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Caliman73

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6. So all work is prostitution?

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:35 AM

Feb 2019

We all consent to work but I am sure that not many of us would be working our jobs if our economic survival didn't depend on it.

Work is work. Some people fix cars, some dig ditches, some program computers, some people don't feel there is anything wrong with sex for money.

Sexual freedom is about using your sexuality in ANY way that you want so long as it is not harming anyone else. When you assume that all sex workers are "being exploited" that feeds into the idea that somehow sex is wrong and women need to be protected from themselves. The stigma about sex work comes from that puritanical thinking that says women must be chaste and sex should only be for love and marriage.

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Is it time to legalize prostitution? [View all] Caliman73 Feb 2019 OP

Having had close friends who worked as escorts musicblind Feb 2019 #1

no, sexual freedom is about consensual sex because one WANTS to have sex with someone JI7 Feb 2019 #2

So all work is prostitution? Caliman73 Feb 2019 #6

no, fixing cars and digging ditches for money is not the same as having sex with someone for money JI7 Feb 2019 #9

Sex work is work. littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #31

The political situation is worse than this qualitative analysis janterry Feb 2019 #42

Thanks for sharing the blog. Did you read any of the abstracts? littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #51

As a second wave feminist janterry Feb 2019 #55

When you are hungry and hurting there's not much littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #60

Yup, + 1000 janterry Feb 2019 #38

Your OP and these posts of yours are just so gross obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #57

None of that is so personal treestar Feb 2019 #76

And nobody by WANTS to be a janitor either. crazytown Feb 2019 #17

most people would rather be a janitor than have sex with guys like Trump and Kraft for money JI7 Feb 2019 #26

Not everyone gets a kick out of cleaning toilets nt crazytown Feb 2019 #30

there are many other jobs and fucking guys like trump and kraft is worse than cleaning toilets JI7 Feb 2019 #33

'Cleaning Toilets' was a reference to Trump :) crazytown Feb 2019 #64

i know people who clean toilets and they financially independent JI7 Feb 2019 #50

'Cleaning Toilets' was a snarky reference to Trump. crazytown Feb 2019 #65

+1 treestar Feb 2019 #79

I agree Dorian Gray Feb 2019 #54

+1 treestar Feb 2019 #75

Not now loyalsister Feb 2019 #3

That is an interesting take. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #8

US culture has not been union friendly for decades loyalsister Feb 2019 #71

And their current situation isn't damaging and exploitable? Lancero Feb 2019 #12

Obviously it is loyalsister Feb 2019 #70

Kraft's ugly old ass being able to buy sex is about sexual freedom for women ? JI7 Feb 2019 #4

Interesting... Caliman73 Feb 2019 #5

Long overdue. Behind the Aegis Feb 2019 #7

Then there is the issue of some low iq women being exploited. That applegrove Feb 2019 #10

Yes. There would be a great many things that would need to be worked out. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #11

Yes, the devil is certainly in the details Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #15

Yes, a large percentage of prostitutes are on drugs. LuvNewcastle Feb 2019 #18

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #67

Looks like there will be a new rash of law enforcement crackdowns instead. Kablooie Feb 2019 #13

I support legalization but those women would have still been trafficked. RandySF Feb 2019 #14

It's legal in Australia, well regulated and widely accepted crazytown Feb 2019 #16

When they legalized it, Australia had to create a special police force to deal with the explosion Squinch Feb 2019 #20

No a task force to deal with the trafficking they Uncovered crazytown Feb 2019 #27

Sure. Because no one ever knew it existed before. It was legalized and all of a sudden Squinch Feb 2019 #28

I lived through it, did you? crazytown Feb 2019 #32

Lived through what? Squinch Feb 2019 #34

The process of legalisation. crazytown Feb 2019 #44

Gosh. That makes you an expert on that new police force that had to be created to deal with Squinch Feb 2019 #45

And your experience is? crazytown Feb 2019 #48

I think you are the one dismissing real world reports. Squinch Feb 2019 #49

Fine. Dont take my world for it. crazytown Feb 2019 #61

Yes. The legal prostitutes are very healthy. And at the same time, the country is being Squinch Feb 2019 #62

No it is not. crazytown Feb 2019 #66

You are correct on Australian immigration policy, crazytown. roamer65 Feb 2019 #93

Many average day folks become sexworkers in Australia to supplement their income. roamer65 Feb 2019 #83

a "healthy attitude towards sex" is not an issue here treestar Feb 2019 #84

I believe crazytown is saying they are Australian and/or lived in Australia during... DRoseDARs Feb 2019 #94

+1 roamer65 Feb 2019 #96

Not respectable argumentation to try to stuff words into opponent's mouth. Nor is binary thinking. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2019 #72

I'd say it is... TreasonousBastard Feb 2019 #19

When wealthy women choose to walk the streets in appreciable numbers, Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #21

This. Squinch Feb 2019 #23

Excellent point. nt littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #36

100% this -- is is "choice" because of economics obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #58

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #68

That logic is as useless as saying ... Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2019 #80

+1 treestar Feb 2019 #82

Every effing time a trafficking story comes out, we have to have this conversation again Squinch Feb 2019 #22

Freedom and privacy, just like abortion. safeinOhio Feb 2019 #24

And if you're a 14 year old girl being trafficked, which does not stop with legalization but Squinch Feb 2019 #29

Legal means regulated. safeinOhio Feb 2019 #37

Here. Squinch Feb 2019 #43

it's actually a pretty complicated issue Locrian Feb 2019 #69

do you have any figures showing child exploitation is lowered treestar Feb 2019 #87

Prostitution is not equivalent to abortion EffieBlack Feb 2019 #74

It's not the same treestar Feb 2019 #85

No janterry Feb 2019 #25

One of the arguments against safeinOhio Feb 2019 #39

Again, as I posted above janterry Feb 2019 #47

Here is a plan that works in Nepal safeinOhio Feb 2019 #59

It is a woman's "right" to be a prostitute? treestar Feb 2019 #88

geez just legalize it... samnsara Feb 2019 #35

And Dorian Gray Feb 2019 #53

77 countries have legalized prostitution Brainstormy Feb 2019 #40

And Australia. roamer65 Feb 2019 #78

Sex work is work and it's less about sex and work but littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #41

I'm of roughly the same opinion on this as I am regarding illicit drugs. ForgedCrank Feb 2019 #46

Criminalise all BUT the prostitutes. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #52

THIS is really the answer. But we both know it will never happen. Squinch Feb 2019 #63

Yep. Traditionally it was illegal because of the morality of men treestar Feb 2019 #90

Using an event that entails human trafficking victims of "jack shacks" to make your point obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #56

No. ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #73

Legalization is really about getting men off the hook for paying for aex EffieBlack Feb 2019 #77

+1 treestar Feb 2019 #91

That is a good point. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #98

Absolutely. I've been saying this for the last 20 years. This would benefit women. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #81

I vote Snackshack Feb 2019 #86

Correct. Legalize, regulate and tax it. roamer65 Feb 2019 #95

Wel said! Snackshack Feb 2019 #99

In abstract, an argument can be made for it. mn9driver Feb 2019 #89

Yes, like a hundred years ago. former9thward Feb 2019 #92

. LadyHawkAZ Feb 2019 #97

Long past time Lordquinton Feb 2019 #100

No. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2019 #101