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mountain grammy

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48. It's not, of course.

Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:10 PM

Feb 2019

But you’re being a bit disingenuous if you say that’s all it’s about. Have you actually read some of the posts on the “trash Bernie “ threads? They are extremely hateful.

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The visceral hatred for Bernie is starting to remind me of the RW hate for Obama. [View all] redgreenandblue Feb 2019 OP

I'm over here waiting patiently for the threads chastising Kamala Harris for daring to speak... TCJ70 Feb 2019 #1

The more voices the better, especially if they are speaking in unison AGAINST Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #3

Agreed. N/t TCJ70 Feb 2019 #11

Sure. Why stop with Harris? Why not Gillibrand and Warren question everything Feb 2019 #214

Don't you worry... TCJ70 Feb 2019 #217

Agree mountain grammy Feb 2019 #35

It's not hate towards Bernie DownriverDem Feb 2019 #61

It's absolutely towards Bernie... TCJ70 Feb 2019 #65

Again, tell it to the Democrats. dogman Feb 2019 #91

wow. you don't say? ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #92

I bet they thought you were just a little MuseRider Feb 2019 #186

I like Bernie, I just don't think he is a good candidate for President emulatorloo Feb 2019 #2

Me too n/t FreeState Feb 2019 #8

Agreed. eom LittleGirl Feb 2019 #28

Same here, eom get the red out Feb 2019 #59

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #74

He is too divisive nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #122

I tend to agree. ananda Feb 2019 #157

Agreed 100% relayerbob Feb 2019 #159

I think he would do well MuseRider Feb 2019 #190

How many reasons are there NOT to release them? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #201

Asking Sanders to release his tax returns is hatred? brooklynite Feb 2019 #4

Bernie has his own rules grantcart Feb 2019 #7

I too await a response to this question. Politely. yardwork Feb 2019 #18

It is weird if repeated over and over, especially since it is highly unlikely that redgreenandblue Feb 2019 #27

Then why won't he release them? Adrahil Feb 2019 #40

So why doesn't he release his tax returns? He promised to do so in 2017. yardwork Feb 2019 #41

He promised to do so in 2016 as well. In fact Jane sat under the Brooklyn Bridge.... George II Feb 2019 #50

We're waiting politely. yardwork Feb 2019 #168

"Unlikely that the tax returns contain any interesting information." ehrnst Feb 2019 #47

The problem of course is how people who are dedicated democrats Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #202

+1 MLAA Feb 2019 #279

I have a valid request... qazplm135 Feb 2019 #68

It is the double standard that is irritating. Bernie's tax returns..Hillary's Goldman Sach's speech LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #121

Hillary released decades of tax returns. These false R B Garr Feb 2019 #139

You are hillarious LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #161

You are just trying to divert to talk about me personally R B Garr Feb 2019 #234

You are dead-on right. JudyM Feb 2019 #281

Bogus false analogies are what is "oppositional R B Garr Feb 2019 #287

Is Hillary running again in 2020? MH1 Feb 2019 #305

But releasing tax returns was a part of the common practice in running for office LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #306

Why is it weird? He and Dotard are the only ones that haven't done it treestar Feb 2019 #124

That's company I wouldn't want to be in. yardwork Feb 2019 #169

Yeah... wtf? Adrahil Feb 2019 #33

Bernie also True Blue American Feb 2019 #147

The OP didn't say hatred Apollyonus Feb 2019 #131

. Asking Sanders to release his tax returns is NOT hatred !!! and, HE IS NOT A DEMOCRAT !!!!!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #154

Excellent questions. Cha Feb 2019 #215

I totally understand your perspective. David__77 Feb 2019 #5

The level of obsession is really weird. nt. Mariana Feb 2019 #6

I think it may be obsessive. David__77 Feb 2019 #10

There is the fear of Dotard getting another term treestar Feb 2019 #130

In which direction? NurseJackie Feb 2019 #146

Should we nominate someone who is viewed so divisively within our own party? LonePirate Feb 2019 #9

I've asked myself this question. redgreenandblue Feb 2019 #13

Latest primary polling I've seen puts Bernie in third place behind Biden and Harris emulatorloo Feb 2019 #24

Who here "hates" Bernie Sanders? Not me. dawg day Feb 2019 #34

I do. BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #88

About 1/2 dozen prolific posters? Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #291

