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In reply to the discussion: Love it when AOC pushes Wingnuts' buttons; not so much mine about FDR [View all]radius777
(3,814 posts)126. New Deal coalition was held in place by Jim Crow
The old-left Dem party tolerated racism (and sexism etc) in order to hold onto the Solid South (as well as many working class whites even in the North) who had hostile views towards blacks and others (eg. Catholics) they viewed as beneath the WASP white man.
FDR is one of the greatest presidents in American history, but he was still a politician, and as such not free from playing to the voters he knew he had to get to win elections.
It was really only until Hubert Humphrey called this out at the 1948 Democratic National Convention that the Dem party slowly but steadily started moving in a civil rights direction:
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/huberthumphey1948dnc.html
"My friends, to those who say that we are rushing this issue of civil rights, I say to them we are 172 years late. To those who say that this civil-rights program is an infringement on states rights, I say this: The time has arrived in America for the Democratic Party to get out of the shadow of states' rights and to walk forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights. People -- human beings -- this is the issue of the 20th century. People of all kinds -- all sorts of people -- and these people are looking to America for leadership, and theyre looking to America for precept and example."
"My friends, to those who say that we are rushing this issue of civil rights, I say to them we are 172 years late. To those who say that this civil-rights program is an infringement on states rights, I say this: The time has arrived in America for the Democratic Party to get out of the shadow of states' rights and to walk forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights. People -- human beings -- this is the issue of the 20th century. People of all kinds -- all sorts of people -- and these people are looking to America for leadership, and theyre looking to America for precept and example."
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You don't have time to explain what you're talking about, yet you want us to read a book...
George II
Mar 2019
#43
He allowed local officials and banks to redline, the Feds could have prevented that.
Blue_true
Mar 2019
#64
I have relatives that would have disagreed he couldn't have handled the war any better.
Tiggeroshii
Mar 2019
#131
Wagner Act of 1935 allowed unions to discriminate on the basis of race, for one
Spider Jerusalem
Mar 2019
#78
The New Deal did not benefit all Americans, though, is the point (n/t)
Spider Jerusalem
Mar 2019
#83
"FDR/Eleanor, were tireless, absolutely relentless in pushing for equal rights"
Dr Hobbitstein
Mar 2019
#110
What I like is calling out things as racist which are racist and not having
Dr Hobbitstein
Mar 2019
#180
The racist policies of the New Deal were racist then, and are racist now.
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2019
#17
The Racial Inequities in the New Deal were not totally the Fault of the President
whathehell
Mar 2019
#39
Some people criticize LBJ for not doing this or that. LBJ may have done all that was possible,
empedocles
Mar 2019
#10
In sports, commentators who are not necessarily the best or brightest, often at least note,
empedocles
Mar 2019
#7
Oh my lord why are people so mad about these new congresspeople speaking the truth?
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2019
#14
I usually try to answer questions that appear to be sincerely asked, so here goes:
UTUSN
Mar 2019
#21
Growing up in South, I was always confused by the racists' love/reverence for FDR. George Wallace,
Hoyt
Mar 2019
#32
I revere FDR, just as I do Lincoln. Neither did EVERYTHING right. ON balance, they were exceptional
hlthe2b
Mar 2019
#34
If New Deal programs were more inclusive for minorities, Southern Democrats would never have allowed
tritsofme
Mar 2019
#37
Meaningless blather. FDR lived in the world as it was, not as we'd like it to have been.
tritsofme
Mar 2019
#107
FDR massively shifted the Overton Window to the left and made subsequent progress possible.
tritsofme
Mar 2019
#112
Without the New Deal, LBJ would have been unable to usher in his Great Society programs
tritsofme
Mar 2019
#122
I think she is actually making a compelling point (even if the execution might leave something to be
deurbano
Mar 2019
#59