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MicaelS

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119. Unfortunately, repression of Christianity has, and still happens....

Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:59 PM

Mar 2019

In other parts of the world, (China and the ME) and this gives Christians in the rest of the world, ammunition to say "See it is STILL happening."

The harsh fact is modern Christians belief that they are under attack or oppressed, goes back to the beginnings of the faith. It is part and parcel of the faith. It REALLY did happen back then, and unfortunately like many oppressed peoples throughout history, as soon as Christians got real power, they became oppressive. Must be part of the human condition. Look at the ME.

I agree with what you wrote. Good post.

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What are those black spots on peoples forheads on msnbc? [View all] yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2019 OP

ashes for Lent Fresh_Start Mar 2019 #1

What's today? Bantamfancier Mar 2019 #2

Guess what day it is! zaj Mar 2019 #76

It's Ash Wednesday, the first day of Lent, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #3

Today is Ash Wednesday. n/t GP6971 Mar 2019 #4

Years ago, I worked at Kinko's... targetpractice Mar 2019 #5

I. Love. That. lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #8

... Raster Mar 2019 #26

michael caputo has one? yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2019 #6

Pelosi had hers during a TV appearance SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #18

And Santorum, of course. nt tblue37 Mar 2019 #69

And Ted Lieu. Catholics make up a fifth of the population. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #103

Michael Caputo was celebrating ASS Wednesday. democratisphere Mar 2019 #133

Tribal branding. lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #7

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #14

Even though I know what it is, I am always surprised every year the first time I see someone smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #9

Me too... HipChick Mar 2019 #10

be nice to your brain Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #12

so, what do you think of Hindus wearing the bindi? nt MH1 Mar 2019 #75

Oh that's okay. Also, don't speak ill of Muslims on DU Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #120

You are absolutely correct. phylny Mar 2019 #206

It's a death cult rusty fender Mar 2019 #15

Join the line malaise Mar 2019 #16

I too am a recovering Catholic SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #19

I recovered ages ago malaise Mar 2019 #24

I'm a recovery Jew... dubyadiprecession Mar 2019 #102

I am in that line. Went to Catholic school all the way through high school. jrthin Mar 2019 #113

also a recovering cathaholic and ash wednesday is certain rampartc Mar 2019 #30

Funny rusty fender Mar 2019 #101

A death cult? Really? Shemp Howard Mar 2019 #163

Depends on how you define death cult rusty fender Mar 2019 #164

Catholics are so happy that death is the good part to them. lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #170

Uh, no.. That's one of the silliest statements I've heard in awhile, whathehell Mar 2019 #181

Or how erroneously you interpret the religion.. whathehell Mar 2019 #185

Oh, "death cult" my ass.. whathehell Mar 2019 #180

Cult plus time equals religion. nt TeamPooka Mar 2019 #17

Hindus wear the bindi all the time MH1 Mar 2019 #78

Exactly...Many religions, like Judaism & Islam, for instance, whathehell Mar 2019 #182

I made sure to let everybody know I'd be late today due to ash wed....my co worker asked and what UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #11

"Remember that you are dust, and to dust you shall return." harumph Mar 2019 #13

I was somewhat surprised that reporters were on DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #20

Why would they do that? Mariana Mar 2019 #127

This is ridiculous Dorian Gray Mar 2019 #199

I saw a drive by Ash on the Go today. rickford66 Mar 2019 #21

It tells me that I missed Mardi Gras again. nt Buns_of_Fire Mar 2019 #22

When I was younger it meant I had a hangover! GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #23

Given how much we all hate the Narcissist-in-Chief, I don't understand pnwmom Mar 2019 #25

+1 lunamagica Mar 2019 #43

People mock what they don't understand. MH1 Mar 2019 #81

except that religion is in no way harmless lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #172

nothing in human culture is harmless MH1 Mar 2019 #178

Religion claims to be divinely inspired. That's what needs to be exposed. lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #198

Because Christianity is misogynistic, racist, bigoted, anti-human bullshit? stopbush Mar 2019 #116

It most certainly is not. Some mislead people are, but Christianity is not. nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #126