I lulzed. Tipperary Feb 2019 #302

He seems to have faded to polls compared to where he was. Adrahil Feb 2019 #42

Most of that positive polling leftynyc Feb 2019 #78

Last I looked he was 3 points behind Harris. Nothing has been posted this week Autumn Feb 2019 #95

Good question, but ironic, considering.... just saying. yardwork Feb 2019 #19

Why would we stop nominating people who are viewed divisively within our own party? quakerboy Feb 2019 #135

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #12

I like Bernie, I just don't want to go through the whole Hillary - Bernie debacle again. Initech Feb 2019 #14

Pretty sure Hilary isn't running this time around so you should be ok. aidbo Feb 2019 #220

I joined DU after the 2016 election Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #15

I think you missed half of that movie BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #96

So what others did before justifies what some are doing now? Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #174

Who said it did? BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #207

How the hell is "release the birth certificate" in any way the same as "release the tax returns"? manor321 Feb 2019 #16

Because it is extremely unlikely that there is anything interesting in them. nt redgreenandblue Feb 2019 #21

How do you know this? And wouldn't it be best to just clear it up? yardwork Feb 2019 #26

What???? FrankBooth Feb 2019 #39

What objectively leads you to that conclusion? LanternWaste Feb 2019 #51

Then what's the problem with releasing them? dawg day Feb 2019 #57

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #66

I don't believe that or they would have been released. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #100

Exactly. There is something treestar Feb 2019 #132

Then Why Doesn't He Release Them? Me. Feb 2019 #212

*** BULLSHIT PRETZEL LOGIC *** uponit7771 Feb 2019 #246

No shit. And how are issues surrounding him and his campaign about equality and harassment anything MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #229

I want ALL candidates to release their returns SHRED Feb 2019 #17

thank you! renate Feb 2019 #20

You see no difference between a call to release yet another birth certificate -- dawg day Feb 2019 #22

Bernie released his 2014 tax documents . Autumn Feb 2019 #46

He released two pages - the Form 1040 - no Schedule A or Schedule B or any other.... George II Feb 2019 #52

And this is what the OP is talking about quakerboy Feb 2019 #209

That was long after the fact, he originally released only the first two pages. The last five pages.. George II Feb 2019 #222

You are only proving the ops point. quakerboy Feb 2019 #224

"The other pages showed nothing that wasnt apparent" This is false on its face, bad gaslighting uponit7771 Feb 2019 #247

I dont know you, but this feels like bad faith to me. quakerboy Feb 2019 #271

Details, which is the point of the rest of the pages uponit7771 Feb 2019 #272

Expecting transparency from someone who smears others R B Garr Feb 2019 #292

That's one of the simplest returns imaginable. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #237

If "But you (i.e, I) know that" was true, why did you explain it to me? But.... George II Feb 2019 #242

Look up thrift savings plan and the "still working" exemptions. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #245

There still are RMDs involved. George II Feb 2019 #248

You didn't look up thrift savings plan and still working exemptions, now did you. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #250

Yes I did. There still are RMDs involved. George II Feb 2019 #251

You didn't look too hard, did you. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #254

I looked hard enough, and there still is no notation on his tax return about any contributions... George II Feb 2019 #255

Contributions are on the W2 for a W2 employee. This is basic stuff. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #264

Where is the Form W-2 for this "complete" tax return? George II Feb 2019 #265

Well at least you are now educated on the TSP and (non) minimum distributions. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #267

I WAS educated on this before this discussion began. Will anxiously await the complete return. George II Feb 2019 #270

How transparent is Bernie Sanders on his tax returns? Gothmog Feb 2019 #127

You know Bernie is a Russian asset and his goal is to destroy the Dem party because he hates it? Autumn Feb 2019 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author melman Feb 2019 #60

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2019 #177

Tad Devine.... Manafort ... Roger Stone Apollyonus Feb 2019 #144

Yup, identical messages. What are the odds... R B Garr Feb 2019 #293

Are you saying that Bernie is not likeable? yardwork Feb 2019 #25

Very very interesting treestar Feb 2019 #260

What is hateful about asking a candidate to release his/her tax returns? mcar Feb 2019 #29

