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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
67. "many people here were very quick to question Smollett's story"
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:43 PM
Feb 2019

So what?

Really. So what?

It’s an internet discussion forum which frequently has discussions of a range of current events.

People speculate and share their opinions of those events.

Sometimes those opinions and impressions differ.

Yes, some people thought it was odd that two people would be hanging out at 2am in arctic cold weather in the general vicinity away from someone’s residence for a targeted attack on the off chance they went out at that hour. These people had the temerity to express themselves ona discussion forum.

So effing what?

Some folks hailed Snowden and Assange as heroes, for example. Some didn’t. Maybe some still do. So what?

Some thought Avenatti was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Some didn’t. Maybe some still do. So what?

I’m sure there are people here who KNOW who killed Jon Benet Ramsey.

This isn’t a courtroom. No one here is going to be on a jury in the case nor will they influence a jury.

Who knows, maybe more facts will come to light and there will be another dramatic turn of events.

Stuff happens. People have opinions, speculations, questions, guesses, and so on. Often, they differ.

You should have been here for the Duke lacrosse thing. That was a real rollercoaster ride.

It’s a shame that people tend to use the infinite and bizarre variety of human events involving real people simply as fodder for one narrative or another, but people are going to do that too.

But insisting “thou shalt not discuss a news item, nor form an impression about it until all the facts are in” on an Internet discussion forum is pretty much pointless.

I still don’t understand the point of the OP in this thread since I was attending a conference when this story broke and don’t remember who said what. Nor do I care. If I ever get so hard up that I keep track of “who thought what about X on DU” then I will have truly run out of things which matter.

If someone’s opinions or way of expressing themselves keeps you up at night, there’s an ignore button. I have a very select list, which tends to rotate, since people on my ignore list tend to go bye-bye before long. But I often find discussingor arguing with people whose opinions differ from mine to be enlightening. What’s truly amazing is that there are people who disagree with me who somehow manage to STILL disagree with me, even after I’ve unequivocally set them straight. Hard to believe, really.