The majority of Christian voters in 2016 cast their ballots for Trump. Mariana Mar 2019 #132

Like I said, misled. Not Christian. nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #146

You get to decide who's a Christian and who isn't? Mariana Mar 2019 #159

If they try to live by the teachings of Jesus then they are Christians. Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #196

The majority of CATHOLICS did not. Evangelical Christians heavily voted for Trump, pnwmom Mar 2019 #184

I've always been on the receiving end of religious hatred. lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #173

Do you apply the same belief system to Islam and Judaism? MicaelS Mar 2019 #131

Do you bash all religions or just Christianity? pnwmom Mar 2019 #183

All religions are bullshit. stopbush Mar 2019 #209

Where are your posts bashing people who mark Yom kippur? pnwmom Mar 2019 #215

I don't owe you anything. I write about what I choose to write about. stopbush Mar 2019 #216

Right. You only bash Catholics or other Christians here. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #218

When I start seeing evidence of repentance and humility in religious people lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #171

There's nothing that says they have to leave it on. It's a bit sanctimonious. YOHABLO Mar 2019 #27

That's exactly how he looked. I was raised Catholic and that's EXACTLY lilactime Mar 2019 #28

Yes, the ashes grew proportionally bigger and darker as market share declined BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #29

As I recall, it depended on whether the priest had just dipped his fingers in the ash Demit Mar 2019 #31

None of the smudges looked like Cuomo's though. lilactime Mar 2019 #32

Lol, you should've come to my parish Demit Mar 2019 #35

I went to Catholic school for 12 years. Don't tell me what I'm "trying" to do. lilactime Mar 2019 #36

Different everywhere Snerd Mar 2019 #144

Welcome to DU, Snerd! pnwmom Mar 2019 #190

Back in those days and still today it all depends on the priest. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #108

Is that what Pelosi was doing? onenote Mar 2019 #40

Thanks, onenote. Not just dumb. There's some meanness here. While there are plenty pnwmom Mar 2019 #48

Exactly! BuddhaGirl Mar 2019 #74

Check out the religion forum wryter2000 Mar 2019 #82

"Critiquing" Christianity is one of the main sports around here. n/t MicaelS Mar 2019 #95

Yes, while being excruciatingly "PC" about other religions.. whathehell Mar 2019 #188

Aptly stated. nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #124

Um, yeah.. If we can allow hijabs every day, we can certainly whathehell Mar 2019 #189

Agree Dorian Gray Mar 2019 #200

There's nothing that says that we have to remove it, either. WillowTree Mar 2019 #87

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #33

As a child, I used to wash them off once I got to school MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #34

Episcopalians do it too. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #39

They do! MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #41

We sure as heck do wryter2000 Mar 2019 #77

We were supposed to wear it the rest of the day. There is nothing new about this. nt pnwmom Mar 2019 #49

That exact reading is read on Ash Wednesday wryter2000 Mar 2019 #84

Even though I no longer practice, I still like the message of Ash Wednesday MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #111

So do Methodists. xmas74 Mar 2019 #97

Biden has been doing it for at least a decade LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #37

Obama poked him in the forehead dalton99a Mar 2019 #46

Ashes for Lent...yesterday was the beginning of lent... Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #38

We saw two women last night who looked like they had been shot Greybnk48 Mar 2019 #42

How do grown adults not know what ash Wednesday is? scheming daemons Mar 2019 #44

Well, I couldn't remember why people would do that, yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2019 #56

You weren't mocking anybody. You were just asking a question. pnwmom Mar 2019 #59

Lawrence O'Donnell is Catholic LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #45

So what? His Catholic guest, Maria Kumar, did. nt pnwmom Mar 2019 #47

Didn't you comment that you are suppose to wear it the rest of the day? LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #67

Normally you would get it at an early morning mass, so it's often long gone by lunchtime. It's not OnDoutside Mar 2019 #129

Not every Catholic does. Catholics aren't a monolith. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #152

Some of the above posts are the equivalent of mocking Jews for Yom Kippur, pnwmom Mar 2019 #50

