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mjvpi

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82. I would urge you to walk in their shoes

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 03:37 PM

Jan 2020

And be cognizant of the history between Iran and the US. We invaded the country right next to them and have a huge military presence to this day. How is what he did that much different than how the US behaves? I have a few Iranian and Persian friends. They are wonderful, smart, warm human beings. Our right wing Christian hawks are an exact parallel to their right wing crazies.

All blood is red and all tears are salty.

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If you want to have a good idea of how the Iranians will react [View all] lunatica Jan 2020 OP

Those aren't Qasem Soleimani. braddy Jan 2020 #1

Yes, he was bigger, a national political hero/leader also. Hortensis Jan 2020 #30

He was a terrorist who worked the entire ME murdering Americans, Brits, Arabs, etc., he also seems braddy Jan 2020 #37

I would urge you to walk in their shoes mjvpi Jan 2020 #82

Wow. braddy Jan 2020 #85

We killed a minimum of 200,000 Iraqi civilians mjvpi Jan 2020 #87

All too true. No one argues that this wasn't a murderer. Hortensis Jan 2020 #101

We also helped the British overthrow the democratically elected... brush Jan 2020 #133

Just saying The Bopper Jan 2020 #88

This was not, IMO, and illegal assassination, dware Jan 2020 #91

May I suggest roscoeroscoe Jan 2020 #138

Sure, dware Jan 2020 #142

Yeah, he was at work killing us and we got him and some other important terrorists, who just braddy Jan 2020 #92

Who here doesn't know that? I live surrounded by conservatives, Hortensis Jan 2020 #98

Yes, I see a lot of mourning over him. braddy Jan 2020 #99

Says who?!?! uponit7771 Jan 2020 #117

That was his job, you should find out who the subject is. braddy Jan 2020 #118

So says the Trump admin? Jus sayin, 15000 lies mean something uponit7771 Jan 2020 #119

So says the world, he was not an unknown, he had been at this for decades. Here is a Reuters article braddy Jan 2020 #121

Iraq war like propaganda, fool me once ... fuck that twice shit. The article nor you are answering uponit7771 Jan 2020 #122

Did you read that Reuters article? How about the Atlantic? Here is one from them. braddy Jan 2020 #123

More Iraq war 2 like propaganda. They didn't want to answer straight questions then and you're not uponit7771 Jan 2020 #125

I understand completely now. braddy Jan 2020 #129

The Green Zone isn't fortified anymore DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2020 #136

what made solemani a "terrorist?" rampartc Jan 2020 #135

Operating, creating and masterminding terrorist operations throughout the Middle East, and elsewhere braddy Jan 2020 #137

Iraq enid602 Jan 2020 #94

Uh huh atreides1 Jan 2020 #52

He is correct, this terrorist's death is great news, better than Bin Laden and even Baghdadi, this braddy Jan 2020 #63

Someone (expert) equated this to assassinating our secy of defense. Soleimani was a member Karadeniz Jan 2020 #89

How ridiculous, he led their terrorist operations internationally and attacks on Americans, and was braddy Jan 2020 #93

He was an enemy combatant in an active combat zone, dware Jan 2020 #95

He was expected to take a leading role ... IphengeniaBlumgarten Jan 2020 #2

Not any more. nt dware Jan 2020 #42

The guy was in Iraq, not Iran, in a war zone, he had it coming for a long time, dont cry over him Baclava Jan 2020 #3

This seems to be overlooked here. dware Jan 2020 #4

Where does it say you should shed a tear for this man? lunatica Jan 2020 #6

Just expressing my thoughts toward this man. dware Jan 2020 #8

There's actually a very good reason why it's policy for most countries lunatica Jan 2020 #15

Yeah...the red flag replacing the blue one on the mosque dome in Qom says it all. roamer65 Jan 2020 #18

That the Iranians are mourning? SQUEE Jan 2020 #105

So what should we have done? dware Jan 2020 #22

Trump should have weighed the consequences of assassinating lunatica Jan 2020 #34

As I said earlier, dware Jan 2020 #36

You make a good point lunatica Jan 2020 #43

You can't understand consequences dflprincess Jan 2020 #128

Those Americans who got killed were also in an active war zone. n/t Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #38

Ok, then we eliminated a major threat to our service personell, dware Jan 2020 #40

But how many other threats will spring up because lunatica Jan 2020 #46

But those threats were already there, dware Jan 2020 #47

I am praying and hoping that cooler heads will prevail, here and in Iran. dware Jan 2020 #50

Thanks for engaging in the conversation! lunatica Jan 2020 #54

And will you still be singing that tune in the event of major unforseen consequences? Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #59

I was quite vocal about my opposition to the invasion of Iraq, dware Jan 2020 #65

IMO Bin Laden was different, because he attacked the American people ON OUR OWN SOIL. Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #71

I can't disagree with you on that, dware Jan 2020 #77

Thank you too. Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #83

I'm a pretty tolerant guy, dware Jan 2020 #84

GWB and cronies are the ONLY ones that are responsible for all those deaths. Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #27

Sorry, but I have a different opinion as to this man being responsible for hundreds dware Jan 2020 #32

No need to apologize. Everyone is entitled to their own set of facts. Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #41

No, they would probably still be alive. dware Jan 2020 #45

You're entitled to your opinion, not your own facts. John Fante Jan 2020 #56

I never said otherwise, dware Jan 2020 #60

I don't think anyone disputes that he got what he deserved lunatica Jan 2020 #66

I sure can't and won't dispute what you are saying. dware Jan 2020 #67

And if his assassination leads to largest conflict since Vietnam, will it have been worth it? John Fante Jan 2020 #72

