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Hortensis

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54. Boy, is that a good description! Last night historian Jon Meacham,
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 08:08 AM
Jul 2020

discussing racism, said Trump is not an aberration in the broad sweep of American history but the fullest manifestation of forces that we have to do everything we can to make aberrant. He's very much in "the Wallace tradition," who was in the Strom Thurmond tradition, etc., right on back. A poll the segment started with said 32% approve Strom Trump while 67% disapprove.

In the South, you recognized these forces becoming dangerously resurgent. Fearful racists vote.

Out in Los Angeles, diversity is so normal that nothing but white people in any public place would have a weird, "what's wrong with this picture" look that would grab attention in itself. Different. And with that relative comfort, those determinedly voting fear and hostility against other people not so evident and placidly not bothering to vote too common.

Btw, regarding speaking in company, when we moved to GA, the same scurrilous political story was being told at parties in both places -- about Hillary and Bill decorating the WH Christmas tree with condoms. The difference was that in CA it was enjoyed out in a shadowy corner of a back yard where people went to smoke and share whatever else needed privacy from the big group, while in GA the group was happily endorsing the lie in the middle of a large, bright dining room while other guests passed on both sides.

My view on the Lincoln Project [View all] Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2020 OP
They will continue to purge the R party of trumpists. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #1
This is the impression I got from their Town Hall yesterday. Mike 03 Jul 2020 #2
You are spot on. They are writing the book on how to do get rid of a bad man. Cousin Dupree Jul 2020 #6
I attended the town hall yesterday and I agree with you. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #8
I hope you're right. Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2020 #4
Trump was suppose to bring it all home pwb Jul 2020 #3
It's not over yet. Not until Biden is in power will we be safe(r) SoonerPride Jul 2020 #10
There will always be a conservative opposition octoberlib Jul 2020 #5
They definitely are. They're trying to flip the senate for Dems as well. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #11
I think they're more concerned with the fascist past & present than with the racist past, BComplex Jul 2020 #26
They're worried about everything we are worried about. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #28
Fully agree. We need to use them, not fund them. we can do it Jul 2020 #7
Thanks. In my opinion Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2020 #12
I've donated and will continue to do so. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #23
These people are anti-Trump CONSERVATIVES. I'm sorry Hortensis Jul 2020 #9
Steve Schmitt was Sarah Palin's WhiteTara Jul 2020 #16
Thank you for saying it better than I could n/t Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2020 #18
Yes, Republican-aligned operatives almost all went way too far, Hortensis Jul 2020 #32
I'm sorry to say that yes, I knew WhiteTara Jul 2020 #39
Your childhood didn't allow illusions about what people Hortensis Jul 2020 #42
Joe Scarborough is not a moderate melman Jul 2020 #40
OK: THERE IS NO POLITICAL ORIENTATION OF "MODERATE." Hortensis Jul 2020 #46
I had misgivings in the 1980s because I've lived in the Deep South all my life misanthrope Jul 2020 #52
Boy, is that a good description! Last night historian Jon Meacham, Hortensis Jul 2020 #54
This! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #20
Half of the country isn't truly conservative. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #31
Conservative by PERSONALITY, which is huge. Hortensis Jul 2020 #41
They are committed to taking out DeSantis. denem Jul 2020 #13
Rubin/Lincoln: "If you supported Trump, your political career should end." Hortensis Jul 2020 #24
All the 'Lincoln Party' has to do denem Jul 2020 #27
AND who went along with fox propaganda and all the conspiracy theories that this republican BComplex Jul 2020 #29
It won't take that long but that's ok Midnightwalk Jul 2020 #14
Yep, I'll take their help now as well Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2020 #17
I only agree with Point 1. I think there will be an internal Civil War within the GOP after Trump is OnDoutside Jul 2020 #15
Maybe not exactly internal Midnightwalk Jul 2020 #25
Howe, yes, but most of the LP founders weren't. Schmidt, Wilson, Galen etc are old school Reps. OnDoutside Jul 2020 #44
I don't think of them as friends. FM123 Jul 2020 #19
some of them, let's hope, will come to see that the "pre-Trump version" was exactly what led their CTyankee Jul 2020 #35
I doubt Biden will be seeking a second term. aikoaiko Jul 2020 #21
I don't either, aikoaiko. In fact, I think he may resign before his term is up to insure that we at BComplex Jul 2020 #33
IDK - things won't change nearly that quick Cosmocat Jul 2020 #22
They're republicans Yeehah Jul 2020 #30
The enemy of my enemy is my friend is a dangerous way to think. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #34
Agree KatyMan Jul 2020 #36
America is founded upon honest and respectful debate among differing points of view Binkie The Clown Jul 2020 #37
I don't care StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #38
That, I think, is the point of the OP. Caliman73 Jul 2020 #47
Frame this as a victory. THE GOP IS DIVIDED!!! backscatter712 Jul 2020 #43
Best case scenario they help blow up that piece of shit death Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #45
Their fate will be similar to the Canadian Progressive Conservative party circa 1993. roamer65 Jul 2020 #48
We should accept any help we get to defeat trump. That should be the #1 priority of all Americans... George II Jul 2020 #49
Sheesh people, Biden isn't elected yet. These are sane Republicans trying to help get him elected. onetexan Jul 2020 #50
We have a 2 party state. A more sane GOP is not a bad thing. BrightKnight Jul 2020 #51
If they become more sane. Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2020 #53
If people want to send money to the guy who wrote a defense of why he said he himself WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #55
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