I agree radical noodle Mar 2019 #52

Whole groups for that zipplewrath Mar 2019 #60

When the beliefs are make-believe they deserve bashing. The people deserve respect. lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #175

Although I was raised in a religious household radical noodle Mar 2019 #193

+1 CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #53

+1000 BuddhaGirl Mar 2019 #79

+1000 MH1 Mar 2019 #83

I agree that the OP didn't do that. But others here have. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #89

Oh I totally agree. nt MH1 Mar 2019 #104

Also agree RelativelyJones Mar 2019 #155

Thank you Retrograde Mar 2019 #88

Good idea, Retrograde. nt pnwmom Mar 2019 #92

Bang on 100% MicaelS Mar 2019 #96

I'm not sure how "un"official it is, lol GaYellowDawg Mar 2019 #114

Unfortunately, repression of Christianity has, and still happens.... MicaelS Mar 2019 #119

It's The Same RobinA Mar 2019 #117

You can mock Christians and Jews to your heart's content here. theboss Mar 2019 #140

Concur MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #179

Are religions protected from mocking?... SidDithers Mar 2019 #205

I don't see people mocking Jewish or Muslim religious practices here. As I said, pnwmom Mar 2019 #207

... SidDithers Mar 2019 #208

There may not be mocking sarisataka Mar 2019 #210

I don't think you can have a discussion about Islam here theboss Mar 2019 #213

On Ash Wednesday, ashes to go with a little extra sparkle for LGBT Christians mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #51

My sister-in-law's mother wore a smudge of ash on her forehead last night. Aristus Mar 2019 #54

I don't remember news anchors doing this when I was growing up. Is this a new thing? jalan48 Mar 2019 #55

No. nt pnwmom Mar 2019 #58

Not a lot of Catholics in high tv positions theboss Mar 2019 #66

That makes sense. Kennedy was the first Catholic President as I recall. jalan48 Mar 2019 #73

First and only, though Catholics make up a fifth of the population. nt pnwmom Mar 2019 #93

The Supreme Court is packed with Catholics though. jalan48 Mar 2019 #98

Yes, it is, and I disagree with that. It's happened mostly pnwmom Mar 2019 #99

It seems there are now. n/t. whathehell Mar 2019 #187

It's for people who believe in magic oldlibdem Mar 2019 #57

LOL-Adam and Eve, virgin birth, etc. jalan48 Mar 2019 #61

Voted ,to leave post bahrbearian Mar 2019 #62

thank you oldlibdem Mar 2019 #65

Yep, nailed it. Brawndo Mar 2019 #142

What? You don't believe in unicorns? The Tooth Fairy? Santa? The God Thor? lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #174

Mayby the great pumpkin and the easter bunny oldlibdem Mar 2019 #214

My son taught undergrad physics classes as... Duppers Mar 2019 #217

I remember an undergraduate philosophy class I was In and the Professor was asking for proof oldlibdem Mar 2019 #219

I don't think it is appropriate that they go on screen gopiscrap Mar 2019 #63

Inappropriate to wear a symbol of repentance once a year? Is it inappropriate pnwmom Mar 2019 #86

for her no, that's a part of her dress every day of the year gopiscrap Mar 2019 #121

It's a religious symbol she wears every day of the year. Why does that make it better? pnwmom Mar 2019 #154

You have a very selective idea of what is appropriate. RelativelyJones Mar 2019 #156

Is it appropriate for Ilhan Omar to wear her hijab when she's on TV? WillowTree Mar 2019 #110

yes because that is a part of her permanent dress gopiscrap Mar 2019 #122

Ashes on the forehead for repentence dates to the 11th century (at least) harumph Mar 2019 #123

And the Ash Wednesday ashes are a part of a Catholic's permanent faith. WillowTree Mar 2019 #130

It is a visual expression of her personal beliefs, just like a Christian wearing ashes on Ash Wed. pnwmom Mar 2019 #191

