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In reply to the discussion: 1 question for those supporting the chicago teachers [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)131. So you don't like teachers? Maybe it's because NCLB is a failure. Bush's NCLB is one of
worst 'educational' programs in the history of Education. Any teacher trying to work within that system has their hands tied when it comes to actually educating their students. You seem very uninformed about this subject.
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I don't know the details of CPS, but often there are admins that could be let go.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2012
#1
That was a huge leap from 'cut some of the salaries of administrations' to 'so you want to see
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#258
Actually, that's part of it, according to a poster teacher here on DU yesterday, and news reports.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#227
its a pretty easy assumption to make when your tax burden is maong the highest in th ecountry
rdking647
Sep 2012
#18
You're making assertions not in evidence. What is the effective tax rate in Chicago?
leveymg
Sep 2012
#204
Only "problems" if one doesn't want solutions. On-screen transactions can be taxed, and as for the
leveymg
Sep 2012
#289
how does chicago tax on screen transaction if the cme moves to another city?
rdking647
Sep 2012
#292
SEC regulatory change: all trades have to be transacted through a specified exchange - CBT - to
leveymg
Sep 2012
#298
Maybe they are paid more highly but teaching in Chicago Public Schools is a tough venue.
snappyturtle
Sep 2012
#8
Do teachers salaries in a jurisdiction change according to the toughness of the school?
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#231
actually its the teachers union itself that proclaims teacher there the 2nd highest paid in the coun
rdking647
Sep 2012
#38
when i pointed out the fact the teachers where among the highest paid in teh country you replied
rdking647
Sep 2012
#49
When NO ONE gives on any of the other substantive issues, you go for the biggest "weapon" you have.
patrice
Sep 2012
#152
That's a pretty poor standard since teachers in the US are very poorly paid compared to other
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#260
You were WRONG about the Chicago sales tax rate being the "highest in the nation"
U4ikLefty
Sep 2012
#274
Good for them. That's why we need Unions. Teachers are the lowest paid of all the professions, so
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#259
I don't consider the Third Way that has infiltrated the party and is in lock step with
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#122
Does he have a history of being anti-union or is this a quirk of Chicago power politics? nt
hack89
Sep 2012
#163
When you're losing pro-union Democrats on an issue, the PR has to be pretty bad.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#234
No one is losing pro-Union Democrats. The Third Wayers however who have infiltrated
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#249
Maybe you should read some of the posts in this thread. Everyone in DU is pro-union, as far
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#278
The only people in this thread I see opposing the strike, are not people I would call pro-union
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#282
The US national average can't be made up just of people with Master's Degrees
gollygee
Sep 2012
#291
I support teachers. My sister is one. But they are not in the low pay category.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#235
Maybe they're paid highly because the cost of living in Chicago is considerably higher
Chorophyll
Sep 2012
#99
And hopefully those of us in the private sector will be as highly paid, too, right?
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#236
That was already said. That's what I responded to. It's not just about YOU, is it? It's about the
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#280
Cut the administration. Cut the jobs in administration. Cut the pay of administrators.
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#13
You're the 2nd person to suggest firing people so you can get a pay raise.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#237
I don't think you really understand what this is all about. I'm judging only by your comments
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#248
Yes there is lots of money elsewhere in the budget.. Millions of it has been paid by Rahm to outside
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#263
Break the parking meter contract, tax financial transactions, etc. There's always money available..
Scuba
Sep 2012
#15
breaking the parking meter contract=huge damages in a lawsuit. at least the billion they were paid
rdking647
Sep 2012
#23
You've fallen for bullshit scare tactics. The parking meter contract was rigged and can be broken..
Scuba
Sep 2012
#28
The parking meter contract was (allegedly) rigged, and therefore not legal. See the dif?
Scuba
Sep 2012
#106
Not really. Any malfeasance during the contracting and a judge will throw it out.
Scuba
Sep 2012
#214
A) That's BS there is so much tax money floating around Chicago, the machine hires temp workers
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#16
I would say breaking the promise of a raise is "screwing" and "paying them less than promised"....
