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BREAKING: Trump Loses Court Fight to Keep Tax Records Secret From NY (!UPDATED!) [View all]

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UPDATED!!!!!
A federal judge rejects Trump's "limitless assertion of presidential immunity from judicial process" and says the Manhattan D.A. can subpoena Trump's tax returns.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/1878-07nytrump-ruling/3febb8a88a32dc2e6521/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

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COURT DECISION HERE:
http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2019/10/07/Mazars.pdf

Breaking:
President Trump must turn over 8 years of his personal and corporate tax returns to Manhattan prosecutors, a federal judge ruled.

President Donald Trump may lose control of his tax filings after years of defying a modern presidential norm of disclosing them to the public, Bloomberg News reports.

A federal judge in New York ruled that Trump can’t stop his accountants, Mazars USA LLP, from turning over his taxes and other financial documents to Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr., whose office is investigating whether the Trump Organization falsified business records related to hush-money payments.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-07/trump-tax-returns-loses-court-fight-to-keep-records-secret

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BREAKING: Trump Loses Court Fight to Keep Tax Records Secret From NY (!UPDATED!) [View all] kpete Oct 2019 OP

YES! Cracklin Charlie Oct 2019 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author redstatebluegirl Oct 2019 #2

YAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! empedocles Oct 2019 #3

K&R... spanone Oct 2019 #4

He still won't do it. edhopper Oct 2019 #5

This is a state issue not federal. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #12

Why is this in the Federal Courts? still_one Oct 2019 #15

Why do plaintiffs take anything to federal court? BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #18

DOJ and SDNY NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #24

LOL BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #26

Apparently they were unaware of Jones v Clinton DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #28

and I'm sure the Republican dominated SCOTUS NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #40

Jones v Clinton DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #87

and that is why I am asking why can't it be apealed all the way to the SC? still_one Oct 2019 #25

Of course they will appeal it as far as they can BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #27

Settled law can always be changed. Especially by this SCOTUS who doesn't believe in precedent... Kablooie Oct 2019 #44

Sure BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #59

Appeals to the Supreme Court aren't automatic, with a few narrow exceptions The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #97

Agreed, but this one I believe they will accept beccause it involves just what a sitting President still_one Oct 2019 #98

Not exactly. It's not a suit that's trying ... Whiskeytide Oct 2019 #101

because trump. everything is a federal case with him, even when it's not. nt Javaman Oct 2019 #31

Wish I understood this better. Can any case you Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #19

I'm in the same boat. Thanks for asking this. Also seems the judge would set a deadline for triron Oct 2019 #43

Any case can be appealed higher edhopper Oct 2019 #51

Thanks. So for trump it is always typically his Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #76

pretty much. edhopper Oct 2019 #88

Love it Mystery sage Oct 2019 #6

There will be extra mad tweeting today! nt woodsprite Oct 2019 #7

Oh, that's going to make for some interesting reading. Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #8

Keep it in the courts. kentuck Oct 2019 #9

I think you can bet on it still_one Oct 2019 #16

One way or another, they won't delay safeinOhio Oct 2019 #62

Oh my. You do know he is going to go full narcissist meltdown. We may be in a war by next week, SummerSnow Oct 2019 #10

Even the wild bunnies in the front yard are dancing! Finally some good news. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #11

Yesssss!! mfcorey1 Oct 2019 #13

GOOD!!! Cough 'em up, donald. calimary Oct 2019 #14

Did Trump not say..."I have NOTHING to hide."? ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2019 #17

Biggest mystery. Say he has been audited for Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #21

The "2nd whistleblower" has info related to the IRS and the audits BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #32

Hope Schiff or some chair can get his testimony forthwith! triron Oct 2019 #45

Trump Speak: Newest Reality Oct 2019 #29

From the New York Times..... Roland99 Oct 2019 #20

"repugnant to the nation's governmental structure and constitutional values." - OUCH! onetexan Oct 2019 #63

I want to see that on a billboard!!!! Lol Takket Oct 2019 #75

They'll appeal the ruling. His lawyers will keep it locked up in the courts for a while. nt Quackers Oct 2019 #22

Yes they will appeal, but the judge refused to put a prelinary injunction in process, so I believe vsrazdem Oct 2019 #30

They will seek an immediate stay of the district court order before the subpoena is enforced onenote Oct 2019 #35

