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Progressive2020

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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:00 PM Feb 2020

Social Democracy [View all]

I think that many Americans have an aversion to the term "socialism", but not to actual social programs. The older generation has Social Security and Medicare, and they love those programs. It could be argued that those two well-loved programs are socialist programs. It depends on your terminology. I personally would rather refer to them as "progressive" programs.

The term "socialism" has been demonized in American politics for decades and decades. They called FDR a socialist when he implemented Social Security. They called Social Security a "socialist" program to demonize it. They did the same with LBJ and Medicare later on.

These types of programs are no different from Sander's Medicare For All. They are social welfare programs that a majority of people want. They just do not like to call them "socialist", as that term has been demonized. Maybe better to use the term "progressive" for programs that people love and want, like Social Security, like Medicare. And those programs are overwhelmingly liked by the older generation as well as many younger demographics. For example, my Step-father is a Republican, but God forbid that you try to take his Social Security away.

Also, I have seen some people compare Democratic Socialism to Communism. This is a smear campaign against Social Democracy. Social Democracy and Communism are two entirely different things. Republicans continue to equate them, but it is a false equivalency. China and Russia in the 20th Century were not Socialist Countries- they were Communist Dictatorships. They are nothing like Social Democracies. Social Democracies are countries like Denmark and Norway which have democracy and strong private sectors that pay taxes to support a strong social safety net. Universal Health Care, Child Care, Free University, Good Pay, Long Vacations, etc.

This is what Social Democracy proposes. Comparing that to Totalitarian Communist Dictatorships shows a profound misunderstanding of what Socialism/Social Democracy is. Communism has no democracy and no private sector. Social Democracy has both a strong private sector and a democracy with a strong social safety net. Social Democracy and Communism are night and day, no matter how much propaganda says that they are the same. They are nothing alike.

So, Social Democracy and Communism are night and day and are not the same thing. To put forward that false equivalency is to help the Republicans, who like to smear any social program as some form of communism. Universal Health Care and Free University are socialist ideas, not communist ones. Socialist societies are democracies with private sectors and safety nets. Communist societies are totalitarian societies with no democracy, no private sector, and no freedom. Do not confuse the two.

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Social Democracy [View all] Progressive2020 Feb 2020 OP
European-Style Democracy Shermann Feb 2020 #1
There's a major difference between Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists, within Europe. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #4
Yes Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #6
Democratic Socialism is Bernie's little in-joke, it's Socialism, most likely of a Trotskyist nature. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #2
What basis do you have for saying that? mjvpi Feb 2020 #5
Because I am European, live in Europe and have grown up watching the evolution of hard line OnDoutside Feb 2020 #7
Yeah Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #19
In US terms, definitely he is a hard line socialist, as the GOP will paint from wall to wall. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #27
Thank you. mjvpi Feb 2020 #3
Reagan Revolution Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #8
My party in the guise of moving to the middle has helped the right take over. mjvpi Mar 2020 #15
I Agree Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #25
Society Security is NOT the slightest bit socialist and to say so Hortensis Feb 2020 #9
Definitions Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #10
Trump defines Democrats as a wacko unhinged mob. Hortensis Feb 2020 #11
I Disagree Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #13
Insistence on following a leader who lies Hortensis Mar 2020 #14
Definitions Again Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #17
Nonsense. Seriously. Some definitions are truth, some are lies Hortensis Mar 2020 #18
I Disagree Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #20
Trump and the massively corrupt Republicans disagree also. Hortensis Mar 2020 #21
It Is A False Equivalency Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #22
Well, aside from the others who swallow without checking Hortensis Mar 2020 #23
Maybe Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #26
Face it. It's Sanders' fault that he calls himself a democratic socialist instead... brush Feb 2020 #12
They took money out of my paycheck EndlessWire Mar 2020 #16
Social Democracy Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #24
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