Not sure it's being overlooked Bradical79 Jan 2020 #96

You obviously didn't read my post. lunatica Jan 2020 #5

I read your post and this guy wasn't killed in his own country... EX500rider Jan 2020 #7

My example still stands lunatica Jan 2020 #10

If they were killed in Afghanistan by the Taliban it would not be "assassinated" EX500rider Jan 2020 #13

Suleimani wasn't killed on a battle field. lunatica Jan 2020 #19

Wrong again, dware Jan 2020 #25

If militia groups he directs are lobbing mortar rounds and rockets at the.. EX500rider Jan 2020 #28

Bid Laden was assassinated too, in his bed, were you against that? I was jumping for joy Baclava Jan 2020 #33

Your tears aren't the subject of this OP. lunatica Jan 2020 #35

But, were you happy that President Obama ordered dware Jan 2020 #39

I was relieved lunatica Jan 2020 #49

I guess I didn't really mean happy, dware Jan 2020 #53

I so agree with you! lunatica Jan 2020 #55

"No because there were going to be terrible repercussions" EX500rider Jan 2020 #75

The Creation of ISIS for one lunatica Jan 2020 #78

The Al Qaeda branch in Iraq has little to nothing to do with Bin Laden hiding out in Pakistan. EX500rider Jan 2020 #102

Thanks for the history lesson lunatica Jan 2020 #103

It actually does... EX500rider Jan 2020 #107

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #58

Killing OBL didn't put us on the brink of war. John Fante Jan 2020 #69

Mourning his death? lunatica Jan 2020 #79

We've been at war with Al Qaeda for 20 years, and Iran since 1979, in one form or another Baclava Jan 2020 #80

We have NOT been at war with Iran. Not 40 years ago, not 20 years ago, not 10 years ago. John Fante Jan 2020 #106

Suleimani operated as a terrorist and was killed as he arrived to lead killing operations against us braddy Jan 2020 #44

I'm sure the Iranians will understand that. lunatica Jan 2020 #51

Who cares what the terrorist enemy that oppresses the Iranian people thinks? braddy Jan 2020 #57

Plenty will care when they carry out terrorist acts lunatica Jan 2020 #61

He was when we killed him, that is why we killed him as he arrived during his embassy operation. braddy Jan 2020 #64

Let's see if you say the same thing when the whole ME region is in full scale war. roamer65 Jan 2020 #9

Comment removed by poster lunatica Jan 2020 #11

I think you replied to the wrong person. nt dware Jan 2020 #12

My reply was to Baclava. roamer65 Jan 2020 #14

My apologies! lunatica Jan 2020 #21

No worries, lunatica. roamer65 Jan 2020 #23

Why are all these Iranian military leaders just walking around Iraq like they own it anyway? Baclava Jan 2020 #20

Why are we walking around Iraq like WE own it? lunatica Jan 2020 #24

The Bush boys broke it, and we've been stuck cleaning up the mess Baclava Jan 2020 #26

We left Iraq when they asked us to then came back to fight ISIS when they asked for help. nt EX500rider Jan 2020 #29

It's not so much Iraq/Iran tirebiter Jan 2020 #139

It was a war zone, and soldiers in warzones get killed. GWB put them there, and is the only one Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #16

+1000000 roamer65 Jan 2020 #17

It's been nearly 17 years since we invaded Iraq, and I still get furious about it. Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #31

Because it the spark that lit the fire we are now seeing. roamer65 Jan 2020 #48

It's not just that. I can still remember the visceral feelings of horror and rage Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #81

I hear ya. roamer65 Jan 2020 #86

It still breaks my heart even after all those years. lunatica Jan 2020 #62

Colin Powell or Wesley Clark are poor examples IMO mwooldri Jan 2020 #68

I was thinking of popular generals being assassinated lunatica Jan 2020 #73

from the comments I've read... stillcool Jan 2020 #70

Yes, yes, everyone not only thinks they know it all. MasonDreams Jan 2020 #110

I don't think much will come of this Buckeyeblue Jan 2020 #74

I hope you're right, with all my heart. lunatica Jan 2020 #76

Iran is in a different mercuryblues Jan 2020 #112

You think their regime can NOT react? Cosmocat Jan 2020 #130

It would be a very existential decision for them to attack the US at this point Buckeyeblue Jan 2020 #140

Thats a different thing Cosmocat Jan 2020 #141

Man, the TROLLS have come out in FORCE to take up for this administration. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #90

or it could be a discussion on a discussion board. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #108

I don't think anyone is torn over the bad man gone lunatica Jan 2020 #109

the assassination will absolutely make it a better for future targets of this person. like being Kurt V. Jan 2020 #111

There are many BAD men in America. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #114

Or maybe we're just discussing this, dware Jan 2020 #113

IKR !?!?! uponit7771 Jan 2020 #120

In Trump's mind, killing Suleimani is greaterer than Obama killing Osama bin Laden. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #97

You're right lunatica Jan 2020 #104

Strange that nobody talks about the US taking out Mussadegh or other foreign gov't officials erronis Jan 2020 #100

Yep. It's no surprise that we're still paying for that little stunt. Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #115

You nailed it. Just throw that word "god" into it and it becomes holy warfare. erronis Jan 2020 #116

If the government of Iran really wants to get to Trump dflprincess Jan 2020 #124

Someone mentioned they should talk about attacking Trump labeled properties world wide ... just uponit7771 Jan 2020 #126

That would be an excellent move! nt dflprincess Jan 2020 #127

They cant not do anything Cosmocat Jan 2020 #132

Simple questions: Aussie105 Jan 2020 #131

Trump must think he's in some CIA spy movie lunatica Jan 2020 #134