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DFW

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56. I see the key phrase as "for all"
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:17 AM
Feb 2019

If you fail high school, you shouldn't be in college, free or paid (athletic scholarships should be a relic of the past). If your family has a post-tax income of $500,000 or more, unless you have five kids in Ivy League college at once, you should be able to afford tuition, room and board. I inherited some cash from my parents' estate, and I used ALL of it for my children's college education (barely covered it). Maybe my income couldn't cover it, but the inheritance did, and I wasn't going to deprive some other deserving kid of a scholarship if I had the means to pay and he/she didn't.

As far as college tuition is concerned, I think Marx was right: "from each according to his ability to each according to his needs." It wasn't free for my or my family, but we didn't need it. College isn't free. The buildings need maintenance, the professors need salaries, research needs to be funded, the library needs a librarian, and a LOT of etc. You can confiscate the net worth of Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett and not come close to providing "free" college tuition for every college student in the USA for even four years. About 16 million college students in the USA, take the average in-state tuition of around $10,000 times 4 and that's around $640 billion unless I missed a zero somewhere.

She has really dropped on my list manor321 Feb 2019 #1
Amy is setting herself up to be the status quo candidate dflprincess Feb 2019 #4
Shows a lack of creativity. You can be for something in theory Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #43
Just saying yes is also lazy when you have no way of implementing it brooklynite Feb 2019 #112
+1 Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #80
That's not true AT ALL. Free community college isn't the status quo. pnwmom Feb 2019 #103
She is definitely playing it safe Lotusflower70 Feb 2019 #7
Not middle of the road to me. That implies that Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #44
That's pretty much the definition of Codeine Feb 2019 #92
Ya well I am not voting for anyone in primary Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #97
Four year college degrees aren't necessarily the best for everyone. pnwmom Feb 2019 #41
With out current public/private university spit.... Adrahil Feb 2019 #69
True dflprincess Feb 2019 #85
Well, sorta zipplewrath Feb 2019 #86
I said 4 years, not 2 years. I think most people could accept the idea of taxpayers pnwmom Feb 2019 #87
Totally agree workinclasszero Feb 2019 #75
I agree with her. For most people, 2 years of CC is better than a 4 year degree. marylandblue Feb 2019 #2
Yet she didn't say 2 years did she? She doesn't seem Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #45
I just watched the video and she definitely said 2 years free. marylandblue Feb 2019 #50
My bad. That is great... sorry only saw clip Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #64
2 years of free community college would put many in position for a oasis Feb 2019 #3
Yes this is more attainable than gratis 4 year college degrees BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #10
Plenty of hard work and soul searching can occur within 2 years. nt oasis Feb 2019 #14
And they might get a job after two year of CC which gets them tuition benefits dawg day Feb 2019 #54
Agree 100%. nt oasis Feb 2019 #61
This is true. susanna Feb 2019 #60
Yup. The value of Community Colleges should never be underestimated. oasis Feb 2019 #62
Thank you, oasis! susanna Feb 2019 #100
I agree with her BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #5
Agreed Lotusflower70 Feb 2019 #6
It's not free in Europe either BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #8
I dont have a problem with it not being totally... TJKay Feb 2019 #15
So do I Raine Feb 2019 #55
Someone needs to explain to me how the federal government DURHAM D Feb 2019 #9
Good question Lotusflower70 Feb 2019 #12
Bernie Sanders' College for All Act says Eric J in MN Feb 2019 #13
iows - this four years of college for free is DURHAM D Feb 2019 #23
They will fall for it. leftofcool Feb 2019 #33
So he wants to charge taxpayers double the cost for free tuition? marylandblue Feb 2019 #52
If the federal government said it would cover Eric J in MN Feb 2019 #98
It's still not free. Skidmore Feb 2019 #57
There is no income test...that was horrible in Georgia's hope scholorship program...as the wealthy Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #71
How can they fund it? shanny Feb 2019 #40
Why do we need 1.3 million active military? Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #46