I've answered the tax return thing above. redgreenandblue Feb 2019 #31

I have no idea if he has something to hide mcar Feb 2019 #37

Your answer is insufficient treestar Feb 2019 #134

It's not, of course. mountain grammy Feb 2019 #48

I'm only talking about the tax returns mcar Feb 2019 #49

So what? BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #98

Interesting romana Feb 2019 #30

The biggest difference is that both Hillary and Obama were registered *DEMOCRATS* scheming daemons Feb 2019 #38

Yep. Scurrilous Feb 2019 #45

Excuse Me...He isn't A Real Democrat Me. Feb 2019 #32

Neither was Jesus. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #58

I bet if Jesus ran for president, he'd become a Democrat. dawg day Feb 2019 #63

Read your bible, sir. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #64

Then with all due respect... Adrahil Feb 2019 #240

I wholeheartedly agree. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #256

If people are concerned about regular candidates because of their hughee99 Feb 2019 #184

Has he announced yet? George II Feb 2019 #84

I don't suspect he will. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #110

Are You Comparing Bernie Sanders To Jesus? Me. Feb 2019 #85

Yes, yes he is. The poster knows this viscerally. Hekate Feb 2019 #101

Nope. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #102

There Is No Comparison Me. Feb 2019 #112

There is. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #118

Boy Have You Got It Bad Me. Feb 2019 #133

I have no words mcar Feb 2019 #187

why does someone always have to bring religion into the yuiyoshida Feb 2019 #180

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Feb 2019 #284

Wouldn't be the first time one of his supporters did that. BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #103

I am a Sanders supporter? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #106

I couldn't care less. You're the one who invoked Jesus. BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #109

It's generally difficult to follow unintelligible propositions. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #117

You might have missed this post Renew Deal Feb 2019 #128

Ummm mcar Feb 2019 #188

Jesus espoused the very things Liberals stand for! True Blue American Feb 2019 #151

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL NastyRiffraff Feb 2019 #226

You're on the right track. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #261

and that applies to Jesus also still_one Feb 2019 #285

And a bird did land on Sanders podium after all. Ha ha. peacefrogman Feb 2019 #283

The big difference is that it was the *RW* that hated Obama.....which is a good thing scheming daemons Feb 2019 #36

Were you here 2008-20016? mcar Feb 2019 #189

I've been here since 2003 scheming daemons Feb 2019 #194

Some were trolls, yes mcar Feb 2019 #196

Really? brandnewday2009 Feb 2019 #43

Bernie should release his tax returns leftofcool Feb 2019 #44

Bernie released some of his 2014 documents and said if he were the nominee he would release more. Autumn Feb 2019 #77

That list is from 2017, and only two on your list.... George II Feb 2019 #90

2016 is before 2017 and Bernie is not running. As yet. You can go look for a newer one if Autumn Feb 2019 #120

He did in 2016, but none of those on the 2017 list ran in 2016. George II Feb 2019 #129

When you are posting diversions from the real points then R B Garr Feb 2019 #297

Bernie Sanders has released few tax returns compared with past and present candidates Gothmog Feb 2019 #221

I know, it's embarassing. Magoo48 Feb 2019 #53

Expecting candidates to release their tax returns is not "embarrassing." nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #70

"He didn't release his tax returns" TheFarseer Feb 2019 #263

I liked Sanders until June 8, 2016. His conduct after that point completely changed my mind. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #54

It was his behavior at the convention and his supporters at the convention and after redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #115

Same for me. True Blue American Feb 2019 #158

Yep, he was acting like a fox in the henhouse that night. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #160

So were his supporters. True Blue American Feb 2019 #163

Me too. It made me sad to be honest. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #165

I am sorry True Blue American Feb 2019 #166

That's where he lost me as well. yardwork Feb 2019 #173

I lost all respect for BS when he Cha Feb 2019 #195

Bernie endorsed Hillary, it's not his fault that some psycho Bernie bros. didn't vote for her AdamGG Feb 2019 #55

It's his fault he gave Trump cover for not releasing his tax returns pnwmom Feb 2019 #73

It's actually well deserved. BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #104

I wonder how many Sanders supporters did not vote for Clinton because hughee99 Feb 2019 #191

Sounds like a strawman. Besides, who votes based on somebody being "mean" to them on the Internet? emulatorloo Feb 2019 #208

