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Ms. Toad

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59. You initially said his entire response was "he was going to install hand sanitizers on highway rest
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:06 AM
Mar 2020

stops." That seemed to me like criticizm made without having seen any of the steps taken since Monday. From your response now, it seems like you are at least aware he has done more than that - but you don't think it is enough.

We'll largely have to disagree on that - I've been banging my head against largely liberal brick walls to get people to wake up. Both on DU and in real life. On Monday, 2 hours before the cases were diagnosed in Ohio, I couldn't even get my largely liberal administration to take me seriously when I suggested we proactively encourage our student body to take steps to flatten the curve. My suggestions were ridiculed as excessive. I was so frustrated with the happy talk about how little risk there was that I cut everyone off of my response, but my dean, so I didn't have to deal with more blowback - and I only responded to him to document my concerns. DeWine's response was certainly more appropriate than those of the largely liberal administration I've been working with.

As to the specifics -

"As to the 4 cases, they quarantined them & families immediately (before knowing they were positive), and began contact tracing in an attempt to contain the virus."

That's untrue.


I don't see anything you've said that contradicts what I said. The quarantining of professionals who came in contact with the 3 cases, once they tested positive, is part of that contact tracing to contain the virus.

The Ohio COVID-19 website came under scrutiny as it was only updating twice a week, I don't know if that's changed.

https://odh.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odh/know-our-programs/Novel-Coronavirus/2019-nCoV


It's been being updated at least twice a day since Monday. I don't know about before that.

A COVID-19 call center was established (which is/was a good idea) but the panicked public can't seem to get much information, other than a busy signal. Hopefully, they hire more educated people to help with this call center. This is beneficial.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/ohio-set-up-a-hotline-for-questions-about-coronavirus-it-can-take-time-to-get-answers


Well, when you call for closing all of the schools, declare a state of emergency, implement changes to nursing home visits, etc., all in less than 48 hours there are probably going to be more calls than any system can handle for a while. I don't see any information about uneducated people answering the hotline ("the call center is staffed by 18 public health officials, including at least one nurse and one epidemiologist who can answer medical questions." ) or about inappropriate information being given that might suggest the staff was uneducated. Do you blame Costco for not having enough toilet paper to meet the demands of a panicked public?

Since I wasn't present for his interactions with his staff at MetroHealth, I can't specifically address that. I can say that on Monday, 2 hours before the cases were diagnosed in Ohio, I could not even get my mostly liberal adminstration to even consider posting hand-washing signs. ("We shouldn't have to tell adults to wash their hands," "The flu is a lot more serious," and "we don't want to panic the students." )

As for him calling for restrictions on nursing home visits and banning large gatherings today was due to the WHO finally declaring a pandemic. When we all read of what was going on in Washington nursing homes (for how long now) is when he should've acted appropriately. He did not.


DU is a (generally) supportive place - and there are still some here who believe all of this is an overreaction. I don't disagree that more proactive education about nursing homes, specifically, and flattening the curve (generally).

