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RHMerriman

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Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:15 PM Mar 2019

BOTTOM LINE: This is a DISASTER for Donald J. Trump [View all]

BOTTOM LINE: This is a disaster for Donald J. Trump

Get your attention?

Consider this -

[link:https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/32419/|]

and have some guts, for god's sake.

Mueller, at least according to Barr, wrote that he CAN NOT "exonerate" Trump... so (as Matt Miller says) "congratulations to Individual 1 for only being the subject of one ongoing criminal investigation." that we know of... and now the whole scandal is firmly in the hands of a patriotic Congress, which will follow the leads wherever they go - unlike Barr's DOJ.

Don't forget, Nixon was reelected in '72 and gone in '74, so I don't see this as a win for the Trump Administration.

Mueller punted to Barr, and Barr punted to Congress. Neither one was a profile in courage, obviously; the only patriots in all this are the Democrats in Congress, and given the insight into how Trump does business, they have plenty to go after.

Bottom line, Trump hired a national security adviser, campaign chair, deputy campaign chair, personal attorney/national party finance co-chair, (all CONVICTS) and a dozen other losers who have consistently proven themselves untrustworthy for the positions they were given - and the GOP as an institution and organization have accepted that bottom line, which indicts them as just as badly. NO REPUBLICAN who continues to support Trump can be trusted on national security issues, obviously.

It comes down to the reality that Trump is surrounded by crooks that he hired... "I'm not a crook" didn't work for Nixon; I don't see that as really a winning slogan for Trump.

Using Nixon as the template, it's worth remembering Nixon won re-election in '72, despite multiple scandals and the debacle in SE Asia; and yet he didn't finish a second term.

Keep the faith, keep up the fire, and enough with the defeatism.

Cripes, if some of today's posters had been around in 1775, 1861, or 1941, one can only imagine the impact.

