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Proud Liberal Dem

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Reply to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:57 PM

Nov 2019

It just occurred to me too that if they start with the "whataboutism", they've already conceded the argument and admitting that Trump is in the wrong. The "whataboutism" is really about justifying their ongoing support of Trump IN SPITE OF his behavior by making it seem that since Obama did "it" or Hillary did "it", it's ok for Trump to do it- essentially normalizing whatever they're trying to justify. And oftentimes, they're trying to compare apples to oranges.

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My technique when debating a trumper [View all] Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2019 OP

It's not the economy. It's the racism and hatred and anger which they support. LonePirate Nov 2019 #1

Bingo!! k&r SummerSnow Nov 2019 #6

Yes! 👍 Duppers Nov 2019 #14

+3 hibbing Nov 2019 #17

The "economy" is now a code word for racism bitterross Nov 2019 #21

Many need cult deprogramming The Wizard Nov 2019 #2

Forget CBT, go with Skinnerian Radical Behaviorism. safeinOhio Nov 2019 #3

The problem with operant conditioning Redleg Nov 2019 #20

Very good. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #4

It's the Obama economy gulliver Nov 2019 #5

Pace & Lead RichardRay Nov 2019 #7

Yes... Newest Reality Nov 2019 #23

More, please? intrepidity Nov 2019 #29

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True story!! evilhime Nov 2019 #8

So he disagrees with facts? Duppers Nov 2019 #15

I've gotten that response before samplegirl Nov 2019 #32

More than anything... bmpbmp Nov 2019 #9

It's a very useful technique. You may not change that person's mind right then Farmer-Rick Nov 2019 #10

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Most I encounter are superficial and arrogant. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #40

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Folks programmed by Fox, talk radio and targeted Facebook ads need deprogramming andym Nov 2019 #13

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SO so so true! Everyone keeps looking around like they don't understand how we got here. Scotch-Irish Nov 2019 #22

All I will say is that rump is going to screw up (besides the numerous times already), and he's... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #18

Are you trained in the profession or just giving out free advice? Arthur_Frain Nov 2019 #19

Trained Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2019 #27

Don't think the OP implies that you can fix a trumper Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #34

Here's what works for me. KentuckyWoman Nov 2019 #24

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I suspect there isn't much difference between addicts and cult followers, Cary Nov 2019 #26

This. nt Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2019 #28

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You're... you're the bravest man in the world. NCLefty Nov 2019 #31

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My friend uses rationalization, minimization, Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2019 #46

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Most humans will grasp at anything they perceive to alleviate fear, even when.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #37

This. nt Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2019 #44

Thanks for sharing Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #41

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