But I was expecting complete incompetence from him, along with the Republican response, "It's no worse than the flu," and at least as much resistance to taking this seriously as I encountered in my largely liberal circle of friends. I saw a competent and appropriate response, deference to the director of public health, without a hint of minimization of how serious this is. In fact - the response I saw was far more proactive than any I've encountered anywhere outside of DU, and I've only seen it on DU for a bit more than a week. If anything, his quick response once there were confirmed cases in Ohio was a wakep-up call that changed the attitude of many local friends I have been unabe to reach.
Gov Polis (D-CO) has been all over it brokephibroke Mar 2020 #1
Doing his best despite not having nearly enough test kits eleny Mar 2020 #13
I absolutely trust Gov. Polis. Laffy Kat Mar 2020 #22
Totally agree DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #47
Hey, DENVERPOPS! Laffy Kat Mar 2020 #61
Yes, WA StTimofEdenRoc Mar 2020 #2
Gov Inslee is a treasure... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #75
yes..Jays great! I was secretly happy when he dropped out of the race for prez.. samnsara Mar 2020 #79
Agreed. WA is so lucky Evergreen Emerald Mar 2020 #114
I trust Newsom in CA. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #3
Yes, Gov. Newsom xxqqqzme Mar 2020 #54
Yes. Gretchen Whitmer has been very proactive in Michigan even though the first 2 cases were found catbyte Mar 2020 #4
Yes! Popcorn Samurai Mar 2020 #95
Governor Newsom, absolutely! DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #5
Same here. We are lucky to have him. nt. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #48
Florida-Desantis MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #6
I don't trust the Florida numbers either soryang Mar 2020 #14
I ignore Ron DeSantis in disgust that we didn't nominate Gwen Graham Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #24
Not a bit. tavernier Mar 2020 #91
MD Gov Hogan 'confused' by info he's been getting from white house, elleng Mar 2020 #7
Hell to the naw, winger/klukker uponit7771 Mar 2020 #8
Wisconsin Tony Evers, YES! Thank goodness no more Walker. Greybnk48 Mar 2020 #9
Yup. Governor Bullock has a response team already... 2naSalit Mar 2020 #10
DeWine? LOL OhioChick Mar 2020 #11
Then you haven't been paying attention. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #23
I see you're in Ohio OhioChick Mar 2020 #41
You initially said his entire response was "he was going to install hand sanitizers on highway rest Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #59
I've been fully aware of what he's been doing all of this time, I have quite a vested interest in it OhioChick Mar 2020 #70
Makes sense Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #117
I have to agree on this. True Blue American Mar 2020 #58
i am absolutely not happy with him about anything else. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #60
As I was reading this just now Mme. Defarge Mar 2020 #12
I felt from the first message marlakay Mar 2020 #15
Same thing Washington governor Jay Inslee is doing Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #33
Yes, hers appears to be modeled after his response. Mme. Defarge Mar 2020 #108
I have Gov Baker-R MA. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #16
I trust Marty Walsh much more than I trust him Green Line Mar 2020 #115
From the next state to your east: not sure yet. yonder Mar 2020 #17
Not even slightly. herding cats Mar 2020 #18
Well, Trump's federal government absolutely fucked us by purposely importing cases which RockRaven Mar 2020 #19
Yes, I live in WA and Jay Inslee is the governor. A Brand New World Mar 2020 #20
JB in Illinois is on top of it. murielm99 Mar 2020 #21
Well my doc friend has used same face mask for days. PPE shirtages OhNo-Really Mar 2020 #34
Not JB's fault. murielm99 Mar 2020 #39
Agreed greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #38
Fuck no. I live in AZ. Coventina Mar 2020 #25
Ducey - AZ (R) ThoughtCriminal Mar 2020 #26
My Governor is Steve Sisolak , a moderate Democrat. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #27
Yes, Gavin Newson is working 24/7 in a hotspot. RandySF Mar 2020 #28
NY - Cuomo manhattan123 Mar 2020 #29
Yes Dorian Gray Mar 2020 #62
Yes and also down the line NY administrators are also doing a good job. Squinch Mar 2020 #64
Yeah... Dorian Gray Mar 2020 #66
NY Cuomo is a yes. kerouac2 Mar 2020 #30