Sensible approach. apcalc Feb 2019 #11
Realistic no longer plays well in primaries Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #22
I think that there is more bang for the buck TexasTowelie Feb 2019 #16
She's for debt free college kennetha Feb 2019 #17
Good points. nt DURHAM D Feb 2019 #24
I like the idea of debt-free or very, very low interest college loans. phylny Feb 2019 #81
I agree with her. Maybe free for children in families with under $500,000 gross income for all allgood33 Feb 2019 #18
I tentatively agree ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #19
Unless there is a plan to shore up General Education (K-12), then this is a waste Lithos Feb 2019 #20
Having seen first hand radical noodle Feb 2019 #21
Reasonable. But there's a big difference between KPN Feb 2019 #36
Agree. We need more than refinancing radical noodle Feb 2019 #51
Right. We need to expect more from our candidates if we actually want to get more relief than the KPN Feb 2019 #76
Elizabeth Warren talks about student loan issues radical noodle Feb 2019 #84
36% of high school grads enroll in college by age 25 Recursion Feb 2019 #25
BS. The vast majority of college graduates with KPN Feb 2019 #34
Yes, and the "middle class" is mostly in the richer half of the income distribution Recursion Feb 2019 #35
We're talking about students coming out of KPN Feb 2019 #38
I mostly do write off single payer. Again, it's regressive. Recursion Feb 2019 #42
"The middle class is doing fine ...". How do you define "fine" Recursion? I'm curious about that. KPN Feb 2019 #66
Yes, anyone who *can* pay that is doing fine Recursion Feb 2019 #67
Well, we disagree then. There are boatloads of KPN Feb 2019 #74
And that is the problem with that pipe dream. pnwmom Feb 2019 #104
I have asked this question several times and have yet to get an answer MichMan Feb 2019 #26
Good point Lotusflower70 Feb 2019 #30
I am not impressed with her. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #27
+1. ( Although you forgot mean to her employees ;) Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #47
That is one of those things that I can't quite get over. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #49
Seemed like it took some time to respond to it Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #65
Shoot low. That way you're never disappointed. KPN Feb 2019 #28
I don't think "free" four year college is possible but Renew Deal Feb 2019 #29
The only thing "free" is war hibbing Feb 2019 #31
I agree with Amy leftofcool Feb 2019 #32
Unless it's made ALOT more affordable there are plenty of poor people who will be onecaliberal Feb 2019 #37
Well, thats inspiring. . CentralMass Feb 2019 #39
There are candidates who more enthusiastically.. mvd Feb 2019 #48
i teach community college: dawg day Feb 2019 #53
I see the key phrase as "for all" DFW Feb 2019 #56
School is mostly a waste of time radius777 Feb 2019 #58
lulz obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #63
Wow. That's a lot of nonsense Codeine Feb 2019 #93
I agree with her on this but her stance on healthcare Luciferous Feb 2019 #59
Free community college was an Obama initiative Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #68
I really like her. She's amazing, and true to her principles. Calista241 Feb 2019 #70
I agree with her mcar Feb 2019 #72
Only private schools should be expensive Drahthaardogs Feb 2019 #73
Great, thoughtful, respectful discussion of cilla4progress Feb 2019 #77
It's my understanding that.... bunny planet Feb 2019 #78
She's better than Tulsi Gabbard gibraltar72 Feb 2019 #79
It doesn't take much Lotusflower70 Feb 2019 #91
It's Low Bar Wednesday! Codeine Feb 2019 #94
Midwest, women, educated, left to center left Renew Deal Feb 2019 #108
I want big ideas from a candidate at this point. gldstwmn Feb 2019 #82
That's called being a grown up kennetha Feb 2019 #88
Is throwing things and screaming at people gldstwmn Feb 2019 #90
No to free college... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #83
That behavior bothers me. n/t gldstwmn Feb 2019 #89
It's a reasonable position. Not everybody belongs in college, Hortensis Feb 2019 #95
Totally agree with her. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #96
Let's means test. RandySF Feb 2019 #102
I agree with her on this. Sapient Donkey Feb 2019 #99
I'm against universal free tuition RandySF Feb 2019 #101
I agree. allgood33 Feb 2019 #110
mealy. wimped out. go bold or stay home. the moron is gonna promise the barn. pansypoo53219 Feb 2019 #105
She should announce a free space force college Renew Deal Feb 2019 #107
She is being realistic nightwing1240 Feb 2019 #106
From what I understand xmas74 Feb 2019 #109
Given the existence of online learning, I don't see why this is such a big deal. Vinca Feb 2019 #111
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