So a strawman is when someone sets up a fauty premise hughee99 Feb 2019 #230

I missed the part where Bernie supporters were called racists by Clinton supporters emulatorloo Feb 2019 #268

You missed it? You really weren't aware that there was an attempt to paint Sanders hughee99 Feb 2019 #273

The person who wrote the first thread was tombstoned, the second thread doesn't emulatorloo Feb 2019 #274

The inference that he's a Russian agent is particularly bad. David__77 Feb 2019 #56

Really. ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #62

Heh, heh, heh. progressoid Feb 2019 #67

Or maybe people just want him to meet the same standards as Obama and Hillary. pnwmom Feb 2019 #69

+1 SunSeeker Feb 2019 #72

+1 LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #82

Indeed treestar Feb 2019 #262

If Sanders were vetted by today's stricter standards he'd have never made it into the primaries. Ufta88 Feb 2019 #71

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #75

Expecting a candidate to release his tax returns is not the same as birtherism. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #76

lol ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #79

I'm very interested in seeing his tax returns. Why all the secrecy? NurseJackie Feb 2019 #80

aren't we overdramatizing here by calling it "hatred" onetexan Feb 2019 #81

That sounds so much like the Russian Troll crap that was being passed around Farmer-Rick Feb 2019 #83

In 2016, Russian trolls attacked Hillary and promoted Trump and Bernie. Let's be historically emulatorloo Feb 2019 #210

Oh, so you think they actually helped Bernie in 2016 because he won? Farmer-Rick Feb 2019 #299

Obviously they wanted Trump to win and they wanted the Dem nominee to lose. emulatorloo Feb 2019 #300

+1000 Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #86

It's been weird to watch that build up over the last 2 and a half years. dgauss Feb 2019 #87

Two and a half years has been long enough to release the tax returns. nt pnwmom Feb 2019 #89

You nailed it Champion Jack Feb 2019 #93

You must see the difference. honest.abe Feb 2019 #94

To be honest I haven't seen any of that other stuff here on DU. As for the tax returns.... George II Feb 2019 #105

Me either. honest.abe Feb 2019 #108

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, Cha Feb 2019 #216

It is my opinion that Sen. Sanders won't be the 2020 candidate for two reason. The first is that he Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #97

Factually speaking, he is NOT a Democrat at all. He is an Independent who identifies as Socialist. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #99

Tell the Democrats. dogman Feb 2019 #107

He is registered as an Independent. That's a fact. He says he is a socialist. That's a fact. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #111

Take it up with Skinner. QC Feb 2019 #114

Fact: He is an independent who caucuses with the Democrats. He registered as a Dem for 2016 election Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #119

Best words ever spoken... As for Jill Stein: She can go fuck herself. Autumn Feb 2019 #125

Well that was nearly a year and a half ago... honest.abe Feb 2019 #136

Check again if you'd like. Same DU rule persists unequivocally. JudyM Feb 2019 #156

Do the rules ever change? honest.abe Feb 2019 #170

The admins know what they're doing. JudyM Feb 2019 #275

What if he runs as 3rd party independent? honest.abe Feb 2019 #294

He won't. JudyM Feb 2019 #295

But if he did the rules would change... right? honest.abe Feb 2019 #298

That very last line ... happybird Feb 2019 #137

He's so popular today! David__77 Feb 2019 #113

The OP drips with white privilege BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #116

Oh my... jmowreader Feb 2019 #123

Eh Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2019 #126

The problem with Bernie jgmiller Feb 2019 #138

Yes. Hortensis Feb 2019 #167

One MAJOR difference Apollyonus Feb 2019 #140

+1! honest.abe Feb 2019 #145

I was at the National Convention when Congressman John Lewis was booed Gothmog Feb 2019 #155

So asking for his tax returns awesomerwb1 Feb 2019 #141

The Post Appears to be an Over-Reaction to Any Criticism of Bernie dlk Feb 2019 #142