It's pretty cut and dried though jberryhill Oct 2019 #60

Not so sure about that. onenote Oct 2019 #83

They just issued a stay Polybius Oct 2019 #85

Which is unsurprising jberryhill Oct 2019 #90

And they are putting themselves at risk by appealing, because the judge went into great detail vsrazdem Oct 2019 #61

Does anyone seriously expect Trump to release them...? regnaD kciN Oct 2019 #36

Agree, but they are not asking Trump to release them. They are getting them from his accounting vsrazdem Oct 2019 #38

Expect an executive order pronto bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #23

Not going to happen. onenote Oct 2019 #34

Let's bring this bastard down. bdamomma Oct 2019 #33

I will be reading this opinion today Gothmog Oct 2019 #37

The way i read it they have until 1pm today? bluestarone Oct 2019 #39

The GOP does realize that the tide will turn and Democrats will have the 3 branches of government? usaf-vet Oct 2019 #41

It will be a very long time edhopper Oct 2019 #54

Agreed, but to slow the further destruction is the best we can hope for over the short term. usaf-vet Oct 2019 #58

It won't happen. It will go to SCOTUS and they will rule the prez is immune. Kablooie Oct 2019 #42

Or not. orangecrush Oct 2019 #46

The SC shouldn't even take the case. gab13by13 Oct 2019 #50

If Roberts doesn't let his Republican claws show he will do the right thing and push the case back onetexan Oct 2019 #65

Quoting SNL: AINT NUTHIN GONNA HAPPEN Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #53

As long as he is president he won't ever Release them. njhoneybadger Oct 2019 #47

+1 sandensea Oct 2019 #49

Facist Fatso .... LenaBaby61 Oct 2019 #55

They are in the position of his accountants... reACTIONary Oct 2019 #99

As it should be. sandensea Oct 2019 #48

they already got a restraining order.... spanone Oct 2019 #52

2nd Circuit issued a stay Roland99 Oct 2019 #56

Source? Damn judges. WTF! triron Oct 2019 #73

A tweet I'd seen Roland99 Oct 2019 #79

Here Polybius Oct 2019 #86

This is the judge in question jberryhill Oct 2019 #105

Innocent people, with nothing to hide, don't act like Trump. nt WePurrsevere Oct 2019 #57

What happens after they refuse to turn the documents over? Garrett78 Oct 2019 #64

What's happened so far? The P is invincible according to tRump until somke other power KPN Oct 2019 #70

Happy dance Soph0571 Oct 2019 #66

He will just find another friendly judge to reverse it. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #67

That's not the way it works. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #82

It's all falling apart for him now. Joe941 Oct 2019 #68

But wait there's more. This means by 4 PM EST, NY will have some of the financial info ffr Oct 2019 #69

Trump lawyers submitted an emergency halt to the order. damn. But as Trump always riversedge Oct 2019 #71

FFS, it's been "stay"ed AGAIN! ffr Oct 2019 #72

Fuck the judge that did this. What is wrong with these fuckers? triron Oct 2019 #74

It's strictly procedural, nothing wrong with the judges. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #81

So why not refuse to grant a stay? Judge should know better. He has his head buried in the sand? triron Oct 2019 #89

Aside from your sexist assumption... jberryhill Oct 2019 #91

"The knee-jerk attacks against the courts" are the result of people The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #93

This is the judge who issued the temporary stay jberryhill Oct 2019 #106

Yes, but he granted a stay pending appeal! He *must* be a Trumpist stooge! The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #108

How am I not advocating rule of law?? A stay only 'may be granted'; not required to be. triron Oct 2019 #94

You were not labelled sexist jberryhill Oct 2019 #95

The court is majority liberal that issued that stay Polybius Oct 2019 #103

Because *all* parties have the right to appeal an unfavorable ruling. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #92

The SCOTUS Justice for the 2nd District Appeals Court is Ruth Bader Ginsberg. 13 judges sit on ancianita Oct 2019 #77

The judge's order has been STAYED by the Appeals Court elleng Oct 2019 #78

The judge's memorandum discusses at length why the OLC memos The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #80

thanks! Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #102

my favorite paragraph ... Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #104

Why is he fighting this considering this has been done by prior presidents? Obviously ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #84

Doubt it'll be overturned on appeal lettucebe Oct 2019 #96

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Cha Oct 2019 #100

Like Bo Dietl said to Henry Hill, Mc Mike Oct 2019 #107