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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts) Mon Jan 21, 2019, 11:01 AM Jan 2019

In 4 days, Federal Courts will shut down [View all]

The last food stamp payments went out yesterday and on Jan 25, Federal Courts will run out of money and be incapable of operating.

Trump's Shutdown is intentionally designed for this. The "deal" currently on the table is rejected by both parties.

At this point, the only way out is for Congress to pass a veto-proof bill to re-open the government. Moscow Mitch is as well compensated by Putin as Trump is, so Republicans in the Senate are going to have to grow some in order to get a bill to the floor in the Senate. All signs show that they aren't going to do that.

Which means, this shutdown is indefinite.

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In 4 days, Federal Courts will shut down [View all] berni_mccoy Jan 2019 OP

The ripple effect of the partial shutdown gratuitous Jan 2019 #1

What is everyone's breaking point?? bdamomma Jan 2019 #2

I suspect when airplanes are not allowed to fly. berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #3

Is the Congress even bdamomma Jan 2019 #5

I expect we will hear talk of privitizing ATC and the TSA at that point. progressoid Jan 2019 #7

Only a very small percentage of Americans fly. Blue_true Jan 2019 #34

What about shipping? Plenty of cargo goes by Air. berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #35

Air cargo tends to be the "elite" cargo. Blue_true Jan 2019 #39

Also, I'm not sure of your conclusion berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #37

Just a little more than 2 million people per day. Blue_true Jan 2019 #40

You're crazy if you think that. Everyone will be affected berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #41

I work with numbers. 150:1 say a lot more people that never fly are being hurt. Blue_true Jan 2019 #43

That is my thought too shanti Jan 2019 #58

Missing one food stamp payment htuttle Jan 2019 #4

This will have a large effect on the bottom line of the major grocery gldstwmn Jan 2019 #20

Especially the 2500 or so grocery stores that aren't able to accept MissB Jan 2019 #30

Why did the licenses lapse? nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #36

They were either in the process or due soon. MissB Jan 2019 #42

That is happening with a lot of businesses that interface with the federal government. Blue_true Jan 2019 #48

Definitely. n/t gldstwmn Jan 2019 #46

For every $1 in SNAP expendature the economy gets $1.70. joshcryer Jan 2019 #50

and yet wall street is A ok with all of his, guess its worth it to them. nt elmac Jan 2019 #6

Actually if the market is an indicator gldstwmn Jan 2019 #21

The market has been going up since the shutdown started. former9thward Jan 2019 #22

Concern is reflected by relatively high market fluctuation potentially causing market instability. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #23

Dow dropped 400 pts today. Duppers Jan 2019 #56

the democrats did not start this . trump did . trump did . only he can stop it AllaN01Bear Jan 2019 #8

Hampton Roads local news... Duppers Jan 2019 #57

Mr. "I Alone Can Fix It" Should Get Started dlk Jan 2019 #9

The only management technique he knows DENVERPOPS Jan 2019 #10

And we all know he has no policies or plans for anything and if BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #14

reminder to get any nessacery prescriptions filled now... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2019 #29

When to the marches on D.C. happen? RT Atlanta Jan 2019 #11

This is Grover Norquist's "government you can drown in a bathtub" moment. Ford_Prefect Jan 2019 #12

The plan is to break America on multiple fronts. I can't even ... nt Hekate Jan 2019 #13

Trump wants the courts shut down before . . . MrModerate Jan 2019 #15

Holy crap. This is getting really scary. nt onlyadream Jan 2019 #16

He can't go back to his old life. It doesn't exist. CrispyQ Jan 2019 #19

Martial law ain't happening. Initech Jan 2019 #25

You're talking about the old-fashioned pre-Trump martial law. n/t MrModerate Jan 2019 #31

Yes, there will be instantaneous secession movements. roamer65 Jan 2019 #47

Oh stop with the martial law stuff. cwydro Jan 2019 #32

I did my best to pose it as hyperbole, but maybe that wasn't clear. n/t MrModerate Jan 2019 #55

How do you win against a psychopath who doesn't care if he destroys the country? Kablooie Jan 2019 #17

We are fucked because it is being ignored that Putin is directing this. triron Jan 2019 #18

Putin is directing this. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2019 #28

Okay corporations like Walmart. Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #24

The GOP "law and order" party destroys the courts workinclasszero Jan 2019 #26

They're like locusts. They literally destroy everything they touch. Initech Jan 2019 #45

Like their fuhrer Bone Spurs workinclasszero Jan 2019 #54

maggot is delighted MFM008 Jan 2019 #27

From what I understand, the large majority of people getting food assistance are working class Blue_true Jan 2019 #38

How does food stamp payments work? Blue_true Jan 2019 #33

Woohoo!!!! Time for the Purge!!!! Initech Jan 2019 #44

A lot of things go by air nitpicker Jan 2019 #49

As a family relying on the paycheck of a federal worker Qanisqineq Jan 2019 #51

California is allowing unemployment benefits to be given to federal workers impacted by the shutdown still_one Jan 2019 #53

He could do his excutive order, though that would get challenged in the courts still_one Jan 2019 #52