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meadowlander

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17. Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers - that's why the current law against striking was put
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jan 2019

in place.

Both of my parents were federal employees before they retired and I work in government as well but not at the federal level. Some things to keep in mind:

1. A lot of people in government do very specialized work that requires, in some cases, years or even decades of training. They choose to do those jobs because they love them and they often take pay cuts to do it. If you've spent 25 years working as an air traffic controller, you're not going to quit your job and get an equivalent one with a private air traffic controlling firm. More or less the *only* place you can do the job you love is in government. Same if you're an environmental compliance officer or park ranger or customs inspector or congressional staffer or intelligence analyst. Yes, you can find a private industry job with some overlap of skills but not with the same sense of public service warm fuzzies that you get from working in government.

2. There has never been a US government shutdown in history where employees did not get back pay when the budget was finally approved. The TSA agents quitting or "sick-outting" are likely young and recent employees who don't understand this. People with substantial experience are not going to risk a career they spent years building because they miss one or two paychecks (but know they will get paid eventually for). 99% of federal employees are going to suck it up and ride this out because they know how it works.

3. Working in government builds a very strong sense of being part of a team and not wanting to be the one to let that team down. Like nurses, teachers, cops and firemen, it takes *a lot* to get them to walk away from their duties because they understand what the consequences will be if they do. With all due respect to your freelance writing job, people aren't going to die or be put at significant risk of harm if you refuse to hand over your work on deadline.

So yes, I guess maybe Trump and/or the Republican "leadership" might fold a few seconds faster than they otherwise will if the air traffic controllers walk out. But they are never going to do it for the reasons discussed above. And Mitch McConnell is going to fold anyway - sooner rather than later.

This makes sense on its surface. But inactuality would require real courage and KPN Jan 2019 #1
Workers should never be timid about getting paid for their work. MineralMan Jan 2019 #2
I've worked without pay a few times. Igel Jan 2019 #5
Did the dorm residents not have keys to the dorm and their rooms? MineralMan Jan 2019 #7
The only thing Trump would understand is someone breaking his kneecaps with a tire iron... hunter Jan 2019 #3
I would never threaten a POTUS. MineralMan Jan 2019 #4
That worked out for you, may it continue to do so. violetpastille Jan 2019 #6
It has worked out for me for almost 50 years. MineralMan Jan 2019 #8
wish it was that simple. I'm thinking lot of these federal workers have YEARS of service. bluestarone Jan 2019 #9
How will they pay those bills without pay. MineralMan Jan 2019 #10
While i agree about the power if EVERYONE would do this bluestarone Jan 2019 #12
Actually, in the case of the TSA and ATC workers, MineralMan Jan 2019 #14
Yep and seems like always the ones that walk out bluestarone Jan 2019 #16
Federal workers can't legally strike. meadowlander Jan 2019 #11
Yes, I know that. MineralMan Jan 2019 #13
Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers - that's why the current law against striking was put meadowlander Jan 2019 #17
As I said, I doubt any such job action will happen. MineralMan Jan 2019 #18
I am retired federal employee who has been through several furloughs and lilactime Jan 2019 #15
All of that is why the power of labor has shrunk. MineralMan Jan 2019 #19
What is essential is that the Federal government is Open malaise Jan 2019 #20
The last time the air traffic controllers walked it was replacedl CK_John Jan 2019 #21
Federal shutdowns are the thing that should be legally banned, should not be allowed. sunonmars Jan 2019 #22
NOT paying one for their hard work is the Trump way lame54 Jan 2019 #23
Waiting in lines about 4 hours long, i thought, "30% of these people were trump voters" lostnfound Jan 2019 #24
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