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In reply to the discussion: 9-0 SCOTUS ruling against asset forfeiture, this is a big deal [View all]KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)73. I've always seen CAF as conviction without due process because....
once assets have been seized, they're extremely difficult (and expensive) to get back.
For example, let's say a guy is caught with drugs or stolen property in his car at night, and cops take the car to an impound lot. Unfortunately, the guy's wife has to have that car to earn much of the family's normal income. Does it not require quite an ordeal to get the vehicle released back to that family?
Why not rather than seizure, somehow earmark the asset with identification for the court with a condition it can't be sold pending due process in court, so that subsequent court action could order seizure if justified?
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Interestingly, this splits with people on the wrong side being both Democrats and Republicans
The Mouth
Feb 2019
#37
Manafort was convicted of tax fraud. I suspect his fines, penalties, including jail time, would
Hoyt
Feb 2019
#15
I believe Manafort violated his house arrest and therefore his bail arrangement which
infullview
Feb 2019
#32
as a former public defender, the confiscations were used for pot users which pissed me off.
Hamlette
Feb 2019
#62
Absolutely. I have always wanted to do a cross-country roadtrip, but the risk of encountering these
alwaysinasnit
Feb 2019
#22
I wish you well, and safe travels. I would be nice to hear about the interesting attractions, so
alwaysinasnit
Feb 2019
#41
Yep and seized funds and property are used to fund the War on Drugs (which mostly, means pot).
Volaris
Feb 2019
#65
Does this apply to RICO convictions, too? And what about Manafort forfeiting up to $50M?
George II
Feb 2019
#23
Who gives a fuck, fund it with a plan not taking advantage of people. Read more about the abuse!! nt
USALiberal
Feb 2019
#49
Then the states need to raise taxes or stop wasting tax payer dollars on imprisoning people
tymorial
Feb 2019
#77
As a criminal defense attorney I have seen the power of civil asset forfeiture abused by county
Pepsidog
Feb 2019
#51
In some cases where property was purchased with ill-gotten gains, then forfeiture was appropriate.
Pepsidog
Feb 2019
#75
is this just for drugs? cuz I still totally support this practice against poachers....
samnsara
Feb 2019
#76
And the case cited was actually a pretty reasonable connection between assets and crime.
BobTheSubgenius
Feb 2019
#85