Count me in as one who has a visceral lillypaddle Feb 2019 #143

I admit it kennetha Feb 2019 #148

Like talking points being fed from the same source. CentralMass Feb 2019 #149

+1 jalan48 Feb 2019 #162

Daivd Brock's troll shop got the story started on Twitter, QC Feb 2019 #225

I don't think it's "visceral." marybourg Feb 2019 #150

I don't hate Bernie hurple Feb 2019 #152

Same old same old Roy Rolling Feb 2019 #153

It is ridiculous. Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #164

Sorry, but Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #171

Why I spend more time on Twitter JonLP24 Feb 2019 #172

So true. zentrum Feb 2019 #175

For some of us, Bernie's not the problem. cab67 Feb 2019 #176

Right, and they somehow think Sanders would have trounced Trump -- as if the Russians pnwmom Feb 2019 #179

I appreciate your post and agree. mysteryowl Feb 2019 #178

Creatures of darkness fear the light. pdsimdars Feb 2019 #181

But I've been told Bernie's a Russian Agent ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #182

Some days you have to wonder MuseRider Feb 2019 #200

I understand having some issues with Bernie ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #211

Agreed. MuseRider Feb 2019 #219

You say Bernie isn't a real democrat like that's a matter of opinion hughee99 Feb 2019 #183

He is a Democratic Socialist JonLP24 Feb 2019 #193

I'm not saying his politics aren't well aligned with the party hughee99 Feb 2019 #198

He does that in agreement with the Democratic Party ironically JonLP24 Feb 2019 #205

He would also have the option to actually run as a Dem hughee99 Feb 2019 #233

He could just run as an Independent in Vermont and beat both the Democrat and the Republican JonLP24 Feb 2019 #239

I am not a Bloomberg fan, and I do not dislike Bernie, hughee99 Feb 2019 #252

"When you go by his voting record he is more of a Democrat..." Demit Feb 2019 #213

He is clear he has always been a Democratic Socialist JonLP24 Feb 2019 #223

Did you read what you posted? sheshe2 Feb 2019 #232

I realize that JonLP24 Feb 2019 #238

It is also a year and a half old. nt sheshe2 Feb 2019 #241

I would like some 2018 numbers JonLP24 Feb 2019 #243

OK sheshe2 Feb 2019 #244

+ infinity - n/t Locrian Feb 2019 #185

BS brings it on himself with his own words.. Cha Feb 2019 #192

Yes. x( elleng Feb 2019 #197

There are definitely some who can be described as "hating" Sanders. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #199

You sang my song, Caliman73. Very well put. Anon-C Feb 2019 #203

I disagree with your statement: "No one says he is Russian or in league with them." David__77 Feb 2019 #227

A few nitwits on Twitter?!? honest.abe Feb 2019 #228

Okay. There are silly people on all sides. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #235

Very well stated. honest.abe Feb 2019 #231

You are comparing racism to financial political transparency. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #204

I've been gone a while, but my posting here goes back to the Bush years theboss Feb 2019 #206

Visceral? Hardly. Hey if he can't take a slight dose of what Hillary went thru then .... Ufta88 Feb 2019 #218

I will admit that to me, Bernie contributed to Trump victory Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #236

Well said. MH1 Feb 2019 #266

Could same could be said about Sanders "Visceral Hatred" of democrats looking at Sanders comments .. uponit7771 Feb 2019 #249

You know who is a REAL Democrat? Ralph Northam. He can moonwalk too! aidbo Feb 2019 #253

He attacks democrats and that is triggering, especially considering where we're at ecstatic Feb 2019 #257

Yup. The anti-Semitism is as disgusting as the racism Arazi Feb 2019 #258

+1 JudyM Feb 2019 #277

Actually, anti-Semitism is racism. David__77 Feb 2019 #282

I suspect you will get an arguement from some on that weather it is a race, religion or both. still_one Feb 2019 #286

+1 TheFarseer Feb 2019 #259

So maybe go hang out at BernieUnderground.com? MrGrieves Feb 2019 #269

I find it odd that this chum was thrown in the water today. MrGrieves Feb 2019 #276

Yawn. tavernier Feb 2019 #278

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #280

What a fucking straw man you have set up... GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #288

+1 Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #301

I want to know.... quickesst Feb 2019 #289

The !1 phenomenon is to represent a typo resulting in overzealous typing. It's not some hidden code. aidbo Feb 2019 #303

Ok quickesst Feb 2019 #308

The cult of personality Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #290

+1 LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #304

LOL "visceral" betsuni Feb 2019 #296

Of these quotes, its true Bernie isn't a real Democrat. apnu Feb 2019 #307