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H2O Man

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Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:55 AM Mar 2019

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“We're a miserably violent species. But we're also a profoundly empathic, compassionate species. How do we make sense of this.....how do we understand the biology of it?”
Robert M. Sapolsky

https://danablog.org/2018/04/23/sapolsky-on-the-biology-of-good-and-evil/


Robert Sapolsky is a professor of biological sciences, neurology, and neurological sciences at Stanford University. About a year ago, the Council on Foreign Affairs published his article “This Is Your Brain on Nationalism.” See:

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2019-02-12/your-brain-nationalism

Recent events have resulted in my reviewing the important information that Robert Sapolsky reported on a year ago. And it's not just New Zealand – although that alone would suffice. I understand why Jimi Hendrix sang,” And up in the clouds I can imagine UFOs jumpin' themselves, Laughin' they sayin' Those people so uptight, they sure know how to make a mess .'” I know why my brother called tonight to say, “You should be happy. It just means we are a failed species, soon to disappear from the evolutionary tree of life.”

It's fascinating to see how human beings mentally process “others,” even though those are other human beings. I do not relate to that type of thinking. The vast majority of the human beings that support Trump - and the gunman in New Zealand – process this information in a primitive manner in their brains, a vestige of a response that may have played a significant role in human evolution long, long ago. As Carl Sagan pointed out in “Dragons of Eden,” our relatives seemed to die out (****except in the National Geographic DNA tests, which would surely surprise the white nationalists should it ever enter on their level of understanding).

The information Sapolsky presents should place Trump's recent comment about how “tough guys” love him, and might become “very bad” if there is an effort to remove him from the White House. I know that some are questioning if he was aware of what he was actually saying, or just rambling on in confusion. I think he knew exactly what he was saying. I think he has been waiting for a time to fit that message in.

I don't think I'm alone in having questioned if republicans are “fully human.” Sapolsky's studies say that yes, they are anatomically human, and behave in a manner that has been common in our species. Yet they are not “fully human,” in the potential described by enlightened people throughout history.. Their brains are functioning at a fight-or-flight level, minus the flight. When confronted with the image of someone outside of their herd, they become uncomfortable. Edgy. Anxious. Afraid. None of this allows much space for rational thinking.

These are robots, in a very real sense, that aren't programmed to have empathy when they see an “other.” They are entirely comfortable with having homeless brown-skinned people from Central America being confronted by the military when they try to enter the United States. They are good with putting little children in metal cages.

Trump is openly calling on those among these herds to be prepared to use violence to protect him if he is legally evicted from the White House. This call for sedition is aimed at a specific audience. He's not speaking to black people. Or brown-skinned Americans. Not Asian-Americans, or Native Americans. No, he's talking to white nationalists. The type that live in a van and send pipe bombs to Democratic leaders. The type that murder “others” in their house of worship. The type that makes posters of Rep. Omar with the Twin Towers, and make the unprecedented number of death threats against her.

In his 1973 book, “The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness,” Erich Fromm noted the danger of when a malignant narcissist – his term of sociopathy – leads those who views “others” in the manner described by Sapolsky. That's where we are today. And while white nationalism isn't the only problem we face at this time, it sure as hell ranks at the top for immediate threats.

The good news is that Sapolsky and Fromm's works show that many of us have brains that function on a higher level. That the human potential isn't limited to fear, hatred, and violence. These are, in fact, the very things that we should consciously avoid. Our priority is to civilize this country, in which incivility is all too common. That doesn't mean that we are okay with the actions of the Trump supporters. Or that we accept that type of ill-mannered behaviors.

At this time, the Democratic Party – though imperfect – offers the best options for civilizing our society. We need to do that, before we point fingers at other lands. It's a difficult, long term process, although it presents far less pain and suffering than any alternative. And it is an option that presents itself to us each and every day.

Peace,
H2O Man

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I JUst Read About A Dog Me. Mar 2019 #1
Why do we have bull fighting, watoos Mar 2019 #4
Thanks, Me. H2O Man Mar 2019 #5
Interesting Post Script Me. Mar 2019 #9
Good! H2O Man Mar 2019 #13
In addition there have been studies done on the brains watoos Mar 2019 #2
Right. H2O Man Mar 2019 #6
I just got it. "Conservatives" are conserving vestigial, maladaptive genes. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #10
Right! H2O Man Mar 2019 #12
H. sapiens sapiens had to watch out for H. Neanderthalensis lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #14
I think it's the other way around. hunter Mar 2019 #20
It probably went both ways. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #22
Interesting discussion. H2O Man Mar 2019 #25
K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #3
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2019 #7
Excellent post H2O Man. Insightful. alwaysinasnit Mar 2019 #8
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2019 #11
Good post burrowowl Mar 2019 #15
The one I H2O Man Mar 2019 #16
i like the sex on the wrong brain theory (sowb) - it's not human nature and it's certainot Mar 2019 #17
certainot, do you think that this might be a reason that conservatives harumph Mar 2019 #23
i agree. at some level there might be an effort to keep secret this certainot Mar 2019 #24
Valid point. H2O Man Mar 2019 #26
brain bleach!... and trump has a classic bad case of sex on the wrong brain - the certitude and certainot Mar 2019 #31
all human behavior is contingent on our social environment and our genetic endowment. b.f. skinner Kurt V. Mar 2019 #18
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2019 #27
Great post WaterMan malaise Mar 2019 #19
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2019 #28
We used to feed the birds but the ferals malaise Mar 2019 #30
I'm always glad when I see one of your posts. Thanks as always. nt Hekate Mar 2019 #21
Thanks, Hekate! H2O Man Mar 2019 #29
I had the inestimable good fortune to earn my PhD from Robert Sapolsky. majdrfrtim Mar 2019 #32
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2019 #34
K & R Duppers Mar 2019 #33
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2019 #35
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