump moves will have defeated himself...
brush
Dec 2018
#9
yes, there's only two choices: either Dumbo is phenomenally dangerously stupid and should be impeach
CharleyDog
Dec 2018
#23
That's for sure - I remember when just about every DU OP was against the TPP
airplaneman
Dec 2018
#53
I think it was a very bad agreement as it was written then, and do not support it now.
Celerity
Dec 2018
#137
certain provisions where potentially noxious concerning national environmental regs.
paleotn
Dec 2018
#17
Well, those opposed helped defeat Clinton. So where do those "provisions" put us now with trump?
Hoyt
Dec 2018
#19
yes, this will hit us hard, and will never be recovered and could worsen if China wants it to:
CharleyDog
Dec 2018
#25
and? Who are US farmers again generally? We should make trade deals...we just shouldn't make shitty
JCanete
Dec 2018
#138
The TPP didn't do that, being the same as every agreement we and other countries signed since 1959
Hoyt
Dec 2018
#139
I like how it was a diabolical secret and yet they know it's a corporate give-away.
betsuni
Dec 2018
#102
TPP was just another big corporate welfare program, would have just hurt the working class. nt
elmac
Dec 2018
#37
Those provisions also let AFL-CIO sue countries that stop unionization efforts
Recursion
Dec 2018
#133
The solution was to negotiate a fairer provision, not abandon the whole process.
SunSeeker
Dec 2018
#99
And just like with the Affordable Care Act, the Public Option was never offered.
MarcA
Dec 2018
#105
WTO rules require agreements like TPP to have acceptable dispute mechanisms. In any event, do you
Hoyt
Dec 2018
#70
Same dispute mechanism we and other countries have used since 1959. You didn't answer my question.
Hoyt
Dec 2018
#89
I remember how much Trump bashed Hillary for supporting the goals of the TPP.
SunSeeker
Dec 2018
#40
I get it. The opposition, particularly the Jackpine Radical folks, were brutal even if they had no
Hoyt
Dec 2018
#74
It really is amazing. We've gone from bashing Obama and perhaps costing Clinton the election, to
Hoyt
Dec 2018
#73
Big secret, we knew everything in it, not to mention it was like just about every other
Hoyt
Dec 2018
#75
You would know about that. -- Lori Wallach, the director of Global Trade Watch, made numerous
lutherj
Jan 2019
#144
The TPP was happening with or without us, and Obama tried to seize the opportunity to make sure we..
Cha
Dec 2018
#121