Precisely -- Good point. whathehell Mar 2019 #186

I don't think it's necessarily inappropriate. Mariana Mar 2019 #137

that's why it annoys me gopiscrap Mar 2019 #141

Showing off what exactly? theboss Mar 2019 #147

That's false. When I used to do it I didn't do it to show off. As an introvert, when I used to pnwmom Mar 2019 #192

sounds like you are in religion for the wrong reasons. Inkfreak Mar 2019 #202

get over it. Inkfreak Mar 2019 #201

Given what time some of the TV people have to be at work, grumpyduck Mar 2019 #64

Larger cities have multiple services xmas74 Mar 2019 #100

I try not to bash people for their religious beliefs. Just happen to think Enoki33 Mar 2019 #68

Do you feel that way about Tlaib's hajib? onenote Mar 2019 #70

Tlaib's hijab is part of her normal dress. Enoki33 Mar 2019 #71

It's part of her religious identity onenote Mar 2019 #72

Not sure what you meant by one closeted away. Let me be clear. I have never Enoki33 Mar 2019 #107

Apparently you don't think Catholics who observe Ash Wednesday should be seen in public. onenote Mar 2019 #109

Don't think l said that - simply that l thought it was sanctimonious. Enoki33 Mar 2019 #135

More sanctimonious....... WillowTree Mar 2019 #139

Try not to twist what l said. Read what l originally wrote again. Have a nice day. Enoki33 Mar 2019 #143

What you said is that you think the wearing of ashes "should not be publicly displayed." onenote Mar 2019 #160

Twisting not needed. Reads pretty simple. Inkfreak Mar 2019 #203

Her normal dress includes an outward sign of her religious beliefs. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #106

She only wears it because she believes in magic, right? ripcord Mar 2019 #177

I do LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #91

Agreed LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #90

It is no different from Ilhan Mobar and her headwear. Both are outward signs pnwmom Mar 2019 #105

It's not sanctimonious - it dates at least from the 11th century. harumph Mar 2019 #125

Would you say that to a Jew wearing a yarmulke ? MicaelS Mar 2019 #134

A lesson in religious diversity. Throck Mar 2019 #80

Catholics putinwork Mar 2019 #85

I wondered that too. I thought they were all bruised..then remembered it has.... samnsara Mar 2019 #94

IMO, news show hosts should not wear religious imagery. Doodley Mar 2019 #112

And yet.......there's still that pesky First Amendment....... WillowTree Mar 2019 #115

Exactly. Mariana Mar 2019 #138

Your thoughts on th hijab? theboss Mar 2019 #145

Why? Mariana Mar 2019 #162

How do you feel about a newscaster wearing a MAGA hat? Or wearing Scientology Sea Org garb? Doodley Mar 2019 #149

This has nothing to do with politics. pnwmom Mar 2019 #151

Scientology is a religion. Doodley Mar 2019 #157

Scientology began as a Sci-Fi novel, and then the leader decided pnwmom Mar 2019 #158

The point is? Doodley Mar 2019 #166

Not every group that tries to call itself a religion gets that IRS designation pnwmom Mar 2019 #167

So to be clear, you think observant Muslims who wear the hajib onenote Mar 2019 #161

One should dress for the job. Doodley Mar 2019 #165

In what other jobs would such dress be inappropriate onenote Mar 2019 #168

Yes, yes, and yes. Doodley Mar 2019 #194

When I was in High School they had to let us "go to church" SoCalDem Mar 2019 #118

Now THAT is... 3catwoman3 Mar 2019 #128

But the rest of us heathens will be there, too!! yay! lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #176

Does anyone (besides me) know where the ashes come from? theboss Mar 2019 #136

They come from the palms from Palm Sunday, which were burned. kskiska Mar 2019 #153

I do! Inkfreak Mar 2019 #204

Did people regularly appearing on TV always keep their ashes? Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #148

There were very few people regularly on tv theboss Mar 2019 #150

Ash Wednesday to commemmorate the palm fronds akraven Mar 2019 #169

Well damn. All along I thought it was to mark them as present for school. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #195

I like the idea of Ash Wednesday and Lent. blogslut Mar 2019 #197

The rituals of Catholicism are very beautiful and powerful theboss Mar 2019 #212

Some Catholics want you to see it. I always washed it off. IronLionZion Mar 2019 #211