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Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 04:06 PM Apr 2019

How to get Mueller Report (and underlying evidence) and tax returns -IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS [View all]

While the clock is ticking, we are currently and will continue to deal with delay and stall tactics by Barr and are likely to head to court.

Except, If the House authorizes its Judiciary Committee to conduct a formal impeachment inquiry, thus a judicial proceeding, then it can get the Mueller Report, its underlying evidence, and his tax returns.

"One of the exceptions to grand jury secrecy is disclosure “preliminary to or in connection with a judicial proceeding.” To authorize disclosure of the Watergate grand jury information, the special prosecutor’s office argued that the House had authorized its Judiciary Committee to conduct a formal impeachment inquiry and that such an inquiry could be fairly analogized to a “grand jury” investigation and thus a judicial proceeding. Both the district court and the court of appeals agreed, and the Judiciary Committee obtained both the report and the underlying evidence."

(co-authored by Lawrence Tribe, constitutional lawyer at Harvard law)

The full Mueller report could be released — if the House opens preliminary impeachment hearings

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-full-mueller-report-could-be-released--if-the-house-opens-impeachment-hearings/2019/04/08/e47fff42-5a14-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html?utm_term=.4c9c080819c2

I can't express my views on the matter more eloquently than our member DontBooVote:
"Impeachment is not a waste of time. It is an opportunity to lay the evidence on the table for all to see. If that evidence shows a conspiracy with russia and/or a case for obstruction of justice, then let every Senator log his/her vote and let the chips fall where they may.

Impeachment is IMPERATIVE for the sake of history and the historical record!

If he is found, by a preponderance of the evidence, to be guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, and some Senators refuse to impeach, then so be it! We're no further at a loss than we are right now. Because it will be obvious to all, should the evidence show guilt, that the repug senators are to blame for a failure to impeach, not Democrats'.

And if the evidence shows innocence (yea, right! ), then the damage from Democrats from an acquittal will be mitigated by Democratic Senators voting with repugs to acquit leaving Democrats able to righteously claim that, in the end, they were fair to tRump and voted to acquit. "
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12002637


Below, is an excellent article below which is an in-depth analysis of why the House must begin impeachment proceedings:

Impeach Donald Trump
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/impeachment-trump/580468/

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just to be clear, all we need to do is hold impeachment hearings. unblock Apr 2019 #1
Well if this is true bluestarone Apr 2019 #3
Yeah, what the fuck are we waiting for? FirstLight Apr 2019 #7
If this one article has the answers, what are you guys Hortensis Apr 2019 #17
Exactly humbled_opinion Apr 2019 #24
I wonder if they're waiting srobertss Apr 2019 #20
I hope that's the 2naSalit Apr 2019 #6
Fuck their recess FirstLight Apr 2019 #9
I agree that 2naSalit Apr 2019 #11
We have a pResident humbled_opinion Apr 2019 #25
ITTMF!! malaise Apr 2019 #2
DO IT BSdetect Apr 2019 #4
True. Not only that, but at the end of a House impeachment investigation, a vote is taken whether to Nevermypresident Apr 2019 #5
I'm guessing they are waiting one more year to do this.... cbdo2007 Apr 2019 #8
I think that 2naSalit Apr 2019 #12
Start the proceedings now. The evidence will continue to be collected throughout. erronis Apr 2019 #18
impeach barr. mopinko Apr 2019 #10
Yeah, that's not such a bad idea...nt 2naSalit Apr 2019 #13
YES at least start a process that produces something! bluestarone Apr 2019 #14
How did they nail A.G. Mitchell during Watergate? BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #22
The Resistance created the Blue Wave Ponietz Apr 2019 #15
and I wish the Democrats would just do it already. All this "threatening" to do things . . . . pdsimdars Apr 2019 #16
Start the process. Enough. He wants to be a dictator. Enough. Evolve Dammit Apr 2019 #19
I heard or read this within the past few days BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #21
Finally an OP humbled_opinion Apr 2019 #23
IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!! IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!! IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!! IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!! panfluteman Apr 2019 #26
K&R. Impeachment proceedings would be carried into American homes that otherwise are apolitical. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #27
Go for it. Go hard, go bold, take no prisoners. SCORCHED EARTH. slumcamper Apr 2019 #28
This deserves its own OP Ponietz Apr 2019 #29
Yes... we absolutely we must proceed with impeachment. honest.abe Apr 2019 #30
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