Scuba
Sep 2012
#72
Cut the Chicago Police Department (being used as Rahm's 'enforcers' and
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#20
If the Chicago PD is so great, then why is the murder rate so high????? Q.E.D. - n/t
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#30
Maybe he's a devotee of Michelle Rhee and her ilk. No matter, he's now
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#275
So you don't like teachers? Maybe it's because NCLB is a failure. Bush's NCLB is one of
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#131
If it's really ONLY about money, shouldn't this question be, "Why doesn't money make a difference?"
patrice
Sep 2012
#161
I am glad there is a real discussion about not holding teachers accountable for ineducable children
AngryAmish
Sep 2012
#61
Each teacher ends up with ALL of the mistakes with each student that preceded him/her. It's not
patrice
Sep 2012
#98
You never know who ate the lead paint, who got an STD from mommy's boyfriend
AngryAmish
Sep 2012
#105
Parents aren't helping much either. The most common sense of what good curriculum is
patrice
Sep 2012
#114
The machine pays NO attention to anything but money, so that's the TOOL that teachers use for more
patrice
Sep 2012
#193
I suspect this is your answer to most labor issues. "fire that teachers." You are supporting
Vincardog
Sep 2012
#91
First of all, you don't know for a fact that Chicago's tax rate is astronomical.
ancianita
Sep 2012
#56
Do you have some numbers on that Charter School claim? You do realize that while
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#130
How about this. How about taking all those millions of dollars Rahm is pouring into Private
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#265
Sometimes individuals do have questions. It's not all about political ideologies. People can just be
patrice
Sep 2012
#62
I too wonder about that, because there's no greater threat than validly informed understanding.
patrice
Sep 2012
#304
If you want us to regard that as anything more than just your opinion, you should support it with
patrice
Sep 2012
#73
If you're against defending drone strikes, be prepared for an awkward moment at the ballot box.
alp227
Sep 2012
#283
That statement presumes an absolutely God-like knowledge & understanding of ALL of the factors.
patrice
Sep 2012
#305
Some people are so obsessed with authority that everything is explained in terms of that, rather
patrice
Sep 2012
#306
Yes! Kids are about a whole lot more stuff than just $$$!! So what is this about?
patrice
Sep 2012
#84
Unfortunately, the school year is not actually based on the election cycle. nt
Chorophyll
Sep 2012
#100
Wrong, this is exactly the right time for them to speak out. Where did this idea that the people
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#267
Correction, anti-Union sentiment is unpopular with Democrats everywhere, not necessarily
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#198
Shocking discovery - take it back to Mayor Rahmney. He's not too popular here, either.
leveymg
Sep 2012
#207
One reason it could be "crap" is that people do not understand that teachers have very little power
patrice
Sep 2012
#108
I taught high school for 8 years, mostly middle-&-upper-middle. I also still personally know
patrice
Sep 2012
#142
Most of our culture has a bad habit of, "It's the other guy/gal!" Teachers don't have that luxury.
patrice
Sep 2012
#182
Rahm has poured millions of funds into Private Corporations, some of them from outside
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#268
The points you make suggest that this might actually be an opportunity for authentic change.nt
patrice
Sep 2012
#121
Oh, I'm naive, but I think teachers could be as well paid as defense contractors' executives and...
CreekDog
Sep 2012
#157
Teachers know that this is about more than money; money is the last means available to them to
patrice
Sep 2012
#173
I wish to goodness that this board would at least have them register, even if they don't tell us.
patrice
Sep 2012
#174
Karen Lewis said straight out last night that the compensation dispute is pretty small
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#178
Emmanuel said it was about the increased hours required for the 2% raise. nt
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#238
I believe it depends on whether the bond initiative is for a capital fund or a general fund.
LanternWaste
Sep 2012
#192
There are other options. My favorite: surcharge tax on hot air and RW talking points.
leveymg
Sep 2012
#205
I don't recommend the entire package, just that there are parts of a solution suggested within.
leveymg
Sep 2012
#225
"parents of Chicago schoolchildren were almost three times more likely to back the unions
Zorra
Sep 2012
#206
you can bet that if they needed a new football stadium, they would easily find the money
spanone
Sep 2012
#226
chicago isn't alone, public education could use some help in phiily or new york or even london
Agony
Sep 2012
#251
The DU answer will be to raise taxes on the other guy to pay for it
taught_me_patience
Sep 2012
#302