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BumRushDaShow

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14. There is one glaring stark difference however
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:50 PM
Oct 2019

Nixon had been in elected office before becoming President (had served in both the House and Senate and was Eisenhower's VP for 8 years). So he was well aware of how government worked unlike what is in office at the moment. He also had a VP who was on the cusp of impeachment himself (although that effort was thwarted by Democrats who instead wanted to go for the jugular, which essentially lead Agnew to do a plea deal and resign).

So with that in mind, Nixon's actions were taken from the perspective of how to "work" the system vs the flailing around that we see today from someone trying to "break the system".

In any case, it eventually lead to what historically could be considered Nixon doing an "honorable" thing and resigning vs the nightmare that we are going through now with someone who has too much faux guile, bravado, and ego to do so, because he has developed a disdain for our system of government. Additionally, 45 years ago the House and Senate were controlled by Democrats where today, Democrats only control the House. So the risks and rewards are somewhat different as well.

The scary part though, is that should we manage to successfully recover from this, then it's guaranteed that someone will try again and take us to the brink (and beyond) at some point in the future. The weaknesses in this system have been laid bare and the concept of the "honor system" has been badly damaged.

Trump v Nixon [View all] H2O Man Oct 2019 OP
Interesting comparison. rsdsharp Oct 2019 #1
Valid point. H2O Man Oct 2019 #4
He also had enough respect for the Constitution not to totally tear the country apart when he saw rsdsharp Oct 2019 #15
Very good point. Tipperary Oct 2019 #34
K&R. I did not know that about Nixon... OneGrassRoot Oct 2019 #2
It is a too often H2O Man Oct 2019 #7
Treason shadowmayor Oct 2019 #19
In a sense, H2O Man Oct 2019 #28
Shoot I had no idea LBJ caught Nixon! coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #32
There are obvious similarities, but book_worm Oct 2019 #3
True. H2O Man Oct 2019 #8
Trump is pure stupid destructive evil. dalton99a Oct 2019 #10
Right. H2O Man Oct 2019 #11
Yes NoPasaran Oct 2019 #13
As a retired H2O Man Oct 2019 #17
Thanks for this bro malaise Oct 2019 #5
Yep! H2O Man Oct 2019 #12
Interesting malaise Oct 2019 #18
It is interesting isn't it? MuseRider Oct 2019 #6
I just got H2O Man Oct 2019 #20
"Pathetic failed human beings" Martin Eden Oct 2019 #9
Seriously, right? H2O Man Oct 2019 #21
I'm not surprised that sociopaths like Trump exist ... Martin Eden Oct 2019 #29
There is one glaring stark difference however BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #14
Great point! H2O Man Oct 2019 #22
What the cellist said... Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #16
Thank you so much for this! H2O Man Oct 2019 #23
Awesome! n/t MFGsunny Oct 2019 #30
tRump never had bone spurs MiniMe Oct 2019 #24
Yes, of course. H2O Man Oct 2019 #25
I wonder what Kissinger's excuse was. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #26
Henry's excuse .... H2O Man Oct 2019 #27
One key difference that might make all the difference in the future lunatica Oct 2019 #31
I like to think that Nixon would never have conspired with Russia coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #33
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