Echo that! mdelaguna Mar 2020 #90
Ducey (R-AZ) has declared a state of emergency wackadoo wabbit Mar 2020 #31
Governor Brian "I steal elections" KKKemp, R-GA, hasn't done anything. CottonBear Mar 2020 #32
He's worthless. And throw in that Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport Buns_of_Fire Mar 2020 #73
I-75 major north-south corridor +I-85 & I-20 east-west. Border w/ Florida. CottonBear Mar 2020 #84
Agreed. It's so depressing and sad. nt crickets Mar 2020 #116
Yes, Lujan-Grisham of NM is handling it well. burrowowl Mar 2020 #35
Yes. Democratic Governor Gina Raimondo (RI) has been proactive Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #36
She sounds like a great governor marlakay Mar 2020 #51
Yes, IL greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #37
Yes, Inslee where I live and Whitmer where my family is. LisaM Mar 2020 #40
Cuomo is good Meowmee Mar 2020 #42
I know the feeling I have been sick marlakay Mar 2020 #53
Sounds very much like what I have had Meowmee Mar 2020 #119
As far as I can see Cuomo Raftergirl Mar 2020 #118
Tg for him Meowmee Mar 2020 #120
Cuomo in NY mobilizing Historic NY Mar 2020 #43
Absolutely not. (Desantis, FL.) dewsgirl Mar 2020 #44
Me too. Not even a teensy tiny bit. nt Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #112
WA MFM008 Mar 2020 #45
Andy Beshear (D-KY) has been awesome! Lexblues Mar 2020 #46
Yes - Kentucky Gov. Beshear is doing great considering..... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #49
Not a fan of Mr. DeWine here in Ohio..... dawnie51 Mar 2020 #50
Sherrod Brown has also given DeWine kudos Maeve Mar 2020 #107
My governor is your governor, marlakay! calimary Mar 2020 #52
Yes. Cuomo and for NYC, de Blasio. Princess Turandot Mar 2020 #55
Governor Cuomo in NY seems to have accurately sized-up Golden Raisin Mar 2020 #56
Yes. Thank God for him..... Dorian Gray Mar 2020 #63
Newsom Raine Mar 2020 #57
Texas - Abbott.... Not no, but HELL NO! He is nothing more than a Trump puppet. walkingman Mar 2020 #65
Ha! Aquaria Mar 2020 #80
Trust Greg Abbott? FUCK no. Paladin Mar 2020 #106
Yes, Roy Cooper in NC. mnhtnbb Mar 2020 #67
Ralph Northam was with the US Army Medical Corps Recursion Mar 2020 #68
Yes, he's been on top of it, as much as can be expected. phylny Mar 2020 #111
No. Emphatically no. Skidmore Mar 2020 #69
Roy Cooper D-NC ms liberty Mar 2020 #71
Illinois is all over it as our Gov immediately mobilized state services and been working on beachbumbob Mar 2020 #72
I'd love to entrust Greg Abbott with the virus. In fact, the sooner he gets it, the better! n/t DFW Mar 2020 #74
im in Wash State and Jay Inslee has done a great job...we have televised updates.. samnsara Mar 2020 #76
Not no, but hell no. Aquaria Mar 2020 #77
Hell to the no vercetti2021 Mar 2020 #78
No. Florida's governor is trump's lapdog.... FM123 Mar 2020 #81
Yes - here in PA Tom Wolf (D-PA) BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #82
Full confidence in Gov. Wolf and his team. Just saw livetohike Mar 2020 #86
Absolutely yes, I trust Tom Wolf Freddie Mar 2020 #89
As much as I've been impressed by the Wolf Administration PRETZEL Mar 2020 #92
I live a couple blocks from the Philly/Montco line so follow their updates as well BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #97
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #83
NY - Gov Cuomo choie Mar 2020 #85
I hate to admit it Chainfire Mar 2020 #87
Nope. Laurian Mar 2020 #88
Florida, so no mcar Mar 2020 #93
Hell no. She is incompetent as it can get. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #94
I have a Republican state government, and I think they're doing sinkingfeeling Mar 2020 #96
J.B. Pritzker of Illinois has been proactive in his response. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2020 #98
OR here as well. Kate Brown has been way ahead KPN Mar 2020 #99
Yes from PA SallyHemmings Mar 2020 #100
No. Not one bit mercuryblues Mar 2020 #101
Yes. Maine. mainer Mar 2020 #102
DeSantis is a total wingnut jerk, but I think he'll be okay obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #103
Governor Whitmer here gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #104
NO! Kim Reynolds, R Bettie Mar 2020 #105
In Tennessee? Hell NO. spanone Mar 2020 #109
You mean the governor whose wife said her job was to bring Jesus to all Okies? HELL NO Runningdawg Mar 2020 #110
Ron DeSantis?! LOL HAB911 Mar 2020 #113
No. I have DeSantis. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #121
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