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In reply to the discussion: AOC's Chief-of-Staff says the Green New Deal was about restructuring the economy - not combating AGW [View all]mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)70. Quite frankly I think it's too late, we're f***ed, because you're right
Nobody wants that.
But we're not going to save the planet w/BS half-measures. We can't go on living like we're living w/o burning up the planet ... our lifestyle is too resource and energy-intensive.
Billions would not have to starve, but we'd need way more local-sourcing, and the model of grocery stores and restaurants, with their staggering amounts of waste, would need phased out. Food would need to be rationed, and delivered for maximum efficiency.
People don't want to accept the true scope of what needs to happen at this late stage. There can no more business as usual.
Tough sell? Yes. Too tough, you're right.
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AOC's Chief-of-Staff says the Green New Deal was about restructuring the economy - not combating AGW [View all]
riverine
Jul 2019
OP
You are mistaken ... & the current economic paradigm has 0% chance of averting climate catastrophe
mr_lebowski
Jul 2019
#24
If the economy is 100% reliant on perpetual GROWTH, that requires both more and more energy
mr_lebowski
Jul 2019
#64
oh, so you would force a Great Depression-like economic coma on the world so that
riverine
Jul 2019
#65
There's not much to read, it's just an outline with zero details on how to do it or....
George II
Jul 2019
#49
I'd say Chakrabarti shot himself in the foot, but it's more like turning an AR-15 on everyone hoping
highplainsdem
Jul 2019
#4
No shit. All you have to do is read it and the read the platform of the Democratic Socialist!
GulfCoast66
Jul 2019
#5
Yes, they exploited the naivete of AOC followers to pose as a climate change fighter
riverine
Jul 2019
#8
Wow, that's some sham considering that she's been pretty open about being...
Humanist_Activist
Jul 2019
#45
Of course! The RW mouth-breathers have always claimed that AGW is a "Marxist plot" all the while
riverine
Jul 2019
#12
That's the plan that proscribes upgrading every bldg in America for renewable energy or something.
Honeycombe8
Jul 2019
#13
Yep - "Replacing or upgrading every U.S. building to achieve maximal energy efficiency,
dalton99a
Jul 2019
#17
Or perhaps a plan it's proponents never took as a serious climate change plan?
GulfCoast66
Jul 2019
#18
I'm afraid some damage has been done just by the mere existence of the GND.
Honeycombe8
Jul 2019
#21
You are making it sound like it would be done overnight, when its not....
Humanist_Activist
Jul 2019
#71
I guess Nancy Pelosi calling it "the green dream or whatever" wasn't so terrible after all.
betsuni
Jul 2019
#25
It is just a dream - no meat on those bones, no details on how to accomplish it....
George II
Jul 2019
#50
Do Chiefs of Staff to Congress folks usually RUN THEIR MOUTH? Serious question. nt
UniteFightBack
Jul 2019
#57