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In reply to the discussion: Eight myths about Assange [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)160. Your link is not in English. You're arguing about something she supposedly said SEVEN YEARS AGO
and trying to tell me that whatever she might have said means she couldn't be raped by a weirdo who has zero social skills and a problem with taking no for an answer who has previously behaved in stalker-ish fashion (and that is well documented on the web and in this thread--and it's in ENGLISH, too--as the majority of the world doesn't read Swedish, as I'm sure you well know).
I think you're trying WAY too hard. You're starting to appear, well, silly.
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I don't remember any Fox segments called "Marx lives" but I don't watch Fox
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#50
It gave a Swedish view of the weird hallucinations Assange supporters have about Sweden
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#19
I had Swedish meatballs last time I visited IKEA. Nothing to write home about there. Thanks.
freshwest
Aug 2012
#31
I thought Sweden was the place that hosted Wikileaks in the first place, as in this video:
freshwest
Aug 2012
#25
Yes, IIRC Assange went to Sweden in 2010 to talk about staging Wikileaks from there
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#28
I had to look it over to select and post the translated excerpt, didn't I?
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#51
Here's an excerpt - copyright policies prevent me from posting the whole thing.
backscatter712
Aug 2012
#24
I don't see any hallucinaions mentioned. It seems rather bland. TY for the info!
freshwest
Aug 2012
#30
The paternalistic GALL of the Swedish state bringing this case on, against the wishes of the women
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#4
Yeah, and the sheer gall of the police in America who bring assault charges against men who beat
MADem
Aug 2012
#73
Really? So now you are comparing consensual sex to beating up your spouse?
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#86
i'd say if one consents to sex 3 times on the same night, once with the condom placed only
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#140
yes, grounds to assume. she didn't understand she'd been 'victim of a crime' until after
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#150
OMG!! SO TRAUMATIC TO BE WOKEN UP WITH SEX AFTER FUCKING THREE TIMES THE NIGHT BEFORE!!
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#156
All caps isn't helping your argument. No means no. That's quite a simple concept. NT
MADem
Aug 2012
#157
Your link is not in English. You're arguing about something she supposedly said SEVEN YEARS AGO
MADem
Aug 2012
#160
no, it's in swedish, an evaluation of her praktik at the embassy. because she's swedish, you know,
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#161
If you want to make your case, and not just pretend at cleverness, you'd provide a verifiable
MADem
Aug 2012
#162
The Swedish state brought them, after Wikileaks exposed war crimes and diplomatic cables
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#95
The women's own attorney says they still want these allegations to be investigated.
pnwmom
Aug 2012
#110
If the facts are as Ms. W. claimed, he penetrated her while she was sleeping. She couldn't
pnwmom
Aug 2012
#130
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but there is such a political and international
JDPriestly
Aug 2012
#132
It wasn't "the previous night," it was the *same* night. She'd already had sex with him
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#138
She doesn't use that word so you have no right to assign it to her sexual experience
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#98
Sweden's laws determine what is rape according to the precise circumstances; not, apparently,
pnwmom
Aug 2012
#99
Impossible to bring a case to successful resolution when the women don't participate
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#101
Do you believe the state gets to determine if you've had consensual sex or been raped?
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#103
SHE says no rape. So you believe the state gets to decide for her?? Really?
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#105
The lawyer does not say they want justice, it says they want the thing to end
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#115
That woman cannot speak for the other one. But she is certainly right that Assange,
pnwmom
Aug 2012
#119
From your link: "The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#135
except that the night before she'd allowed sex with a condom placed only on the head, not the
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#143
you guys all have the same talking points. she didn't refuse consent. read her testimony.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#139
The women's lawyer says they're "frustrated and disappointed" by Assange seeking asylum.
pnwmom
Aug 2012
#107
The lawyer does not say they want justice, it says they want the thing to end
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#116
The lawyer says a lot of things. He's under investigation himself, and it's not clear that he is
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#137
... Aftonbladet is owned by the Swedish Trade Union Confederation ... and its editorial page
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#34
It's Swedish opinion on Assange. We've all heard Assange's supporters explain that
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#60
Tsk tsk, it's against DU rules to accuse a fellow poster of astroturfing...
backscatter712
Aug 2012
#13
Wow. You just keep pushing this site no matter how often it is exposed. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#23
... Aftonbladet is owned by the Swedish Trade Union Confederation ... and its editorial page
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#35
None of which is relevant, nor lends any credence to your transparent and clumsy agenda. Next!
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#38
It has also been described as a tabloid 'with a Right Wing ideological agenda'
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#39
I don't remember any Fox segments called "Marx lives" but I don't watch Fox
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#52
The extreme left and the extreme right are often hard to tell apart sometimes.
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#53
The extreme left & right of the political spectrum is like the Pacman tunnel.
backscatter712
Aug 2012
#54
Really? No shit! Hey...I got one...did you know that the moon is made of cream cheese?
Zorra
Aug 2012
#32
Why it's against the rules to insinuate that a DUer is astroturfing or conducting psy-ops.
backscatter712
Aug 2012
#40
For those unable to use Google translate, another Sweden opinion, already translated
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2012
#62
It's your theory, perhaps, that Sweden should drop an extradition request whenever the subject
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#71
The UK courts have dealt with that issue and have concluded: that the Swedish process is not
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#81
This is the lawyer that represented a guy with mental who was confessing to 8 murders for
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#141
I'm not the one with my hands around a bucketload of stinking tripe--you are! nt
MADem
Aug 2012
#153
Katrin Axelsson was outraged back in December 2010 when Assange was denied bail:
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#147
The Assange affair is not just about WikiLeaks, stupid (The Irish Times | Friday, August 24, 2012)
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#148
You won't sway many converts by calling the readers stupid, Ms. McKay. Same to you, S4P
leveymg
Aug 2012
#151