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bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
37. In regards to impeachment
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 03:09 PM
Feb 2019

impeachment does not imply criminal it is just a hearing and the House can start proceedings.

I found this regarding Impeachment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment

snip of article:

Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. It does not mean removal from office; it is only a statement of charges, akin to an indictment in criminal law. Once an individual is impeached, he or she must then face the possibility of conviction by a legislative vote, which judgment entails removal from office.

Because impeachment and conviction of officials involve an overturning of the normal constitutional procedures by which individuals achieve high office (election, ratification, or appointment) and because it generally requires a supermajority, they are usually reserved for those deemed to have committed serious abuses of their office. In the United States, for example, impeachment at the federal level is limited to those who may have committed "high crimes and misdemeanors".[1]

Impeachment exists under constitutional law in many countries around the world, including Brazil, the Republic of Ireland, India, the Philippines, Russia, South Korea, and the United States.


More from Wikipedia

Congress regards impeachment as a power to be used only in extreme cases; the House of Representatives has initiated impeachment proceedings only 64 times since 1789 (most recently the 2010 impeachment, then removal from office, of Judge Thomas Porteous of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana) with only the following 19 of these proceedings actually resulting in the House's passing Articles of Impeachment:

Two presidents:

Andrew Johnson, Democrat/National Union, was impeached on February 24, 1868, by the House of Representatives after violating the newly created Tenure of Office Act by a 126 to 47 vote. President Johnson was acquitted by the Senate, which voted 35–19 in favor of conviction, falling one vote short of the necessary two-thirds needed to remove him from office. The Tenure of Office Act would later be found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the United States in dicta.

Bill Clinton, Democrat, was impeached on December 19, 1998, by the House of Representatives on articles charging perjury (specifically, lying to a federal grand jury) by a 228–206 vote and obstruction of justice by a 221–212 vote. The House rejected other articles: one was a count of perjury in a civil deposition in Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit against Clinton (by a 205–229 vote), the second accused Clinton of abuse of power (by a 148–285 vote). President Clinton was acquitted by the Senate. The votes to remove him from office fell short of the necessary two-thirds: 45–55 on obstruction of justice and 50–50 on perjury.
Impeachment proceedings against Richard Nixon were referred to the full House of Representatives for consideration and ended with his resignation.

In 1876, cabinet officer William W. Belknap (former Secretary of War), resigned before his trial and was later acquitted. Allegedly, most of those who voted to acquit him believed that his resignation had removed their jurisdiction.[citation needed]
One Senator, William Blount, in 1797. He was expelled by the Senate, which declined to try the impeachment. This established the precedent that Members of Congress are not subject to impeachment, as they can be removed by action of the House of which they are members without impeachment or any other action being necessary.

One Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, Samuel Chase, impeached in 1804, was acquitted by the Senate.
Fourteen other federal judges. Eight of these have been convicted by the Senate and removed,[40][41] including Alcee Hastings, who was impeached and convicted in 1989 for taking over $150,000 in bribe money in exchange for sentencing leniency. The Senate did not bar Hastings from holding future office, and Hastings won election to the House of Representatives in Florida. Hastings' name was mentioned as a possible Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence but was passed over by House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, presumably because of his previous impeachment and removal.[42]

There have been unsuccessful attempts to initiate impeachment proceedings against Richard Nixon, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump.



I, too, am in this really f***ing impatient, ready for Trump to be out club. Shell_Seas Feb 2019 #1
Because of discovery. DetlefK Feb 2019 #2
Yeah! Why doesn't he focus on the demands of bloggers rather than focus on criminal justice? brooklynite Feb 2019 #3
He's not going to be removed from office. Codeine Feb 2019 #4
Yup ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #5
More people need to be thinking like this. bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #6
THIS. (and the two posts before yours). nt MH1 Feb 2019 #58
That may or may not be true... Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #8
What, so it makes sense to leave him in power so he can do even more damage? infullview Feb 2019 #14
Impeach him all you want, Codeine Feb 2019 #20
The math isn't there RIGHT NOW Poiuyt Feb 2019 #33
what would happen bdamomma Feb 2019 #40
Impeachment is a legal process ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #27
That's not what I said... Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #61
It's the sad truth. And yes, 2020 will be BIG. VOX Feb 2019 #15
Once the firewall (i.e. the Trump family circle) is breached, things could change radically. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #18
nt bdamomma Feb 2019 #41
You know what else is unprecedented? How much republicans don't care. Brawndo Feb 2019 #46
Then we have to hope our elections are fair and not interfered with. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #48
I want Justice as badly as anyone but Brawndo Feb 2019 #50
Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 34 people.... WeekiWater Feb 2019 #7
Soon. There's only a few people left to indict and it will be earthshaking when it happens. NightWatcher Feb 2019 #9
yes there was speculation bdamomma Feb 2019 #42
Be patient. The official transcript of Roger Stone was released over a month before his indictment. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #10
It took Republicans 5 years to impeach Clinton, and they were NYC Liberal Feb 2019 #11
Mueller has one shot at it, so he's got to get it right. That takes time. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2019 #12
He will have to be voted out Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2019 #13
This. People want the immediate solution Codeine Feb 2019 #22
last year, John Dean said NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #49
You don't believe that the Senate has a 2/3 vote to out him. CK_John Feb 2019 #16
If we wait to impeach we might as well rename this country Trumpistan infullview Feb 2019 #17
the House has been at work for just 1 month Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #19
"The Senate will have to cave and oust him. . ." Codeine Feb 2019 #21
That's your opinion. I believe we need to shine light on the facts so peoiple can turn on him. infullview Feb 2019 #25
That's your opinion (redux) LanternWaste Feb 2019 #28
And the possibility that GOP senators will do the right thing for the sake of their country... renate Feb 2019 #32
Enough facts have been unearthed Codeine Feb 2019 #53
+1 Brawndo Feb 2019 #55
Exactly, we, including GOPers, already suspect worse than anyone can prove. Yet, Hoyt Feb 2019 #60
You're not really following this, are you? Mueller has produced numerous indictments & convictions Hekate Feb 2019 #23
I agree Hekate. bdamomma Feb 2019 #39
Its frustrating to watch, but I would rather he runs in 2020 ooky Feb 2019 #24
not much has changed since 2016, don't assume he will lose getagrip_already Feb 2019 #26
I think there have been some fundamental changes, and the mid-terms illustrated that quite accuratel LanternWaste Feb 2019 #29
What if they didn't care about the midterms? getagrip_already Feb 2019 #35
after watching bdamomma Feb 2019 #43
There have been indictments and convictions. KWR65 Feb 2019 #30
Chris Cuomo said on his show that night gldstwmn Feb 2019 #31
For whatever reason, there aren't going to be any "Mueller indicments". Not of Trump. Odoreida Feb 2019 #34
maybe fast food will come to our rescue...... getagrip_already Feb 2019 #36
yes hopefully bdamomma Feb 2019 #44
In regards to impeachment bdamomma Feb 2019 #37
Offs You want the investigation to be done, indictments, convictions AND impeachment. Doremus Feb 2019 #38
You sound concerned. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2019 #45
Your concern has swayed me. I'm giving up. Iggo Feb 2019 #47
That's not how it works. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #51
That never gets old. Codeine Feb 2019 #57
He's not going to be impeached nor will he resign BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #52
Before all of you whine & moan about wanting the Mueller report, please stop & think. napi21 Feb 2019 #54
I think that's as likely an outcome as any. Codeine Feb 2019 #56
I'm certain Mr. Mueller is very concerned about you getting impatient. onenote Feb 2019 #59
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