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A HERETIC I AM

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51. The way I understand the genesis......
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 02:24 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Is that it was sort of a case of “familiarity breeds contempt “

Back in the late 70’s when the popularity of CB’s was booming among the general public, the “Breaker Channel - ch 19 - became overwhelmed with traffic, The rise in number of radios in use can be traced to the change in the national speed limit to 55 in 1973. Prior to that, Truck Drivers pretty much had the CB radio to themselves.

The term “Good Buddy” was fairly common parlance back then but with the new and overwhelming number of radio users, the term began to be co-opted by the “4 wheelers” to the point of annoyance.

Side note; The traffic on channel 19 got so heavy that in California, the drivers switched to channels 17 and 15 as their breaker channels in order to get away from the madness 19 had become.

Where and exactly why and by whom the change began is anyone’s guess, but the flash point was the movie “Convoy” as I said before. EVERYBODY in a car thought they were Kris Kristofferson driving a black Mack with a duck hood ornament! “Good Buddy” became so overused that a response from a trucker to a car driver asking for information (where the cops are, etc.) would end up being acrimonious. “Good Buddy? I ain’t your god damned good buddy, pal” etc. etc.

As a way of easily distinguishing between fellow truckers and the general public, the word took on the new meaning I’ve discussed.

Now...some points should be made;

Is it homophobic? Well, yeah, I suppose it is, although I agree with the point made by I think Morgan Freeman who said that it isn’t really a phobia - these people aren’t afraid of homosexuals, they’re just bigoted assholes.

But trucking is a male dominated industry and always has been and as such, has a “macho” image, of this there can be no doubt. Also, you don’t need an advanced degree to drive a truck so this isn’t the most well educated demographic in the country. A certain amount of ignorance and bigotry in this regard must be expected.

So having this large group of individuals, who now feel as if a slice of their space was being overrun by unwanted and unwelcome outsiders, begin to associate an annoying car driver calling them “Good Buddy”, in other words, being unduly familiar, to being gay was a very short step.

It just morphed into this connotation because its usage among truck drivers tailed off dramatically and as such, anyone using that term was immediately identifiable as outside the group.

Does that make sense?

Again, it is now and has been for years, a slur, a pejorative, an insult. Having someone who is not a trucker, say “10-4, good buddy” is taken by truckers as basically saying “Ok, you faggot”. That’s just its meaning these days and that’s not going to change. As I said in one of my other responses, if you don’t believe me, just go to a large truck stop on a night it’s packed to the gills, get on a CB and ask “Are there any Good Buddy’s here tonight?”

You will quickly see I’m not making any of this up.

ONE LAST THING;

It might seem strange to some, and clearly to the person I had the exchange with earlier, why I would get so defensive or worked up over what many obviously see as a harmless phrase.

Here’s why;

Because it comes from a really stupid place, was overused to the point of annoyance and now means something else. The fact that people still use it as if it doesn’t mean what it means, indicates they got their information on the culture of trucking from a horribly badly written movie that ridiculously exaggerated what truckers do and how they conduct themselves, that came out in 1978, and those people seemed to stop learning about the culture right there and then!! It’s fucking stupid and people need to learn it’s stupid, and it means something else now. Like I said, no one reading this would likely call an African American person “Colored” yet that term was very commonly used by white people when they talked about black people about the time the CB boom started.

Words evolve. This term means something else now, and people should stop using it as if it didn’t.

I hope what I have written helps clear up any misunderstanding.

I apologize for the delay in responding, but I am on a trip right now, and my co-driver and I just switched 25 minutes ago.

So...time for bed for me..

When you drive through a lot of southern and western states louis-t Apr 2019 #1
they probably have satellite radio maxsolomon Apr 2019 #2
Do trucks still have CD players? Cars are coming with digital stuff, now. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #3
First, "Good Buddy" is a pejorative. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #6
"Good buddy" is not a pejorative. More importantly...who removed your funny bone? Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #7
So who did you drive OTR for? A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #10
Whoa. You're taking a humorous post (that was correct) far too seriously.... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #11
How dare you. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #15
Placing on ignore. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #18
I'm heartbroken A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #19
Heretic, save it for the Republicans? Hortensis Apr 2019 #34
I have a question. Mariana Apr 2019 #48
The way I understand the genesis...... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #51
It's not funny when you are actually insulting people Lordquinton Apr 2019 #16
He insulted me. Not the other way around. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #17
He was correcting you on being unintentionally offensive Lordquinton Apr 2019 #41
I wonder if she thinks calling an African American "colored" is ok too A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #20
You got schooled by an expert and now you double down? Arazi Apr 2019 #36
Man you said something not knowing that it isn't cool to say... SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #39
Certain Truckers can take their homophobia and shove it up their ass. TeamPooka Apr 2019 #21
I agree 100% A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #23
So many of these Folks are in hock Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #4
What do you wanna bet that Congress & Trump are going to promise to fix it, for the election? Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #5
The only thing that will change Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #9
Exactly. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #12
Many tens of thousands will no longer BE truckers Hortensis Apr 2019 #35
Sounds like there will only be a hand full of Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #37
Umhm. In industry after industry businesses are Hortensis Apr 2019 #40
Most first year Drivers working for a Major, Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #42
Ouch. It's been 20 years since someone we knew for some Hortensis Apr 2019 #43
That is one of the most dangerous Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #44
They will need the House to pass any changes and if we're fixing the tax law for Truckers then TeamPooka Apr 2019 #22
Oh, I don't think they'll really "fix" it. They'll just SAY they will. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #24
Let them try to explain it and promise because it just opens up their tax bill for debate TeamPooka Apr 2019 #25
True. Good points. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #26
They should call Rush dalton99a Apr 2019 #8
I still can't get over that fucking insane picture of Trump at the wheel of a truck. smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #13
I remember that on tv. It was a YUGE photo-op. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #14
They did it to themselves JustAnotherGen Apr 2019 #27
To make matters worse, McConnell implied that it was an intentional hit to Democrats... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #28
I have a Trump-lubber trucker in the family, too. I wonder.... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #30
They can console themselves by listening to Limbaugh MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #31
They voted for a dumbass, so fuck'em donkeypoofed Apr 2019 #33
Time for a good ol' fashioned Neoconvoy Blue Owl Apr 2019 #38
An occupation that hopefully goes the way of the blacksmith as soon as possible RB TexLa Apr 2019 #45
Thanks A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #46
America needs plenty more truckers. nt oasis Apr 2019 #47
So we should stop making advances that will lead to self driving RB TexLa Apr 2019 #49
To Your 2nd Paragraph ProfessorGAC Apr 2019 #54
Possibly something to do with deductions allowed. alphafemale Apr 2019 #50
Most truck drivers are NOT independent contractors A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #52
I am not saying most drivers own...or even lease their rigs. alphafemale Apr 2019 #55
Most truckers are paid by the mile... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2019 #57
Yes. The per diem for expenses was either removed or capped. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #53
Oh well. ellie Apr 2019 #56
They will never admit it. They will take the losses and continue to support their fellow bigot. nt sarabelle Apr 2019 #58
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