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ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
31. I work in transplant
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:01 PM
Jun 2019

I’ve also been sober many years because of AA, and you’ll have to take my word for this—I was bad.

That being said, AA “works” for a lot of people. There are very few other workable, affordable options, as it’s basically a form of free therapy. I have taken care of any number of liver transplant patients who stopped drinking and using on their own, and did not need “community recovery” as it’s called. In our transplant program, If your liver disease is due to alcohol or drug abuse, it’s a requirement that you attend community recovery programs and prove that you did so.

I hate the AA works/AA doesn’t work/AA is a cult-religion/no it isn’t/ back and forth arguments and I usually don’t involve myself, but I do want to say this. I don’t give a shit HOW someone gets sober, on their own, through AA, through therapy, through religion, through sheer will power. I just care that they do.

There are drugs for addiction coming down the pike, other therapies, but the abstinence based approach, so that one’s addiction isn’t “triggered” seems to be the best way thus far.

As I type this, I’m working, I’m a dialysis nurse today. My patients are very ill, and I value the ones who put themselves into that illness through their own behavior no less than others. Addiction is ugly. It ruins lives, it costs billions, there is no current cure.

Liver failure is one of the ugliest ways to die there is.

Thanks malaise Jun 2019 #1
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DD pulled a fast one on us, Rhiannon. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #7
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You would think so buy then again..... tymorial Jun 2019 #13
Yes, and he must have played most of his life.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #24
I was not aware of this Bob Smith Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #38
Thanks, Rhiannon and congrats on your recent celebrations. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #40
I first got that particular coin for my sponsor - I always tried to get her a special one Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #41
LOL, I Love As Bill Sees It. Pages are falling out! KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #43
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A visit to Dr. Bob's house is a special treat and a pilgrimage for those of us.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #3
I have never been to dr Bob's house but I have attended retreats in east dorset tymorial Jun 2019 #12
If you get the chance, go there on an off day in the off season. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #16
I remember seeing a movie on TV about murielm99 Jun 2019 #5
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That house is gorgeous! Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #17
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Trusted Servant HopeAgain Jun 2019 #22
Thank you, for posting. wendyb-NC Jun 2019 #21
Happy Founders Day! nt HopeAgain Jun 2019 #23
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There is very little actual evidence that AA works. Farmer-Rick Jun 2019 #26
Exactly. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #27
I've found that it all depends on the meeting - and my attitude. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #39
The article cites research that does not include many other studies cally Jun 2019 #28
Say what you may - I owe my life to AA. I was dying when demosincebirth Jun 2019 #29
I am very glad that that worked for you. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #30
It definitely works for some people. But not many. I'm glad it worked for you, truly. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #32
It works if you get honest with yourself. demosincebirth Jun 2019 #33
That is a very convenient way of looking at things. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #35
Not convenient - to some, it's a matter of life or death demosincebirth Jun 2019 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #42
I work in transplant ismnotwasm Jun 2019 #31
Well said! demosincebirth Jun 2019 #34
K and r. I miss you, Dad. KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #36
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