I remember it well Empowerer Feb 2019 #1
Is there proof besides his word that he was attacked? Beakybird Feb 2019 #2
There's physical evidence that he was assaulted EffieBlack Feb 2019 #3
Just so you know jberryhill Feb 2019 #13
I'm an attorney and frequently use the terms interchangeably in normal conversation Empowerer Feb 2019 #17
Bragging about my experience? jberryhill Feb 2019 #20
Interesting EffieBlack Feb 2019 #21
Snicker. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #27
Thank goodness one can find the funny side of a bias attack jberryhill Feb 2019 #48
Because I was not responding to the OP jberryhill Feb 2019 #34
Since when do we put the onus of proof on the victim? KentuckyWoman Feb 2019 #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #4
Enjoy your short stay. nolabear Feb 2019 #5
Oh, now I'm going to wonder what this fool said Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #76
Better question... JHB Feb 2019 #6
What do you like on pizza NOYB? irisblue Feb 2019 #7
We'll never know... Aristus Feb 2019 #14
🍕 delievered. 😂 irisblue Feb 2019 #15
Yes. Aristus Feb 2019 #16
After going in to tbe basement of the interwebz, I found a copy, but can only get it to imgur irisblue Feb 2019 #18
I miss those. They should bring it back. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #82
Signed sealed delivered. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #28
Poster got tombstoned over questioning whether the story adds up. LisaL Feb 2019 #29
The problem... TeeYiYi Feb 2019 #133
Not everyone is as sheltered as you. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #8
You're still here... TeeYiYi Feb 2019 #9
Nothing but crickets so far, I see Empowerer Feb 2019 #10
Some of us have not changed our positions. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #12
Kick Empowerer Feb 2019 #11
Crickets, still Empowerer Feb 2019 #19
I'm not sure how the OP expects people to respond. cwydro Feb 2019 #22
It seems to be an accusation of some kind jberryhill Feb 2019 #31
Yes, it does seem a wee bit accusatory. cwydro Feb 2019 #33
It's one that wasn't on my radar jberryhill Feb 2019 #35
Yes, I missed most of the original story myself because I'm currently traveling. cwydro Feb 2019 #37
I can't tell jberryhill Feb 2019 #38
Lol. cwydro Feb 2019 #50
When is someone going to do something about all these crickets? jberryhill Feb 2019 #58
Nope. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #61
Yes. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #64
"many people here were very quick to question Smollett's story" jberryhill Feb 2019 #67
You've posted 10 times so far in this thread to snark or say you don't get my OP or you don't care EffieBlack Feb 2019 #68
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #69
"previous thread on the topic of this story-You will find a complete absence of any comment from me" EffieBlack Feb 2019 #70
Like i said jberryhill Feb 2019 #72
And maybe i should be more specific jberryhill Feb 2019 #71
Wow, dude. Just ask her to the prom already. Empowerer Feb 2019 #74
Bazinga! George II Feb 2019 #75
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #73
LOL! EffieBlack Feb 2019 #78
My suspicions about his story had nothing whatsoever to do with his phone. cwydro Feb 2019 #81
I'm uneasy with the blanket acceptance Swagman Feb 2019 #108
??? USALiberal Feb 2019 #23
Sounds like he's now being investigated for a possible hoax. Ace Rothstein Feb 2019 #24
It's getting weirder every day. cwydro Feb 2019 #25
Yes it does and as a Chicagoan, I will be upset he chose Chicago for the location to play out this lunasun Feb 2019 #44
Sources: Jussie Smollett staged attack with help of others, allegedly being written off 'Empire' madville Feb 2019 #26
Chicago police are denying these reports. Empire has also denied his being written off the show. grossproffit Feb 2019 #41
I don't know about him being written off. xmas74 Feb 2019 #79
Or maybe there was another reason altogether why he didn't turn over his phone. LisaL Feb 2019 #30
That's what I was thinking madville Feb 2019 #32
I've really reserved judgement on this for a while, but things aren't adding up. cwydro Feb 2019 #36
Does anybody know his motivation for lying? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #39
The motivation suggested on the Chicago area stations is that he was being written off the show. cwydro Feb 2019 #40
Well. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #65
I think it was publicity. cwydro Feb 2019 #83
Reminds me of those faked receipts happybird Feb 2019 #104
Why wouldn't the police just subpoena the phone records? PTWB Feb 2019 #42
Probably already been done madville Feb 2019 #46
true USALiberal Feb 2019 #97
Word on the street... Dr. Strange Feb 2019 #100
presumably they would if they think the story is bogus Swagman Feb 2019 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author superpatriotman Feb 2019 #43
would he be ever justified with lying? Demonaut Feb 2019 #45
Nope madville Feb 2019 #47
This hasn't aged well. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #49
noooope. 912gdm Feb 2019 #52
And looks worse by the day. n/t QC Feb 2019 #96
I wonder if she knows about self delete? Mosby Feb 2019 #125
Seems a fair question. Tipperary Feb 2019 #134
The last thing I paid attention to about this was that PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #51
He declared unequivocally yesterday on GMA that those were the guys too. cwydro Feb 2019 #59
The one thing that struck me as odd GusBob Feb 2019 #53
I thought it odd that two MAGA supporters would recognize an actor in the middle of the night. cwydro Feb 2019 #55
Okay, but... MountCleaners Feb 2019 #62
Yep. xmas74 Feb 2019 #80
Yeah, I used to live in Boys Town MountCleaners Feb 2019 #86
All very odd DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #54
Sounding more and more the reason for not turning over the phone ... because it was a hoax Raine Feb 2019 #56
The lawyer for the two accused say they are friends with Smollett. cwydro Feb 2019 #57
rumor is that Smollett was going lose his TV role Demovictory9 Feb 2019 #85
Remember when the two people arrested in the case were coworkers of his? jberryhill Feb 2019 #60
Wait. Is that crickets I hear? cwydro Feb 2019 #63
Two arrests this afternoon - both charged with battery. Chicago police don't arrest suspects... George II Feb 2019 #66
Two men have been released without charging dalton99a Feb 2019 #77
And Smollet just hired Michael Monico as his defense attorney. Dr. Strange Feb 2019 #87
CPD now says they were released due to "new evidence" madville Feb 2019 #88
My guess madville Feb 2019 #84
And now, it turns out Smollett has hired Michael Cohen's attorney. cwydro Feb 2019 #89
CPD says they have new evidence from the two brothers madville Feb 2019 #90
Oh my. cwydro Feb 2019 #91
I'm thinking this isn't going to end well for someone. cwydro Feb 2019 #92
Latest news is Smollett has retained a defense attorney madville Feb 2019 #94
Chicago detectives are 'eager to speak to Jussie Smollett' after new information emerges madville Feb 2019 #95
Police sources: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated attack melman Feb 2019 #98
Brothers say Jussie Smollett paid them to participate in alleged attack, source says melman Feb 2019 #99
That answers the proof question. Apparently there are receipts! Beartracks Feb 2019 #101
Perhaps there are crickets because this story keeps changing and I don't know what to think. catbyte Feb 2019 #102
'I showed the cops my call history, but didn't want to give them possession of my phone' greyl Feb 2019 #103
Now it looks as though he is going before a grand jury. Tipperary Feb 2019 #135
Regardless of how this turns out, civil liberties exist for a reason.... SaschaHM Feb 2019 #105
You're absolutely right EffieBlack Feb 2019 #106
Perhaps another example might have served your case better. cwydro Feb 2019 #107
Actually, this example proves my argument perfectly EffieBlack Feb 2019 #115
No. It doesn't. cwydro Feb 2019 #116
You felt the need to devote considerable time and effort - and 20+ posts EffieBlack Feb 2019 #119
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #120
"It takes me about 30 seconds to write a post" EffieBlack Feb 2019 #124
So I guess you are still arguing his credibility shouldn't be questioned? Despite the recent reports LisaL Feb 2019 #110
It is confusing, isn't it. cwydro Feb 2019 #111
If it should be used as an example, I would think that we shouldn't automatically believe LisaL Feb 2019 #112
Yes, I think the Smollett example has proved exactly the opposite point desired by those OPs. cwydro Feb 2019 #114
It's clear the point was completely lost on you EffieBlack Feb 2019 #117
If someone doesn't agree with you, then they miss the point? cwydro Feb 2019 #123
I'm not arguing that at all - never have EffieBlack Feb 2019 #118
he lied. Inkfreak Feb 2019 #113
yep. Demovictory9 Feb 2019 #121
He's made himself look stupid, if nothing else. cwydro Feb 2019 #122
So any thoughts on the damage this may do to credibility of future victims? MrGrieves Feb 2019 #126
Yes EffieBlack Feb 2019 #127
Huh? Tipperary Feb 2019 #131
This incident should be learning opportunity for everyone. Vinnie From Indy Feb 2019 #128
Agreed. MrGrieves Feb 2019 #129
+1 Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #130
+1 Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #132
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