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In reply to the discussion: I trust Pelosi but I'm ready for impeachment to start. [View all]Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)The tide didn't turn against Nixon until just a few weeks before he resigned, after two years of hearings and investigations. You assume that, even after relentless investigations, the GOP Senate will not vote to remove Trump. Those facts are not in evidence, it's only your pessimistic opinion.
Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, et al should ramp up the hearings and investigations, not wait for Trump and Barr and Mnuchin's obstructions to work their way through the court system. I think starting with impeachment proceeding for Mnuchin would be a good start, force the GOP to take a stand for/against the rule of law, then move onto Barr, then Trump.
When Pearl Harbor was attacked, and most of the US Navy sunk, did the troops on the ground shrug and say "well, we don't have the ships, no sense in shooting at these planes that are shooting at us and bombing us, we should only do what we know will work"
Wasn't it MLK who said that evil succeeds when good men stand by and do nothing?
Trump is aggressively consolidating his power and authority; by 2020, it may be too late. The 2020 election is not our only option, and in fact taking the steps I've recommended, while it may fire up the 25-30% of the electorate that are Trumps base, it would also fire up the rest of the voters, especially the young voters, who will likely be a deciding factor in who will be the next president.
I say FUCK "the math", the Constitution can't wait until 2020!