The United States has survived, and thrived, in the face of much tougher enemies than DJT and the GOP; start acting like it.
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maggot has begun crowing MFM008 Mar 2019 #1
What do you think Nixon said throughout all of '73-74? RHMerriman Mar 2019 #3
Was he basically exonerated by a Special Counsel? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #9
Ever hear of John Mitchell? RHMerriman Mar 2019 #12
So ... no, then? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #14
Barr's own words aren't even an exoneration... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #15
You are familiar with the 'standard' when it comes to 'criminal justice', yes? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #22
You're the one who brought it up in the original post RHMerriman Mar 2019 #24
It's a short term win...make no mistake. But Mueller farmed out enough corruption to bring him UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #2
It's not even a short-term win... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #4
Let's see if Barr allows congress to see the full report. CentralMass Mar 2019 #5
Ever hear of the Pentagon Papers? RHMerriman Mar 2019 #6
Thread winner malaise Mar 2019 #18
Thanks ... I'm trying RHMerriman Mar 2019 #20
THIS is important! bluestarone Mar 2019 #7
Yes it is... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #11
Not of his own volition, he won't, because I hen he's on the hook for obstruction, too. Volaris Mar 2019 #21
If they didn't find the tapes Nixon would have survived the investigation. shockey80 Mar 2019 #8
And the difference between 2019 and 1973 in terms of electronic data records is RHMerriman Mar 2019 #10
So is the earnestness of the public and of the senate leadership lostnfound Mar 2019 #13
Assuming facts not in evidence, counselor. RHMerriman Mar 2019 #16
You think they'll be persuaded by facts? The cult believes in trump more than their own eyes. Nt lostnfound Mar 2019 #68
You mentioned the Senate, the House, and "Americans" - which ones are corruption tolerant, and RHMerriman Mar 2019 #70
I did not mention the House for exactly that reason. Nt lostnfound Mar 2019 #81
It also doesn't hurt kurtcagle Mar 2019 #52
Good point... as it stands at the moment, RHMerriman Mar 2019 #54
'start acting like it' Volaris Mar 2019 #17
Damn straight... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #19
I like to play pretend too. Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #23
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #26
I'm plenty grown... Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #28
So what are you going to do about it, Mick? RHMerriman Mar 2019 #29
Yes. That's all I can do. I'm done hoping, tho. Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #33
Perhaps you'd benefit from some more liquid courage, Mick RHMerriman Mar 2019 #37
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #48
Nothing wrong with liquid courage if that's all you've got... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #50
I agree, HOPE is a nice platatude but little else. Kinda like 'thoughts and prayers'; NotHardly Mar 2019 #49
Who the hell said we're "hoping"? RHMerriman Mar 2019 #51
Mick? sheshe2 Mar 2019 #83
Right? MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #84
"Mick"? To an Irishman? Got any more ethnic slurs you can throw out? George II Mar 2019 #85
It ain't over till it is OVER. and...IT AIN'T OVER..nt Stuart G Mar 2019 #25
True enough, Coach Berra. RHMerriman Mar 2019 #27
Why it ain't Over... Stuart G Mar 2019 #30
Indeed ... historical perspective is a beautiful thing RHMerriman Mar 2019 #31
Jaworski just said Nixon is innocent. That's what we're looking at. dem4decades Mar 2019 #32
A, Mueller has not said Trump is "innocent"... he hasn't said anything, honestly; RHMerriman Mar 2019 #34
Mueller folded his hand. I'm supposed to be happy. I went all in on him. dem4decades Mar 2019 #36
Based on what, exactly? Barr's 4-page press release? RHMerriman Mar 2019 #38
You don't think Trump, the master of communications, will exploit this to his advantage? dem4decades Mar 2019 #42
Have you ever been persuaded of anything by Trump? RHMerriman Mar 2019 #43
I don't think so..I think what was said..no federal laws were broken. Stuart G Mar 2019 #35
It is most definitely not "over"... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #40
I'm kicking every positive thread I see! lunatica Mar 2019 #39
Damn right RHMerriman Mar 2019 #41
Me too. Tipperary Mar 2019 #44
True that... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #47
Unrealistic expectations treestar Mar 2019 #63
Hear, hear... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #66
Recommended. Tipperary Mar 2019 #45
Thanks ... as always, the Republicans NEED the Democrats to clean up the mess RHMerriman Mar 2019 #46
I'm 70 years old so I've been around long enough also lunatica Mar 2019 #69
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it RHMerriman Mar 2019 #71
That's good! lunatica Mar 2019 #72
Stole the first part from Georges Santayana, of course RHMerriman Mar 2019 #74
It's the second part I was talking about. lunatica Mar 2019 #77
A janitor found some tape over a door lock at the Watergate hotel cutroot Mar 2019 #53
True, but what is clear is that the Democrats aren't buying it... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #57
OP:"now the whole scandal is firmly in the hands of a patriotic Congress" HUH? The SENATE,patriotic? BamaRefugee Mar 2019 #55
"the only patriots in all this are the Democrats in Congress"... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #58
Good luck with all that. DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #56
Your understanding of " the gravity of what Mueller did" is based on what, exactly? RHMerriman Mar 2019 #59
Reality. nt DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #61
Well that's, like, your opinion, man. RHMerriman Mar 2019 #64
No use overstating the obvious nt DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #82
Had a different zentrum Mar 2019 #60
Different Democratic Party, as well... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #62
Hope you're right, but zentrum Mar 2019 #80
i don't have to have guts. i need my leaders to have guts Kurt V. Mar 2019 #65
Two-way street, Mr. Vonnegut RHMerriman Mar 2019 #67
And he's a criminal a jillion times over thegoose Mar 2019 #73
Indeed he is... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #75
You know it! thegoose Mar 2019 #76
Yes, it's not as much of a disaster as it could have been or as trump is "claiming"... George II Mar 2019 #78
Not a disaster, but gloating about plausible deniability in being unknowingly used by Russia Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #79
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